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Kyrosiris posted:Hilariously given the current discussion, I got Jingliu off the first-of-the-month passes. I got e2 Bailu instead of JL 
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Eej posted:Luocha's time will come again when Mihoyo has decided that purging is the next meta thing for 3.0 and there'll be a pile of poo poo you have to purge and you either have to use Luocha or whatever new unit they're pushing to consistently remove debuffs. Also, zero cycling and low cycling takes a level of relic investment that most people just don't have. Either you get extremely lucky with your relic drops, or you're a whale. But you're not doing Welt sustain or zero cycling with 135 speed as your average on most characters.
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I’m skipping Robin even though I love her design and bard/idol type characters. I don’t have room for anything that isn’t going to be a “5* Tingyun with an AOE energy charge” level of powercreep for ultimates after the universally useful in any team supports like Ruan Mei’s break or Sparkle’s SP generation.
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facepalmolive posted:- Bronya/Jingliu (ok realtalk: I just got Jingliu off the current banner and I must be playing her wrong, because I expected wtfbusted but she only feels mildly strong; certainly feels weaker than my DoT team) she's probably not as good as acheron but i assume you didn't overcap her crit rate right?
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Bad Video Games posted:(Loucha) can go on any team, and you never have to worry about surviving. People keep saying this but, until Aventurine, I ran with him on one side and Fu Xuan on the other for MoC. The Loucha side would often have survival problems and the FX side pretty much never did. I like my Loucha but purely as a sustain, I think he's been outclassed by FX for a while now and now also by Aventurine.
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facepalmolive posted:- Bronya/Jingliu (ok realtalk: I just got Jingliu off the current banner and I must be playing her wrong, because I expected wtfbusted but she only feels mildly strong; certainly feels weaker than my DoT team) Make sure to only use her ult when she's in her buffed state. Also, what are the stats on yours?
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Genovera posted:Make sure to only use her ult when she's in her buffed state. Also, what are the stats on yours? This is a big thing that could easily trip people up if they’re not paying attention to her mechanics. Not only is her ult going to deal drastically more in Sicko Mode, it also extends it by an additional turn which is a big boost to her damage.
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May 2, 2024 06:13
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facepalmolive posted:- Monoquant So you haven’t done this?
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Does Herta want ATK or SPD boots?
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atks usually better for pure fiction i feel like with how often she activates her followup
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Yeah I think most of the time I'm gonna pair her with someone else who can trigger her FUAs, so ATK seems good. Thanks
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I use Speed boots on her. In 4 cycles (continuous in PF, you don't get to cheat and reset a cycle between waves like MoC): 110 spd: 6 actions 128 spd: 7 actions 146 spd: 8 actions 164 spd: 9 actions A pair of boots and some substats are enough to push you to getting an extra whole turn on Herta which means more energy and more damage. If your Herta is already clearing waves you don't need ATK boots because that's overkill. You'd just want SPD so you get another turn to nuke with her which can then lead to another follow up.
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Hmm I guess I can test for both, I have too many Grand Duke pieces anyway. Currently though I'm trying to jury rig a max points clear on the second side with Ratio/Kafka/Herta/RM, so for this specifically I feel I might want ATK to kill the elites besides Sam ASAP, but we'll see.
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43% atk on Herta isn't gonna be killing elites those things have huge HP. You're better off just going for the 3 FUAs = proc and maximizing those.
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https://twitter.com/hxg_diluc/status/1785955861611106595?t=6EKmb6FGf6RdokifUWBrjQ So apparently someone collected statistics for 15 million rolls and discovered the gacha isn't actually 50/50, but slightly weighted in the player's favor, at 56.4/43.6 (lightcones are 78.1/21.9). Their theory is that the limited character gets included in the standard character pool, so even when you lose you still have a 1/8 chance of getting them anyway.
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I can't believe I've lost 78/22 twice
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CandyCrazy posted:https://twitter.com/hxg_diluc/status/1785955861611106595?t=6EKmb6FGf6RdokifUWBrjQ This just makes me feel more like poo poo because I consistently fail the 50-50.
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Eej posted:I can't believe I've lost 78/22 twice Once for me. I had to go to double pity for Argenti’s cone! Selenephos posted:This just makes me feel more like poo poo because I consistently fail the 50-50. Same. I've lost the last 3 straight. I honestly can't remember the last one I did win. It might have been Argenti.
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Genovera posted:Make sure to only use her ult when she's in her buffed state. Also, what are the stats on yours?  https://www.hsr-showcase.com/u/604194004 I just threw together my next best quantum pieces so not everything's at +15 yet, so there's that. Like, I know there's a lot more room to grow here but I'm just wondering if I'm also doing something fundamentally wrong. I did figure out the "only ult while she's in moon form" thing, but anything else I should know? She's definitely not crit capped but I do wonder if 30% is on the low side for her to feel "consistent". Since she already gets so much extra atk from her moon form, should I maybe consider spd boots? It feels pretty bad to use Bronya's skill to action forward her when she's outside moon state, but I still do it anyway. I do hold Bronya ult until she's in moon state. I only just got Bronya fairly recently (right before Sparkle, in fact, because that's how the gacha crumbles  ) so I'm still getting used to Bronya brain.I've put my Bronya in my profile above, but I'm basically doing fast Bronya and weaving autos in between. The 4pc wind is more of an experiment, and I don't have the effect res to trigger 2pc Keel -- they just happened to be my best spd/cdmg% pieces. Thanks for everyone's help so far! Eej posted:Also what 0 cyclers don't tell you is how often they reset runs because of bad rng and how many takes they have to do to get a 0 cycle complete. 2 solid Sustains is still a good rule of thumb, people who are asking about what to roll are not doing bleeding edge 0 cycle strats. I have watched some 0 cyclers who explain their thought processes, and I'm aware many of them are layers upon layers of RNG (like x and y must get hit twice to generate z energy for ult). This is on top of very meticulous speed and energy tuning. None of which I have the patience for. Don't get me wrong, Luocha has been a staple on my team, and yeah, is so drat comfortable that he gives me breathing room to focus on the rest of my team. On his side, I never have to think about saving skill points because I need to heal. But when I'm barely not making timers and I want to eke just a little more out of my team, well Luocha just ain't it, yknow? padijun posted:So you haven’t done this? I've definitely brute-forced floor 11/12 before (like... over 2 MoCs ago), like with all the wrong elements and everything. But recent levels have gotten grindier so I don't know if you can get away with it anymore. I do throw mono quant at things sometimes in a desperation move, but Qingque can be... frustrating at times so it's usually not my first choice anymore if I already have more on-element options. Sparkle was an absolute game-changer for her though. I have not tried with Jingliu because I'm bad on her (see above), but hey everyone says she's broken enough to brute-force anything with her, so  .
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Selenephos posted:This just makes me feel more like poo poo because I consistently fail the 50-50. You're beating the odds, a real go-getter.
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facepalmolive posted:
Jingliu definitely wants SPD boots, you should be able to get her to about 2700 Atk and 134+ speed with those which is more than enough. I find with that you should be doing 100-150k per attack in Moon state which is top tier damage.
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A little late to the party, but in regards to Yanqing, can he put out good numbers? Absolutely. Here's what he can do against the latest Echo of War:   But this is an E5S2 Yanqing, with very good relics, with an E6S1 Ruan Mei, E2S1 Sparkle and E6S1 Aventurine. And for reference, this is an E1S1 Jingliu, with way worse relics, in the same team, with the same buffs and debuffs, fighting the same enemy, hitting only one target:    So while he's more than up for the task, I can't really recommend farming up relics and all the mats needed to get to this point, when you could just invest in a limited 5* instead and get way more bang for your buck.
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Stupid question time. Guaranteed crit or more crit damage? With all of Ratio's bonuses, he tops out at around 160 crit damage and overcaps his crit rate. Or I can give him over 220 crit damage as a ceiling, but his crit rate is only around 80.
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Ruby Prism posted:A little late to the party, but in regards to Yanqing, can he put out good numbers? Absolutely. Here's what he can do against the latest Echo of War: I mean the main takeaway I'm getting is that Jingliu is an easy skip now if you lost 50/50 to Yanqing and are saving for the slew of limited banners coming in the next two patches.
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Bad Video Games posted:Stupid question time. You can just check fribbles and see which build does more damage. No one in this thread can give you an accurate answer.
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I don't know what fribbles is. Got a link?
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Bad Video Games posted:Stupid question time. Just multiply the two together to find the average. Would you rather have 100% of 160 = 160. Or 80% of 220 = 176. Further consideration will depend purely on things like, would 2 of the 220 crit damage hits kill a boss, which would take 3 of the 160 hits. How much overkill. If the attack itself has multiple hits, it will balance out the variance etc etc
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shrach posted:Just multiply the two together to find the average. Would you rather have 100% of 160 = 160. Or 80% of 220 = 176. Further consideration will depend purely on things like, would 2 of the 220 crit damage hits kill a boss, which would take 3 of the 160 hits. How much overkill. If the attack itself has multiple hits, it will balance out the variance etc etc That makes sense. Punching in the actual numbers, he averages 156 crit damage with the lower crit rate vs. 184 with the guaranteed crit. I even forgot to add the 12-24% from the 4pc set. It's funnier this way because now Aventurine has 94/215 crit. 
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Worth blowing all my Tears for   And yeah I found better success using SPD boots on Herta
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Bad Video Games posted:I don't know what fribbles is. Got a link? https://fribbels.github.io/hsr-optimizer I posted this earlier but in addition to a relic organizer and scorer it also lets you run your own damage calcs, even to the point of setting up the team, light ones and eidolons. I'm mildly obsessed.
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Ruby Prism posted:A little late to the party, but in regards to Yanqing, can he put out good numbers? Absolutely. Here's what he can do against the latest Echo of War: I am not sure if people with multiple E6 banner 5*s are representative of the average person's team strength. Pain of Mind fucked around with this message at 15:32 on May 2, 2024 |
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GoodluckJonathan posted:https://fribbels.github.io/hsr-optimizer Thanks! I'll check it out tonight when I have time.
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Personally, I have grown weary of thinking and entrusted all of my relic decisions to the machine.
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Pain of Mind posted:I am not sure if people with multiple E6 banner 5*s are representative of the average person's team strength. The whole conversation is if you have Yanqing and Aventurine, but you don't have Jingliu, then Yanqing is usable in the current MoC. If you're struggling in the current MoC 12 and the above is true, build Yanqing. Otherwise, he can continue to collect dust.
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I sometimes break out Geppy/Jingliu/Pela/YQ for ice-weak mocs and remembrance runs. It's a fun team.
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- You should try to get to 50% Crit Rate, so her Enhanced mode guarantees all crits at 100% - You should run the Glacial set for her relics, not the Quantum set. Quantum set only out-damages Glacial when the enemy has a Quantum weakness - You're running your JL very different from how I run mine (seems like you're doing slow JL + Hyperspeed Bronya). I personally run 135 SPD JL and 134 SPD Bronya, so that JL always gets to go twice in a row, but Hyperspeed Bronya can work too theoretically (I think Bronya has to be 160+ SPD for it to work and yours shows at 152, but maybe you have another support character that gives a teamwide speed buff during batttle?) - I use JL's sig LC, but I get if you don't want to get it. I think the Aeon LC's effectiveness depends on if you're weakness breaking with JL often or not. Off-element I think it's much worse.
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Eej posted:I mean the main takeaway I'm getting is that Jingliu is an easy skip now if you lost 50/50 to Yanqing and are saving for the slew of limited banners coming in the next two patches. A Jingliu with considerably worse relics than Yanqing will perform about the same as he does... against a single target. Remember that Jingliu's splash damage isn't even being added up here. Pain of Mind posted:I am not sure if people with multiple E6 banner 5*s are representative of the average person's team strength. Oh for sure. It's more to illustrate that even with absolutely insane supports, his damage is just good. Not superb. Acceptable for that level of investment at best. Ruby Prism fucked around with this message at 16:24 on May 2, 2024 |
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Ruby Prism posted:A Jingliu with considerably worse relics than Yanqing will perform about the same as he does... against a single target. Remember that Jingliu's splash damage isn't even being added up here. I misread it, I was just skimming the thread and thought it was saying how good he is now. My fault for poor reading comprehension, carry on.
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I hate stamina. Just let me just level grind.
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Sanzuo posted:I hate stamina. Just let me just level grind. Play a MMO
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