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Get that VTEC while it’s still here, Pilots don’t have it anymore.
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The Sienna is in fact pretty mediocre with the single exception being its mileage which is so good that it's very much worth taking the trade offs depending on your values. Frankly though, some of it is just embarrassing. Like.. if you put the rear seats down they (violently) bounce up and down while you drive. You can't even get a model in Canada that comes with acoustic glass when everyone else has it stock, and they cheaped out so much on all sound deadening in general it's miserable to drive on the highway which is where a van is supposed to be king. Oh, and the stock speakers? Wowza Again not that it's in any way a BAD vehicle but it absolutely has not kept pace when it comes to refinement and comfort.
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I have no idea if my Volt has an AM radio. Probably does I guess.
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moxieman posted:New cars all suck rant: My parent's 22 Odyssey drives great. But if it were me, I'd still be looking at a Sienna for the mileage - their Odyssey is doing cylinder deactivation on the freeway to get 27 mpg, Sienna is going to do better than that in-town and highway. They have the leather captain's chairs and removing them to clear the second row is a serious job, they're like 60-70 lbs each and bulky as hell.. compared to a friend's Pacifica which is doing similar mileage/features and has stow-and-go the seating design is archaic.
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The Pacifica is such a nice van, it's too bad it's made by Chrysler.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:The Pacifica is such a nice van, it's too bad it's made by Chrysler. Famously the PHEV has THE MOST complaints on consumer reports
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rifles posted:My parent's 22 Odyssey drives great. But if it were me, I'd still be looking at a Sienna for the mileage - their Odyssey is doing cylinder deactivation on the freeway to get 27 mpg, Sienna is going to do better than that in-town and highway. They have the leather captain's chairs and removing them to clear the second row is a serious job, they're like 60-70 lbs each and bulky as hell.. compared to a friend's Pacifica which is doing similar mileage/features and has stow-and-go the seating design is archaic. 27mpg is a lot better than our current Sienna and I’m buying a van primarily to haul kids around so taking the middle seats out will rarely or never happen. The Honda also has the captains chairs that can slide side to side in the middle row which is more useful than stow and go for our use cases. While the Pacifica seems to have a nice feature set it also has a dial gear selector. And is made by Chrysler as previously mentioned.
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I've read on Pacifica owners forums that the PHEV model will basically never use the battery when it gets below 50.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I've read on Pacifica owners forums that the PHEV model will basically never use the battery when it gets below 50. ![]()
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I've read on Pacifica owners forums that the PHEV model will basically never use the battery when it gets below 50. Is this because there's no heat pump or resistive heat so it has to run the engine in order to generate cabin heat, or something else to do with charging?
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I've read on Pacifica owners forums that the PHEV model will basically never use the battery when it gets below 50. Ok I'm going to out myself here... I'm a Pacifica PHEV owner That's not remotely true unless it's with the pre-2020 refresh models. I live in a very cold city and it does have to tend the battery with the motor a bit in temps significantly below freezing. For a very short commute that could make it "hybrid like" but I did the majority of my KMs in the winter EV only. I've never seen the motor kick on to help out above freezing temps. I bought the thing while waiting for a Sienna because the resale of everything has been so high and figured I'd just sell it. Then realized I wasn't willing to let it go for a Sienna, at least not while it's under warranty. It's way nicer than the Sienna in every measurable way except for possible massive failure but that poo poo only happens to other people who probably had it coming. No joke though I keep Sienna orders in place in case it wrongs me at some point.
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Subaru is finally bringing the manual WRX wagon to North America! *
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I've read on Pacifica owners forums that the PHEV model will basically never use the battery when it gets below 50. Other folks are reading this as “below fifty degrees F,” but I’m reading it as “below 50% battery charge. Either way, the Pacifica/Caravan is one of the few things Chrysler has done well that basically everyone agrees on. It’s the go-to recommendation for vans for a large swath of van buyers. My buddy had to replace his caravan when his wife hit a deer and went with a Pacifica. The old one was a mobile palace, and the new one is too. Chrysler seems to know that this is where their bread is buttered, so they actually manufacture it well. His 9 year old Carvan didn’t have squeaks or rattles, didn’t have random failures of common items, didn’t have *insert Stellantis problem*. It was luxe as hell with the seats up and had a ton of space with the seats down.
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I was thinking 50mph.. like only highway speeds.
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moxieman posted:27mpg is a lot better than our current Sienna and I’m buying a van primarily to haul kids around so taking the middle seats out will rarely or never happen. The Honda also has the captains chairs that can slide side to side in the middle row which is more useful than stow and go for our use cases. Seems a great choice for you! It drives great and I absolutely love the 3.5 and 10 speed combo whenever I get to drive it.
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moxieman posted:New cars all suck rant: Same here, I drove a new Civic not long ago and my first though was it's not all that much better than my Scion and my Scion is paid for so why even bother. I'd like to get a base model Maverick, that would be worth it to me, but the Ford dealers won't stock them because they aren't profitable enough so all they stock is the higher trim levels at over $30k. If i want a base model I'll probably have to order one.
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Counterpoint: sold my 2001 Miata, bought a 2024 Miata, and it's better in every way.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:Counterpoint: sold my 2001 Miata, bought a 2024 a Miata, and it's better in every way. I often think about how my RF is lighter than the Mazdaspeed NB I had almost 20 years ago God bless Mazda
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Eyud posted:God bless Mazda
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Eyud posted:God bless Mazda
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Im trying my best to not go drive or rent a 2024 Miata. I love all the changes they made this go year and I dont need thoughts of that being in my garage tempting me for a 45th time. I just wish they made some interesting loving new colors. Or that anniversary Orange would come back. Ive had too many god drat black Mazdas. Too many Soul reds. Too many silvers.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Same here, I drove a new Civic not long ago and my first though was it's not all that much better than my Scion and my Scion is paid for so why even bother. Sounds like you just need to import a Toyota bB Open Deck https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2021/02/rare-rides-the-ridiculous-toyota-bb-open-deck-from-2002/ Franco Caution posted:Im trying my best to not go drive or rent a 2024 Miata. The next gen Miata is rumoured to be coming out in a couple of years, it's guaranteed they'll send off the ND with some fun coloured special editions. Eyud posted:God bless Mazda Bulk Vanderhuge fucked around with this message at 21:21 on May 4, 2024 |
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Franco Caution posted:Ive had too many god drat black Mazdas. Too many Soul reds. Too many silvers. There cannot be too many soul reds.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:There cannot be too many soul reds. Truth, this is the best car color.
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Franco Caution posted:Im trying my best to not go drive or rent a 2024 Miata. The solution: buy a white Miata and wrap it
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Franco Caution posted:Too many Soul reds. MODS???
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Godzilla07 posted:The solution: buy a white Miata and wrap it Black is a better base color, IMO. It's not as jarring on the door sills and wherever else
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Godzilla07 posted:The solution: buy a white Miata and wrap it I know somebody who did this, was going fine until they got hit by somebody in a parking lot.
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harperdc posted:I know somebody who did this, was going fine until they got hit by somebody in a parking lot. Probably shouldn't have gone for dazzle camo.
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Powershift posted:Probably shouldn't have gone for dazzle camo. Consequences be damned, dazzle camo is always the right choice.
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Eyud posted:God bless Mazda I'm trying to psych myself up to replace my 2005 Kia Spectra with either a new or slightly used (2019 or newer to stay in the fourth-gen) Mazda3, but it's all such a headache that I keep putting it off. Then I read the Mazda subreddit and everyone was talking about how Mazda's paintjobs suck and get chipped super easily ![]() edit: also how the sound sucks unless you get one of the higher trim levels with Bose speakers surf rock fucked around with this message at 02:39 on May 5, 2024 |
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What's the big change for '24 Miatas? I would have loved to get a Fiat 124 but once the Miata got the power bump I just got paralyzed by indecision.
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GD_American posted:What's the big change for '24 Miatas? The physical steering rack and the rear diff tuning. Different lockup on accel vs decel. Continuous fine tuning by Mazda chasing driving perfection.
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will the NE miata be even lighter? Or are the rumored hybrid/electric miata a real thing?
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Rotary Miatas were the perpetual around-the-corner rumor for 2 decades, and EVs are in full retreat right now. I'll believe it when I see it.
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MeruFM posted:will the NE miata be even lighter? Mazda’s been late to the hybrid party, and then the EV party. I think they’d maybe get one more generation of Miata without any hybrid drive before having to add it. An all-EV platform Miata is likely much longer out. Japanese brands have been real slow to EVs, if you haven’t noticed.
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harperdc posted:Mazda’s been late to the hybrid party, and then the EV party. I think they’d maybe get one more generation of Miata without any hybrid drive before having to add it. An all-EV platform Miata is likely much longer out. There's some patents that may or may not ever turn into cars, but they look like they're for a sports car: https://www.thedrive.com/news/44267/mazda-patents-lightweight-hybrid-drivetrain-that-could-be-for-the-ne-miata quote:a relatively small battery pack, a capacitor bank, three electric motors—two of them in-wheel and one mounted to the transmission—a transaxle with a torque tube like an older Corvette, and a regular internal combustion engine. A small battery with capacitor banks to allow a single acceleration shot out of a corner sounds great.
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GD_American posted:Rotary Miatas were the perpetual around-the-corner rumor for 2 decades As if this was ever anything more than pure hopium on the part of rotary true believers. That said I'd be shocked if the NE was EV only, or even if a hybrid of some sort arrived at launch, rather than further into the lifespan.
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BuckyDoneGun posted:As if this was ever anything more than pure hopium on the part of rotary true believers. I dont think a hypothetical NE MX-5 will be anything other than ICE, present tech will just not allow for it to remain light weight or uncomplicated. And I think it will be one of the last ICE cars. As for a rotary MX-5 - I got to drive one a while ago, has a very healthy 13B NA with about 200KwATW and a six speed. Sure it's a combination that goes together incredibly well but it's also so goddamn fast that I get why they also wont do it. Instead of Slow is Fast throw it around that has been MX-5 mainstay for it's life and generations, you got a very different beast that it's really not in the spirit of a small roadster. Dont get me wrong, it was one of the most thrilling and scary cars you could want to drive hard but it's not really an MX-5 if you have to slow down a lot for corners, is it? Restyle the body to look more like a certain late 70s/early 80's Mazda that was about the same size and you DO have the idea for a FE RX7 that Mazda were loving dumb for not doing.
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