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Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023

Xaris posted:

yes but that requires calling

like 3/4th of all the sillycon valley VC unicorn fartapp garbage either has 2 purposes: 1) mommy-replacement apps [someone to come fold your laundry, pay $20 for a $10 roll of laundry quarters subscription, meal kits], and 2) because some shut-in computer diddlers are afraid of interacting with another human ever. albeit the overlap between those is almost a perfect circle. Most all these apps basically exist to arbitrage and extract money by being precisely a middle-man that doesn't require human interaction.

though I think there is something to be said that anxiety is like the one singular defining characteristic and trait of the contemporary western milieu of the zoomers-millennial generation who had their brains destroyed by media, internet, 'irony', and surveillance. it is extremely 'unnatural' (in as much as any behavior is natural, which is to say none) for there to be such widespread overbearing anxiety as there is today -- or rather ahistorical. I don't think there's ever been a society where everyone was so absolutely anxiety-riddled and afraid of each other as there is in the imperial core today.

I think trueanon had a good take on that and how pervasive it is.

I thought it was kinda neat being in a KFC once and seeing a dad and his probably 10-year-old daughter go to get food, and as she instinctively went to the self-service screen, he said "Nope. You're going to converse with an actual human today."

DaysBefore posted:

Lol true a lot of Doordash/Amazon Prime/Uber grocery types can't handle 'hey can I get a cab to address - okay they'll be there soon'

I typically hate going to the supermarket to shop, especially if it's an Aldi where I have to unpack the trolley, then pack it again, then unpack it to bags, then go home and unpack it again. So I started using Ocado again, and the last delivery I was by myself as it arrived and spent 30 minutes talking to the driver on the doorstep about Blake's 7 and Andor before he had to go to another delivery. That was pretty cool.

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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

DaysBefore posted:

I just call a cab which works just as well and is cheaper lol

this feels completely bizarre to me because I experienced cabs per uber/lyft where they would very rarely show up, were more expensive, did not have credit card readers and if they did would charge a completely different amount than indicated

even in the last year when I’ve taken a cab for work and ask for a receipt they hand me a blank form for me to fill out. this is technically against expense policy and if I pay cash there is a chance I wouldn’t be reimbursed (with a credit card you can at least show the charge on the bill)

Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023

Wagenknecht: The Condition of Germany

quote:

But now our Mittelstand firms are under massive pressure ... These small and medium-sized family-owned firms—lots of them specialist engineering works or makers of machine-tools, auto parts, electrical equipment—are really important for Germany. They’re mostly owner-managed or family-run, meaning they’re not listed on the stock exchange and often have quite a rugged character. But they have their own sort of business culture, focused on the longer term, the next generation, rather than quarterly returns. They’re embedded in their local communities, often doing business-to-business trading. They want to retain their workers, instead of exploiting every loophole, like the big corporations—of which we have plenty, too.

But Mittelstand firms have been under pressure for a long time ... German governments, prodded by global capital, have been tightening the conditions under which they operate.

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites

DaysBefore posted:

Lol true a lot of Doordash/Amazon Prime/Uber grocery types can't handle 'hey can I get a cab to address - okay they'll be there soon'

I can't probably speak for a lot of millennials cause I legit do not mind phonecalls but I can say I do like online trails for stuff after getting burned by a lot of informal forms of communication. Even at work I'll request people send me stuff or I'll follow up personally in email after we've talked about it in person cause I want a direct paper trail. My experience from the white collar world is if I don't they will lie about it afterwards.

If anything I kind of prefer phonecalls or face to face stuff over short simple issues cause they get resolved immediately, whereas if you ask someone a question that could be resolved in a matter of minutes in an email it just sort of takes inherently longer cause most people with desk jobs spend the bulk of their day watching videos or whatever and will sit on an email. But by doing it via email I have irrefutable evidence I asked about that thing on monday in the morning and it's not my fault they blew it off until friday afternoon.

Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023

PoundSand posted:

I can't probably speak for a lot of millennials cause I legit do not mind phonecalls but I can say I do like online trails for stuff after getting burned by a lot of informal forms of communication. Even at work I'll request people send me stuff or I'll follow up personally in email after we've talked about it in person cause I want a direct paper trail. My experience from the white collar world is if I don't they will lie about it afterwards.

If anything I kind of prefer phonecalls or face to face stuff over short simple issues cause they get resolved immediately, whereas if you ask someone a question that could be resolved in a matter of minutes in an email it just sort of takes inherently longer cause most people with desk jobs spend the bulk of their day watching videos or whatever and will sit on an email. But by doing it via email I have irrefutable evidence I asked about that thing on monday in the morning and it's not my fault they blew it off until friday afternoon.

Verbal contract ain't worth the paper it's written on.

Abner Assington
Mar 13, 2005

For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry god. Bloody Mary, full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now, at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon.

Amen.

hobbesmaster posted:

this feels completely bizarre to me because I experienced cabs per uber/lyft where they would very rarely show up, were more expensive, did not have credit card readers and if they did would charge a completely different amount than indicated

even in the last year when I’ve taken a cab for work and ask for a receipt they hand me a blank form for me to fill out. this is technically against expense policy and if I pay cash there is a chance I wouldn’t be reimbursed (with a credit card you can at least show the charge on the bill)
Pretty much same in my area (Cincinnati), but one particular experience where I was getting home from the bars one night and the cab driver absolutely insisted on going a longer route rather than what was basically a straight shot down one street to where I lived at the time.

e: Exactly this.
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PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites

hobbesmaster posted:

this feels completely bizarre to me because I experienced cabs per uber/lyft where they would very rarely show up, were more expensive, did not have credit card readers and if they did would charge a completely different amount than indicated

even in the last year when I’ve taken a cab for work and ask for a receipt they hand me a blank form for me to fill out. this is technically against expense policy and if I pay cash there is a chance I wouldn’t be reimbursed (with a credit card you can at least show the charge on the bill)

uber overtook cabs so easily cause they sucked terribly and anyone saying otherwise either never used them or was a complete revisionist. One of my first experiences with cabs was when I was doing an undergraduate research experience and got a cab from the airport to the loving university of minnesota and they tried to drive around for half an hour acting confused about how to get there while racking up a bill before I specified I would be paying with cash only and already knew how much money it'd take to get from the airport to campus.

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

My least favorite strategy game is the one where you stand on the side of the road waving at empty cabs hoping that they pick you.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


nomad2020 posted:

My least favorite strategy game is the one where you stand on the side of the road waving at empty cabs hoping that they pick you.

Last time I was in Chicago I always got a cab within six minutes via this strategy

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


PoundSand posted:

uber overtook cabs so easily cause they sucked terribly and anyone saying otherwise either never used them or was a complete revisionist. One of my first experiences with cabs was when I was doing an undergraduate research experience and got a cab from the airport to the loving university of minnesota and they tried to drive around for half an hour acting confused about how to get there while racking up a bill before I specified I would be paying with cash only and already knew how much money it'd take to get from the airport to campus.

First time I used Uber was because the cab I called to take me from a restaurant to my hotel was two loving hours late. Like thirty minutes after my Uber dropped me off at the hotel they called like "i'm here where are you?" (after I had called dispatch twice trying to cancel, and they never answered)

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls
https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1786272981058220187
the answer is that it's good for the capitalists, right

Nitevision
Oct 5, 2004

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It's simultaneously true that apps seek to remove every trace of social friction, which is bad and dehumanizing to all parties, and also that reading a list of information or your credit card number over a loving scratchy phone connection, often with a ton of background noise, is a stupid way to arrange anything important

Digital ordering works great when you're able to contact a human when you need to. Silicon Valley companies would love to literally employ zero humans, in order to maximize the rent they extract, which is why everything loving sucks. Not simply because of digital information transmission

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Everyone ruling over us is an imbecile who has no clue what they're doing. All the "smart" (comparatively) or competent elites probably retired or died decades ago. Now we have these idiots who probably need help dressing themselves in the morning.

Nitevision
Oct 5, 2004

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Like there's a good reason accountants etc. don't just "pick up the phone" and read figures and invoices to each other while they're both sitting on the line lmfao. It's not because they have "anxiety"

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

Navigating mounting losses ($24 billion since the start of 2019) Boeing has locked out its unionized firefighters who protect its aircraft-manufacturing plants, and brought in scabs.

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/boeing-locks-out-its-private-firefighters-around-seattle-over-pay-dispute/MWQWBIUFXBH2PLQYB6NAX45QR4/

On a positive note at Boeing, zero whistleblowers have died for 3 days running.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

rudecyrus posted:

https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1786272981058220187
the answer is that it's good for the capitalists, right

this chap is quite handsome, especially for his age, though. have to remember that

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




the popes toes posted:

Navigating mounting losses ($24 billion since the start of 2019) Boeing has locked out its unionized firefighters who protect its aircraft-manufacturing plants, and brought in scabs.

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/boeing-locks-out-its-private-firefighters-around-seattle-over-pay-dispute/MWQWBIUFXBH2PLQYB6NAX45QR4/

On a positive note at Boeing, zero whistleblowers have died for 3 days running.



since last murder (that you know of)

post COVID
Mar 5, 2007

free college, free healthcare, free Shmurda


rudecyrus posted:

https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1786272981058220187
the answer is that it's good for the capitalists, right

lmfao

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

the popes toes posted:

Navigating mounting losses ($24 billion since the start of 2019) Boeing has locked out its unionized firefighters who protect its aircraft-manufacturing plants, and brought in scabs.

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/boeing-locks-out-its-private-firefighters-around-seattle-over-pay-dispute/MWQWBIUFXBH2PLQYB6NAX45QR4/

On a positive note at Boeing, zero whistleblowers have died for 3 days running.



I would love to know what "replacement firefighters" means in terms of experience and training vs who they are replacing. It's very much a job you can't fill with bodies. loving MBAs.

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Gorson posted:

I would love to know what "replacement firefighters" means in terms of experience and training vs who they are replacing. It's very much a job you can't fill with bodies. loving MBAs.

California's 'volunteer' slave prison firefighters disagree, OP - gotta love the 13th Amendment carveout!

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/KlonnyPin_Gosch/status/1785834798084202651

Maybe Boeing will be be using a different lawfirm when baiting the whistleblowers for the next few rounds.

Glumwheels
Jan 25, 2003

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ

So do used car salesmen who live with their parents I suppose

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Glumwheels posted:

So do used car salesmen who live with their parents I suppose

What's wrong with living with your parents...? :thunk:

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

its cool that google search, once known for being insanely fast, now loads a placeholder element that takes 3 seconds to generate a lovely AI answer to a query. great work team

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...
Any good books on the 2008 financial crisis? Something that explains the timeline?

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Real hurthling! posted:

agent 747 will be his name and bodycount

hahh

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


err posted:

Any good books on the 2008 financial crisis? Something that explains the timeline?

Matt Taibbi is a big dumb reactionary idiot nowadays but I thought his book Griftopia was good when I read it twelve years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griftopia

90sgamer
Jun 28, 2023
fuck off worms butthole guy!!!
https://x.com/potus/status/1786765648560890331?s=46&t=-VZSxDkiWhxQSeyPFaKJQw


Uuuugghhhhhhh

Why does every single loving line in Star Wars have to be a corporate slogan. Does Joe Biden even know about the “I have a bad feeling about this” line? Does he even know who Luke Skywalker is?

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
star wars has always been liberal

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


The entire premise of Star Wars is that a Special By Birth caste knows better how to run poo poo than anyone else does and that despite being removed from power repeatedly they deserve to be in charge

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

don't forget the guy named Lando and what he did.

mahershalalhashbaz
Jul 22, 2021

by Pragmatica

(and can't post for 10 days!)

pretty much every sf/f property is about removing an evil monarchy just to put another monarchy in its place, but it's ok, these ones are good people

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

Lpzie posted:

don't forget the guy named Lando and what he did.

What did he do? I have not seen the movie and will not even if you insist.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


the popes toes posted:

What did he do? I have not seen the movie and will not even if you insist.

The guy named Lando helped the heroes land

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


mahershalalhashbaz posted:

pretty much every sf/f property is about removing an evil monarchy just to put another monarchy in its place, but it's ok, these ones are good people

The entire premise of the Anne McCaffrey series Dragonriders of Pern (which was popular from the 1960s-1980s) was that a special-by-birth caste of traditionalists are the only ones who are capable of keeping things from falling apart and that anyone else who tries to make things better will just gently caress everything up. It's just one of many like that. It's no mistake that the sci-fi/fantasy fandom and by extension the gaming fandom is full of the worst people imaginable.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

mahershalalhashbaz posted:

pretty much every sf/f property is about removing an evil monarchy just to put another monarchy in its place, but it's ok, these ones are good people

a concept so ingrained that Frank Herbert had to keep writing books on the topic of the new monarchy not being good either

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

The entire premise of Star Wars is that a Special By Birth caste knows better how to run poo poo than anyone else does and that despite being removed from power repeatedly they deserve to be in charge

is this why people are suddenly deciding the prequels are good because this shows the limits of that

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

wish someone would have the balls to start writing a book and publish it before getting to the ending like Philip k Dick used to

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Prequels are good because of what came after (except rogue one)

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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Nitevision posted:

Like there's a good reason accountants etc. don't just "pick up the phone" and read figures and invoices to each other while they're both sitting on the line lmfao. It's not because they have "anxiety"

I'm pretty sure the ability to read numbers over to each other over the phone is a solvable, if not solved, problem

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