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Ace Transmuter posted:Provocative stuff, truly it's a game that presents its tepid, mealy takes as cinematically and bombastically as possible and mostly-successfully bluffs the average player into thinking they're profundities, I'll give it that
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Rand Brittain posted:I mean, the second Dark Souls game Miyazaki worked on was, itself, an elaborate plea to let Dark Souls die and quit making sequels. Funnily enough, it actually wasn't. People with strong opinions on Souls games like to slam DS2 for being the B-Team game and that's because Miyazaki handed it off to another team. He was actually working on Bloodborne at the time. So, perhaps there were people languishing in the poison swamp factory. Perhaps they needed more antidotes. Not Hidetaka Miyazaki, he just built different.
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The Chairman posted:it's a game that presents its tepid, mealy takes as cinematically and bombastically as possible and mostly-successfully bluffs the average player into thinking they're profundities, I'll give it that I just enjoyed the cinematics and bombastics since I am not about to go look for deep meaning in a shooter 
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Oxxidation posted:they’re referring to dark souls 3 Oh. Yeah huh. Well, he definitely reaffirmed his love for poison swamps in Elden Ring, the sequel to DS2. OddObserver posted:I just enjoyed the cinematics and bombastics since I am not about to go look for deep meaning in a shooter Good, because Bioshock Infinite does not deserve it. It's also a very mid shooter but some people were into it. The rail grinding bits were decent.
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Runa posted:The Rosencrantz and Guildenstern reading is very clever though, much more than Bioshock Infinite deserves, so kudos to that. I mean, someone must have at least been a fan of the play/film, because while the coin flip might have been unintentional on its own, the coin flip and the Luteces playing badminton in the background later on, paired with all their meandering Greek Chorus dialogue? But, I'm a huge fan of it, myself, so maybe I'm just eager to see references to it wherever I can. And, I mean, Bioshock is a pretty limited formula, like, even good games based on it (like the Prey reboot and literally nothing else) end up feeling like the same thing in a slightly different location, with Mad Libs-style replacements of some key words. If not fatigue, someone might have just been critical of the sheer pointlessness of the formulaic sequels. Also the one good thing I will say about Bioshock Infinite is that the genre-shifted licensed songs were actually really cool and are the one thing from the game that have stuck with me.
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honestly I can’t wait to see what the swamp is going to be in the elden ring expansion. maybe it will finally inflict the sleep status effect?
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Probably the last thing I will say about G Gundam Cross Rays, if you have seen any of the series it covers you might want to give it a try. It is really funny watching the devs have to cram 50 episodes of a Gundam series into 9 or less maps. If you haven’t seen the series in question it just doesn’t really make a ton of sense, but if you have you can almost feel the frustration of the writer remembering there are like 4 characters they haven’t introduced yet because they were in episodes of the show that aren’t explicitly covered in the maps they chose and they want to send it home in 10 min or less of dialogue. Edit: Also them including the Lacus Clyne Zaku from Seed Destiny and all its animations rule. TheMightyBoops fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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playing through etrian in shorts burts, they should totally do a dungeon meshi etrian
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i would love for the anime to be popular enough that a non-mobile dungeon meshi game materializes. you could make it anything and i'll play it
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Honest Thief posted:playing through etrian in shorts burts, they should totally do a dungeon meshi etrian if you jsut name everyone after the cast of meshi you can have one already
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Looper posted:i would love for the anime to be popular enough that a non-mobile dungeon meshi game materializes. you could make it anything and i'll play it seems like it would be hard to translate to a videogame since outside of the cooking gimmick and the focus on believable ecosystems its fairly generic fantasy
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Endorph posted:if you jsut name everyone after the cast of meshi you can have one already not enough a focus on eating, although dragons dogma 2 does a bit more babypolis posted:seems like it would be hard to translate to a videogame since outside of the cooking gimmick and the focus on believable ecosystems its fairly generic fantasy copy the ff15 camp mechanic
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 you can always try nippon ichi's monster menu the scavenger's cookbook
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Hey, in Eiyuden Chronicles, does anyone know if the tool shop in Athrabalt changes inventory at some point or something? I keep trying and they won't give up their Steamed Bread recipe, and the only other time that's happened was with the rare items in Eltisweiss, where the items won't ever show up until later in the game when the shop inventory changes.
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He doesn't live in a capitalist society Edit: they've already got dungeon cooking games....I don't think any of them are particularly good though. Hopefully Dungeon Meshi's success allows one with a budget. Also, been eyeing Sand Land, and an anime for it came out that looks neat (watched the first EP). But I keep hearing the game is a retelling of the anime/manga. Can someone elaborate on that? Looks like it has the prince, old guy and sheriff together but is everything else the same or is it just a really similar story? Is it worth watching the anime if I plan on playing the game? Morpheus fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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EclecticTastes posted:Hey, in Eiyuden Chronicles, does anyone know if the tool shop in Athrabalt changes inventory at some point or something? I keep trying and they won't give up their Steamed Bread recipe, and the only other time that's happened was with the rare items in Eltisweiss, where the items won't ever show up until later in the game when the shop inventory changes. I've got a clear file and it sells three types of healing herbs, revival medicine, paralysis cure, and return runeshards. Which, IIRC, is what it had first time, so I'm going to guess it doesn't change inventory. Might still be a case of event flags, though.
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EclecticTastes posted:I mean, someone must have at least been a fan of the play/film, because while the coin flip might have been unintentional on its own, the coin flip and the Luteces playing badminton in the background later on, paired with all their meandering Greek Chorus dialogue? But, I'm a huge fan of it, myself, so maybe I'm just eager to see references to it wherever I can. And, I mean, Bioshock is a pretty limited formula, like, even good games based on it (like the Prey reboot and literally nothing else) end up feeling like the same thing in a slightly different location, with Mad Libs-style replacements of some key words. If not fatigue, someone might have just been critical of the sheer pointlessness of the formulaic sequels. i would not call prey based on bioshock in any way other than the surface level idea of a game set in a spooky run down technofuture place. bioshock is barely even based on system shock, which is where prey's design dna actually comes from. the reason bioshock sucks, is because it has no interest in doing anything interesting with the system shock level structure, it's a much less reactive or dynamic game and it didn't try to reform system shock 2's rpg ideas into something that works the way prey did so at its best it's an okay xbox shooter with a kind of neat level structure. i agree you can't do anything interesting anymore with bioshock's premise but i agree because bioshock has absolutely zero will to experiment with the mechanics and ideas of the games it's tentatively built off of. there's no reason not to make more games like system shock outside of development costs. it's a game structure you can freely experiment with and iterate on. bioshock being dead, is fine, because bioshock was not building to much of anything
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also yeah knowing the dev circumstances around bioshock infinite is not a social media thing that is. literally just that ken levine is very open about being an ultra perfectionist. he clearly wants to operate like some kind of gaming hitchcock so he copied the part where hitchcock was an ultra perfectionist and doesn't understand how this approach that was trying for the creation of film is literally untenable for making a video game. bioshock infinite took an absurd amount of time to make because ken levine literally can't look at materials for a game that are still being worked on and not judge them on the same level as something that's supposed to be fully finished and polished up.
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Looper posted:i would love for the anime to be popular enough that a non-mobile dungeon meshi game materializes. you could make it anything and i'll play it There's a darkest dungeon mod https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3130060537
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The encounter with various flavors of "hellhounde" was a pretty noticeable difficulty spike in Lost Eidolons. The rotating weaknesses aren't going to necessarily be easy to pierce, and they don't give you terrain that makes it easy to exploit them being multi-square enemies. Still, I got the tutorial about class changing afterwards, so I imagine it is aimed at being a bit of a wake-up call. I've played a dozen or so hours of Eiyuden: Hundred Heroes, and it's charming, but also quite sloggy. I'm autobattling almost every fight, since healing items or healing magic are extremely affordable at this point in the game. I don't really mind if my party doesn't use herbs efficiently, since they are making more money that they consume. I'm really wishing for the quality of life you got emulating Suikoden in a format that would let you speed things up 4x or 8x times normal. Still, as long as I treat it as a podcast game outside of dialogue, Eiyuden is a pretty decent time. The frustration of fights taking a tediously long time made getting ahead of the XP curve to speed things up quite satisfying. A bit of fun gamefaqs-era nostalgia in digging up the Bounty Hill exploit after that first duel.
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Honest Thief posted:not enough a focus on eating, although dragons dogma 2 does a bit more Etrian Untold 2 has a whole restaurant you collect recipes and ingredients for and everything! Dragon's Dogma 2 does virtually nothing with food beyond having funny real FMVs of meat cooking, of which there's like three videos because there's almost no food variety.
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Potato Flowers in Full Bloom is the Dungeon Meshiest videogame because it’s a grounded dungeon crawler that puts thought into the economics of dungeon crawling and how the people involved make a living.
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Morpheus posted:Also, been eyeing Sand Land, and an anime for it came out that looks neat (watched the first EP). But I keep hearing the game is a retelling of the anime/manga. Can someone elaborate on that? Looks like it has the prince, old guy and sheriff together but is everything else the same or is it just a really similar story? Is it worth watching the anime if I plan on playing the game? It’s the same story retold as an open world action RPG, with all the changes in presentation, pacing, and length that implies. Same protagonists, but a bigger supporting cast. The original is a one volume manga. The anime show is itself a longer cut of an earlier movie adaptation, with a wholly new arc afterwards (imo it’s worse, and the whole premise kind of undermines what I liked about the setting, but it’s not awful). The game features both arcs. I’d love to be playing it right now, but I can’t afford to be buying full price games atm.
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Sandland the game at least changes things up significantly from the manga. It introduces a Bulma-like character who is there from basically the start and pretty notably changes the dynamic of the cast.
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In the show she’s introduced in the new arc, and is pivotal to it.
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Rand Brittain posted:I mean, the second Dark Souls game Miyazaki worked on was, itself, an elaborate plea to let Dark Souls die and quit making sequels. The real question is, was the ending of the third Danganronpa game a love letter to the fandom, or hate mail?
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Quackles posted:The real question is, was the ending of the third Danganronpa game a love letter to the fandom, or hate mail? Didn't Kodaka leave Spike Chunsoft after DRV3? It seems more like the primary author's attempt to definitively end the series before it could be taken up by another writer who might not match his vision of what it was supposed to be. Which is why the ending is about how any long-running series inevitably accumulates too many entries and gradually drifts away from its original central ideas, and therefore should eventually be given a proper and permanent end.
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Quackles posted:The real question is, was the ending of the third Danganronpa game a love letter to the fandom, or hate mail? I don't think you can look at the end of that trial and basically everything afterwards and conclude it's "hate mail"
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Ibram Gaunt posted:V3's ending is perfect.
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Quackles posted:The real question is, was the ending of the third Danganronpa game a love letter to the fandom, or hate mail?
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yeah the only definitive sentiment of v3's ending, is that there doesn't need to be more danganronpa. it's not saying anything negative about the fact that people liked danganronpa just that the series was already spinning out of control and it'd be best to stop here while they still had an okay grasp of what was fun about it.
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'was it a love letter or hate mail.' come on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNxBgTCQjP0 heres a cool fanmade v3 music video
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the most negative thing you could read into danganronpa v3 is that it visibly thinks the Danganronpa Lore that had built up was kind of unnecessary and not meaningfully connected to why people liked it. but it doesn't actively poo poo on it it just, detaches itself from it
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So, I bought Reverse Collapse: Code Name Bakery since people are saying interesting stuff about it on RPG thread. Immediately texted a tactics RPG buddy, told them "hey, you like fiery emblems. How about a game made by people whose favorite level in Path of Radiance was the stealth mission in prison." Gonna be kinda fun contrasting this with the friction points of Lost Eidolons, I think
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The Colonel posted:yeah the only definitive sentiment of v3's ending, is that there doesn't need to be more danganronpa. it's not saying anything negative about the fact that people liked danganronpa just that the series was already spinning out of control and it'd be best to stop here while they still had an okay grasp of what was fun about it. The Colonel posted:the most negative thing you could read into danganronpa v3 is that it visibly thinks the Danganronpa Lore that had built up was kind of unnecessary and not meaningfully connected to why people liked it. but it doesn't actively poo poo on it it just, detaches itself from it
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i hope some of those random korean danganronpa fangames get tl'd sometime some of them have good char designs love puzzle man
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