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smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

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fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I guess that's one way of keeping your job

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


More like defecating to Labour

InspectorCarbonara
Jul 2, 2010

Evening, patrolmaaan.
They realised that they can just come back to the UK, get given £3000 to leave again, and repeat for infinite money.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003


it’s so funny this is an accepted practice

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

forkboy84 posted:

More like defecating to Labour

Labouring to defecate

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

OwlFancier posted:

I was legit hoping this was what would happen, just pay for the lad's holiday lmao.

Icing on the cake is going to be when it's revealed he was a Rwandan seeking asylum here.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I hope everyone who defec(a)t(e)s to Labour before the GE loses their seat when it eventually happens.
Preferably to a communist running as an Independent.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

fuctifino posted:

He has a Linktree that proudly lists his website: https://www.leagueofybp.org/



:lol: and :lmao:

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Jel Shaker posted:

it’s so funny this is an accepted practice

Churchill did it between his stints as PM. As he put it, you can't do anything if you're not in power. It should have been a bit of a clue that a Tory PM could defect to the Liberals and fit in just fine, though.

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

Your daily cup of fuck you.
According to Torygraph a summer GE has been ruled out. Try and see how Rwanda stuff goes first or leadership election? Hoping the latter purely based on what kind of idiot would want the job.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


IMO it's just to keep the grift going as long as possible, hope the political headwinds change by the time election rolls around.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Labour don't need tory defectors, they could, were they principled, tell them to gently caress off. And it would be very funny. That they have and will likely continue to accept them with open arms is pretty telling I think.

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!



OwlFancier posted:

Labour don't need tory defectors, they could, were they principled, tell them to gently caress off. And it would be very funny. That they have and will likely continue to accept them with open arms is pretty telling I think.

Given that statements like "Oh, I voted Green once," can get you ejected from the party, being a Tory MP as a matter of public record ought to disqualify you as well.

Never does though, does it.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post


GROSS: Get Rid Of Slimy wokeS

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish

And you may tell yourself - "This is not my beautiful country!"

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




(Same as it ever was)

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/05/unite-warns-it-will-hold-back-funds-if-labour-weakens-plan-on-workers-rights

quote:

Unite warns it will hold back funds if Labour weakens plan on workers’ rights
Union leader Sharon Graham says Keir Starmer risks ‘limping into Downing Street’

Labour’s biggest union backer has warned it may divert election funding earmarked for the party, amid claims that Keir Starmer is diluting plans to overhaul workers’ rights.

In an interview with the Observer, Unite’s general secretary, Sharon Graham, said the Labour leader risked “limping into Downing Street” if he backed down in the face of intense lobbying from businesses.

She warned that any rowing back or delay represented a “red line” for her and her members, adding she was seeking reassurances from Labour’s leaders. She also suggested that, with the election just months away, she would also consider using potential election funds to instead back a grassroots campaign that would lobby Labour MPs to stand by their pledges to workers.

etc

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Starbucks posted:

According to Torygraph a summer GE has been ruled out. Try and see how Rwanda stuff goes first or leadership election? Hoping the latter purely based on what kind of idiot would want the job.

September or October seems the most likely outcome at this point. There was a lot of chat about Sunak calling a quick one after the locals because he was afraid of leadership challenges, but it seems like the Tories are loving cowards (we all knew that) so there's no danger there. Which means this parliament limps on forever

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

not sure they want another winter to go by, they'll probably lose another 10% of their voters to natural causes

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I think Rishi will hang on until the very last minute and dissolve parliament on the 12th December, meaning an election in the middle of January. What motivation is there for the Tories to call one sooner? While they are in power, they have access to our nation's credit cards.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
COWARD

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
.nm found it now.

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
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one side
Off topic but this thread is often really good for this kind of thing so: does anyone know much about the Student Loans Company?

I graduated 10 years ago and for the last 6-7 years I've been living outside the UK. I don't really plan to go back to the UK, but I'm not fully decided on that either. The Student Loans Company have been sporadically asking me for information all that time, which I've never given them and I've never paid anything back.

I have kind of thought this all doesn't matter, as I've never even been earning enough to begin paying back anyway (I think). However, I did recently hear from someone that the threshold depends on where you are, i.e while my current earnings aren't high enough to meet the UK threshold, they're quite high for the country I do live in (Vietnam) so I potentially should have been paying back for years.

I think the only two reasons I care at all are: I don't want to be in any legal trouble by just ignoring them and it's also vaguely possible that I might want to study again and take another loan from them :v:

Any opinions/info?

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

fuctifino posted:

I think Rishi will hang on until the very last minute and dissolve parliament on the 12th December, meaning an election in the middle of January. What motivation is there for the Tories to call one sooner? While they are in power, they have access to our nation's credit cards.
Doesn't it have to be in 2024, or do they just have to set a date? Or is it 4 years from the date of the last one?

I guess hell timeline is that they just amend or throw out the FTPA and put it off forever.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

OwlFancier posted:

I know that wasn't true because I already know who her secret lady love interest was.

your nan was in a polycule

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Paperhouse posted:

Off topic but this thread is often really good for this kind of thing so: does anyone know much about the Student Loans Company?

I graduated 10 years ago and for the last 6-7 years I've been living outside the UK. I don't really plan to go back to the UK, but I'm not fully decided on that either. The Student Loans Company have been sporadically asking me for information all that time, which I've never given them and I've never paid anything back.

I have kind of thought this all doesn't matter, as I've never even been earning enough to begin paying back anyway (I think). However, I did recently hear from someone that the threshold depends on where you are, i.e while my current earnings aren't high enough to meet the UK threshold, they're quite high for the country I do live in (Vietnam) so I potentially should have been paying back for years.

I think the only two reasons I care at all are: I don't want to be in any legal trouble by just ignoring them and it's also vaguely possible that I might want to study again and take another loan from them :v:

Any opinions/info?

That is really not very good, they might want you to pay some or all of it in a lump sum, possibly with additional interest. If you live abroad you are supposed to send them declarations of your income every year and as you said the payment thresholds depend on the cost of living in a given country, but are generally much lower than in the UK. All in all it's a giant pain to deal with, not the least because you also should have supporting documentation officially translated into English for each year (and/or each job change).

If you're lucky you might get away with it, but it's really not great.

e: Am posting this as someone who went through the process since I moved out of the UK after Brexit for a short while with an outstanding student loan.

From what I heard they sometimes send loan collection agencies after you, plus if you lie to them you might commit fraud.

I've seen some advice online that they might be able to arrange backpayment with you if you get in touch with them, but it's probably best to ask a specialist adviser or a lawyer (which I am not).

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 06:18 on May 6, 2024

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Rust Martialis posted:

your nan was in a polycule

a polycule consisting of NaN individuals

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


Paperhouse posted:

Off topic but this thread is often really good for this kind of thing so: does anyone know much about the Student Loans Company?

I graduated 10 years ago and for the last 6-7 years I've been living outside the UK. I don't really plan to go back to the UK, but I'm not fully decided on that either. The Student Loans Company have been sporadically asking me for information all that time, which I've never given them and I've never paid anything back.

I have kind of thought this all doesn't matter, as I've never even been earning enough to begin paying back anyway (I think). However, I did recently hear from someone that the threshold depends on where you are, i.e while my current earnings aren't high enough to meet the UK threshold, they're quite high for the country I do live in (Vietnam) so I potentially should have been paying back for years.

I think the only two reasons I care at all are: I don't want to be in any legal trouble by just ignoring them and it's also vaguely possible that I might want to study again and take another loan from them :v:

Any opinions/info?

Pretty much the exact same thing happened to me when I was living in Florida. I wasn’t earning very much, and the SLC left me alone, right up until the point they didn’t. Things got very expensive, very quickly, to the point where I had to phone them up and basically beg them not to make me unable to feed my son, they were threatening to take such a large lump sum to make up for not paying for a year or so.

In the end, after several phone calls explaining to them what my life was really like in Florida, I managed to negotiate them down to something that was merely very large garnishing of my pay, instead of cripplingly huge.

Sad Panda
Sep 22, 2004

I'm a Sad Panda.

fuctifino posted:

I think Rishi will hang on until the very last minute and dissolve parliament on the 12th December, meaning an election in the middle of January. What motivation is there for the Tories to call one sooner? While they are in power, they have access to our nation's credit cards.

Access to nations credit card sure, but also because any policies they can push through will stay for an extended period of time. Labour has shown no appetite to undo Tory malevolence so why not push more and more through. They know they're going to lose so might as well use this time to enact all the poo poo policies they can.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
Had a slight panic when I realised I haven't had a letter from the slc for years, but checked my payslip and they are still leaching money off me so it's all fine.

Maybe someone should tell Rishi that writing off the student loan debt would win the loyalty of an entire generation who currently hate him.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Doesn't it have to be in 2024, or do they just have to set a date? Or is it 4 years from the date of the last one?

I guess hell timeline is that they just amend or throw out the FTPA and put it off forever.

The FTPA got thrown out years ago. It only ever existed to stop the Lib Dems forcing an early GE by breaking the coalition.

Parliament must be dissolved within five years of the date of the last GE. By convention this is done at least six weeks before that date so there is continuity of government, but we all know what the Tories make of convention. They'll happily leave the country without a government for six weeks or illegally extend their own tenure past the deadline.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


It's not 'actually illegal' anyway, but I don't think they could push through an extension without the press raising hell (it's not like Starmer would be much worse for them).

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 09:28 on May 6, 2024

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Had a slight panic when I realised I haven't had a letter from the slc for years, but checked my payslip and they are still leaching money off me so it's all fine.

Maybe someone should tell Rishi that writing off the student loan debt would win the loyalty of an entire generation who currently hate him.

There's probably some super tory doner at the top of the SLC or something that would make this impossible for them to do.

I don't know if it's because of the passive nature of the loan repayments (tied to income), or the tying interest to inflation makes it a "free" loan or whatever that was said when I was at uni, or whether it's just a lot of naivety of young folk who've never had a loan before; but the general impression I got from others at uni was that it was a chunk of money to spend with no consequences so they should try and take as much as possible.

The SLC are a loan company like any other though. You took their money, they'll do anything short of breaking your legs to get it back.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Had a slight panic when I realised I haven't had a letter from the slc for years, but checked my payslip and they are still leaching money off me so it's all fine.

Maybe someone should tell Rishi that writing off the student loan debt would win the loyalty of an entire generation who currently hate him.

I had a brief period of a couple of years where I couldn't log in to my SLC account. I had moved house a couple of times and they wouldn't update my details without sending me a letter by post to an address I no longer lived at. They were still taking my money but wouldn't tell me how much I had left etc.

Managed to solve that a few years later when they updated their systems and let me do it all electronically. Now I get to see the depressing numbers whenever I want!

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Kin posted:

There's probably some super tory doner at the top of the SLC or something that would make this impossible for them to do.

I don't know if it's because of the passive nature of the loan repayments (tied to income), or the tying interest to inflation makes it a "free" loan or whatever that was said when I was at uni, or whether it's just a lot of naivety of young folk who've never had a loan before; but the general impression I got from others at uni was that it was a chunk of money to spend with no consequences so they should try and take as much as possible.

The SLC are a loan company like any other though. You took their money, they'll do anything short of breaking your legs to get it back.

If you're in the UK, the way repayments are fixed and the 30 year cap means over a certain amount borrowing more money doesn't increase your repayments. Like I have £75K of student loan, but I'm not going to pay back any more than if I didn't do a fourth year and only had £60K of students loan instead.

Things get messier when you're outside the UK for sure, but in most cases the amount you're borrowing already won't be paid back so borrowing even more is just "free" money.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Jedit posted:

The FTPA got thrown out years ago. It only ever existed to stop the Lib Dems forcing an early GE by breaking the coalition.

Parliament must be dissolved within five years of the date of the last GE. By convention this is done at least six weeks before that date so there is continuity of government, but we all know what the Tories make of convention. They'll happily leave the country without a government for six weeks or illegally extend their own tenure past the deadline.

Also, see Northern Ireland during the long-running period of Storment not sitting.

There was legal obligations on the Tories to call elections at various points and they always went with the argument of "we'd prefer the parties work though the difficulties"

Which translates as "if another election is called the DUP might not get enough seats. We can't have that."

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Huh, thanks to this chat I just checked my Student Loan balance and it's -£2000.

Last time I looked in January it was £600 owed. How the heck did that happen? Guess I'll get on them for a repayment.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
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stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



£11k still to pay. :smith:

At least it's going down relatively quickly...

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