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i would rather have my gund-drop buttons stolen than ever hear about gundam seed ever again in any capacity
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Eej posted:After The Rouge is buried under this thing, which is the Dragonar reference.
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May 10, 2024 04:33
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Well that's about as direct of a reference it can be if Kunio Okawara worked on both.
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May 10, 2024 05:23
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drat, I thought it was supposed to be a scopedog type thing given the visor
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May 10, 2024 06:28
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Eej posted:Well that's about as direct of a reference it can be if Kunio Okawara worked on both. It can get more direct.    
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May 10, 2024 07:22
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May 10, 2024 07:26
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Between WfM, SF, and Hathaway, Gundam has really been going great recently. The franchise has its ups and downs but this is definitely a high point.
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May 10, 2024 15:02
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I don't know if it's quite at the peak of the 2015-2018 period but that's probably the COVID years coloring my memory of times before.
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May 10, 2024 15:06
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Gripweed posted:Between WfM, SF, and Hathaway, Gundam has really been going great recently. The franchise has its ups and downs but this is definitely a high point. Not to mention the G-reco movies wrapped up only a few years back!
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May 10, 2024 15:11
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Series feels in a better place than in 2015-18 simply cause it's feels like non-UC stuff is more viable and they're willing to take more chances than 15-18 due to Age being such a disaster
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May 10, 2024 15:14
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Can't find much enthusiasm about any of it in terms of production though. We got a movie that took decades to realize, another film series on a ??? schedule, and them limping over the finish line of one split-cour show. Understandable circumstances in all cases but it doesn't feel good or inspire optimism.
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May 10, 2024 15:18
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AGE may continue to cast a pall on Gundam but I think a lot of the current issues are more that the industry at large is bursting at the seams. Plus Sunrise has their own strange priorities sometimes. I don't disagree that the franchise has been taking in the cash and has been financially successful but I'm hesitant to call it "healthy". Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 15:31 on May 10, 2024 |
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May 10, 2024 15:19
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Eej posted:Well that's about as direct of a reference it can be if Kunio Okawara worked on both. Fukuda also worked on Dragonar and the dude loves sprinkling references in. (For the record Athrun's previously mentioned cool car is actually the Ashurada from Cyber Formula GPX, just as another example.) ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 15:24 on May 10, 2024 |
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May 10, 2024 15:22
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Series feels in a better place than in 2015-18 simply cause it's feels like non-UC stuff is more viable and they're willing to take more chances than 15-18 due to Age being such a disaster Yeah Hathaway and SF are targeted at different parts of the core Gundam audience while WfM was targeted at non-Gundam fans, and all three were great and succeeded at their goals. It feels like Gundam is in a very broadly healthy place
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May 10, 2024 15:24
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Gripweed posted:Between WfM, SF, and Hathaway, Gundam has really been going great recently. The franchise has its ups and downs but this is definitely a high point. Bandai just released the earnings for gundam this fiscal year and it made 145 billion yen compared to 130 a year go. So yeah. It's doing just fine on all fronts.
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May 10, 2024 17:35
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How did people feel about the large number of CG grunt suits at the beginning of Freedom? I think it was fine in the later part of the movie when it was quick cuts of 1 or 2 MS, but the first battle had some long shots on groups of grunt suits and the movement was stuttery. I think you’d notice it less not in a theater, but the first like 10 min of the movie was super herky jerky whenever a CG MS is on.
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May 10, 2024 17:39
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Yeah it looked a bit rough on the cg at first. There also seemed to be way more of it at the beginning compared to the final fight. But hey, the wingdam finally got an on screen kill!
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May 10, 2024 17:44
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haypliss posted:Can't find much enthusiasm about any of it in terms of production though. We got a movie that took decades to realize, another film series on a ??? schedule, and them limping over the finish line of one split-cour show. Understandable circumstances in all cases but it doesn't feel good or inspire optimism.
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May 10, 2024 18:32
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Monaghan posted:Bandai just released the earnings for gundam this fiscal year and it made 145 billion yen compared to 130 a year go.
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May 10, 2024 18:33
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It's funny watching them conflate their hatred for the show with imaginary sales figures that aren't backed up by the actual numbers.
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May 10, 2024 18:37
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How much of that gundams revenue is going to be reinvested into cool shows and movies and how much is going into propping up stupid bullshit like metaverse
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May 10, 2024 18:45
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Endorph posted:tbf in freedom's case i dont think it was really in production hell, it seems like production only really started in earnest a few years ago. it was more the issues with the SEED writer passing away throwing everything off and the director not wanting to revisit it since he was married to her and going fullsteam ahead right after would have felt callous to him. its not really a production issue. Yeah, to be clear, Kira and Lacus were genuinely important to Fukuda and his wife. It was something they got mocked for at times but IIRC they even cosplayed as them. It's not hugely surprising that doing a big movie focused on Kira and Lacus' romance would likely sting more than a little. It's also why I'm a bit sympathetic to the film for being basically raw wish fulfillment romance stuff because Morisawa is still credited as a writer on it and I'm not really going to blame a dude for taking a big-rear end budget and making a film about how much he loves his now-deceased wife.
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May 10, 2024 18:46
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ninjewtsu posted:How much of that gundams revenue is going to be reinvested into cool shows and movies and how much is going into propping up stupid bullshit like metaverse it will instead be redistributed to japan only arcade games and premium bandai kits
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May 10, 2024 18:46
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, to be clear, Kira and Lacus were genuinely important to Fukuda and his wife. It was something they got mocked for at times but IIRC they even cosplayed as them. It's not hugely surprising that doing a big movie focused on Kira and Lacus' romance would likely sting more than a little. It's also why I'm a bit sympathetic to the film for being basically raw wish fulfillment romance stuff because Morisawa is still credited as a writer on it and I'm not really going to blame a dude for taking a big-rear end budget and making a film about how much he loves his now-deceased wife. frankly, i liked freedom. its messy and weird but it also feels really honest and human. its a lot closer to something like a cross ange than a seed destiny. its got some baggage due to being, well, a seed destiny sequel and it really feels like it desperately wants to be two movies but outside of a handful of episodes of OG seed its probably my favorite thing done with seed. (with apologies to astray, which has some cool concepts and characters but really meandering plotting) (and apologies to super robot wars z which im not counting)
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May 10, 2024 18:48
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They're probably gonna make a MOBA as a second attempt to prop up the esports pillar of the Metaverse initiative, but otherwise, it seems like it's been a dud, and especially after it accidentally leaked a bunch of kits, it doesn't seem worth throwing good money after bad. Especially since the whole fad seems to be on the downswing.
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May 10, 2024 18:48
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Endorph posted:the GUNDAM METAVERSE already bombed Wait is bandai actually giving up on that instead of continuing to barrel full steam ahead
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May 10, 2024 18:49
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Waffleman_ posted:They're probably gonna make a MOBA as a second attempt to prop up the esports pillar of the Metaverse initiative, but otherwise, it seems like it's been a dud, and especially after it accidentally leaked a bunch of kits, it doesn't seem worth throwing good money after bad. Especially since the whole fad seems to be on the downswing. I'm going to be very disappointed if they release a gundam moba and dont call it moba suit gundam
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May 10, 2024 18:50
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Endorph posted:frankly, i liked freedom. its messy and weird but it also feels really honest and human. its a lot closer to something like a cross ange than a seed destiny. its got some baggage due to being, well, a seed destiny sequel and it really feels like it desperately wants to be two movies but outside of a handful of episodes of OG seed its probably my favorite thing done with seed. (with apologies to astray, which has some cool concepts and characters but really meandering plotting) (and apologies to super robot wars z which im not counting) It's messy but messy isn't necessarily a bad thing. I think the 'honesty' (for lack of a better word) of it is part of why it is resonating with people. It's a weird goofy movie with notable issues but it feels like something genuinely created by a person and not something pumped out by a marketing department.
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ImpAtom posted:It's messy but messy isn't necessarily a bad thing. I think the 'honesty' (for lack of a better word) of it is part of why it is resonating with people. It's a weird goofy movie with notable issues but it feels like something genuinely created by a person and not something pumped out by a marketing department. Messy is a core part of Seed since like halfway through the OG show. So I’m always here for it.
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I think the biggest damper on my enthusiasm is not having a clear schedule for when a given project is coming. The thing I'm most excited about right now is Hathaway 2, and the release for that is ???. Unicorn 2 has been teased for over 5 years now right? Where is it? I find it hard to look forward to something that might be 6 months or 6 years away from seeing daylight.
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ninjewtsu posted:Wait is bandai actually giving up on that instead of continuing to barrel full steam ahead what happened is they gave everyone 3d printer schematics for kits and made an overwatch clone that died. there was a relaunch of the 'metaverse project' app a few months back but it was basically just a 3d gallery of jpgs of kitbash contest winners, the scope had been drastically reduced.
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I think the word you're looking for is earnest. Fukuda and co just really love SEED and aren't afraid to acknowledge how silly it is.
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Bandai Namco may be up there with some mind boggling dumb decisions but they're not quite put all their eggs in one basket dumb or Xbox division dumb. I imagine they'll make sure core Gundam projects get funded along with whatever weird experiments they do
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We also got robbed of the Impulse launching via the Core Splendor imo.
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Warmachine posted:I think the biggest damper on my enthusiasm is not having a clear schedule for when a given project is coming. The thing I'm most excited about right now is Hathaway 2, and the release for that is ???. Unicorn 2 has been teased for over 5 years now right? Where is it? Don't worry we've got new Igloo coming at some indeterminate time and the VR extravaganza coming at some indeterminate time. All proceeds will go towards Ver Ka redesigns.
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May 10, 2024 19:00
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TheMightyBoops posted:We also got robbed of the Impulse launching via the Core Splendor imo. One of the few points I'll give Destiny was finding a problem for the transformation system to solve. "Here's an Ace Combat style trench run and the only thing that will fit is your disassembled mobile suit in flyer mode." Yeah, narratively it's contrived, but it is just organic enough to justify a toyetic feature having a practical application.
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Impulse is the kind of thing that absolutely makes sense in a setting where singular ace pilots are considered able to turn the tides of entire battles. (i.e: most Gundam series.) It's designed to be an instantly modular machine that can have its parts and weaponry exchanged on the fly and is designed such that anything short of a direct cockpit shot will leave its pilot able to escape and return to the battlefield in moments. In the hands of someone like Shin it becomes genuinely terrifying because he is absolutely good enough to fight the best pilots in the setting and unlike most other MSes he can afford to sacrifice parts of his robot to do it as long as he's got backup. (Shooting parts out of your carrier is goofy but y'know, giant mech show.) Age should have done this even better with its whole 3D Printer gimmick except Age.
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Arc Hammer posted:Don't worry we've got new Igloo coming at some indeterminate time and the VR extravaganza coming at some indeterminate time. Ftfy
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Bandai Namco may be up there with some mind boggling dumb decisions but they're not quite put all their eggs in one basket dumb or Xbox division dumb. I imagine they'll make sure core Gundam projects get funded along with whatever weird experiments they do
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ImpAtom posted:Impulse is the kind of thing that absolutely makes sense in a setting where singular ace pilots are considered able to turn the tides of entire battles. (i.e: most Gundam series.) Yeah I think launching it in pieces every episode is just an animation save. In OG even when the G Armor was around the Gundam would still launch all together when it made sense. Edit: I’m glad Shin got some time in freedom post Destiny arc to not be the worst. He’s actually a sort of an interesting villain in my eyes for a lot of Destiny, but they only let him be normal of like 10 secs in the last episode. TheMightyBoops fucked around with this message at 19:13 on May 10, 2024 |
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