Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
well, other than nuking everything and bringing about the blessed silence

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

biceps crimes posted:

i want to see the lib heads explode after a biden n-word incident

Which black Democrat will rush to give him the N-word pass first

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002

KomradeX posted:

Which black Democrat will rush to give him the N-word pass first

Ilhan

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

the_steve posted:

Lol, my dad got us 23andMe kits a couple years back for that reason, wanting to trace the family tree and whatnot.

Found out he has a half-sister nobody ever knew about.

Is there a "good" DNA test company these days? I heard the well-known ones fell off.

ScootsMcSkirt
Oct 29, 2013

Animal-Mother posted:

Is there a "good" DNA test company these days? I heard the well-known ones fell off.

lol you moron

i vomit kittens
Apr 25, 2019


Animal-Mother posted:

Is there a "good" DNA test company these days? I heard the well-known ones fell off.

there are no good companies

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA

Animal-Mother posted:

Is there a "good" DNA test company these days? I heard the well-known ones fell off.
send me a vial of your spit and a couple hundred dollars and ill write you one up

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
If you want to possibly find some hilarious family drama it can be fun.

My sister and I got our DNA done separately because we were specifically checking for macular degeneration and a specific cancer and the side drama became:

We have another half aunt now.
My sister is my half sister.

Also we both should have our ovaries and fallopian tubes removed basically as soon as we hit menopause due to a pretty horrific and fast acting cancer :( We both had this reconfirmed with a hospital geneticist and retested and all that jazz.

But nothing matters anyway so lol.

silicone thrills has issued a correction as of 20:27 on May 12, 2024

ScootsMcSkirt
Oct 29, 2013

hey guys, which corporation should i send my dna to?

i dont want to get taken advantage of here

lousy hat
Jul 17, 2004

bone appetit
Clapping Larry

FlapYoJacks posted:

Joe Biden's birthdate is closer in time to Abraham Lincoln's second inauguration than it is to his own inauguration.

if you’re 50 or younger, Joe Biden became a Senator before you were born

LuxuryLarva
Sep 8, 2023

Hot dude with a cool attitude.

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

hey guys, which corporation should i send my dna to?

i dont want to get taken advantage of here

Send it here I'll figure it out.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


I put my DNA into the hoagie buns at Wawa.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

lol you moron

I'm half moron on my father's side. My mother's family are Scotch-Idiots.

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019



:420::toot::420:
Joe Biden

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020


yep

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011



who

Programmer Humor
Nov 27, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
not good, folks

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

lol

Nitevision
Oct 5, 2004

Your Friendly FYAD Helper
Ask Me For FYAD Help
Another Reason To Talk To Me Is To Hangout

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

CN CREW-VESSEL posted:

They need to stop letting homeless men hang out there to use the internet

didnt we use to turn homeless people into wifi hotspots whatever happened to that

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

Some Guy TT posted:

didnt we use to turn homeless people into wifi hotspots whatever happened to that

https://frinkiac.com/mp4/S08E02/192875/193926.mp4?b64lines=

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

PhilippAchtel posted:

Implying Samus is trans because she is big and kicks rear end is actually quite sexist. Is Ripley trans too?

Please don't answer... Oh god, someone has written an article about this, haven't they?

There’s been a lot of talk lately about the lack of women protagonists in videogames. But our problems with diversity don’t stop there. As one article recently noted, shockingly, there have only been 14 playable black women in videogame history. Gamers who aren’t cisgender white men often find themselves lacking characters they can rally behind.

Representation for transgender people is equally tough to find in gaming. Both Dangonronpa and Persona 4 managed to blunder transgender representation. One of the most famous transgender video game characters, Poison from Final Fight, is empowered but blatantly oversexualized. Characters and stories like this reinforce the harmful idea that transgender women only have societal value in their sex appeal.

That’s why I’m thrilled to tell you that one of the most famous women in videogame history happens to also be a transgender woman! It’s none other that Nintendo’s Samus Aran!

It’s true! In 1994, the writers of the official Japanese Super Metroid strategy guide asked Metroid’s developers if they could share any secrets about the intergalactic bounty hunter. Hirofumi Matsuoka, who helped work on the original design for Samus Aran, claimed that she “wasn’t a woman,” but instead, “ニューハーフ,” or “newhalf.” This language has its own issues, but terminology used for gender in the early 90s was as different in Japan as it was in the West.

There has been some debate asking if the comment was in jest or genuine. Some have compared Matsuoka’s use of “newhalf” to the offensive Western term “shemale.” It’s possible to interpret this as an ugly joke about Samus’s traditionally masculine appearance, as illustrated in the 80s by Nintendo Power, where she is said to be six foot three and 198 pounds.

In the uglier context, “newhalf” refers to trans women who have not had gender confirmation surgery – equivalent to Matsuoka laughing and remarking, “Yeah, Samus has a dick!”

However, “newhalf” wasn’t always used in a pornographic or insulting context, especially in 1994 Japan. The term is older, and stems from popular use of the term ハーフ, or “half,” used to refer to Japanese people of mixed-race origin. This form of self-identification became popularized throughout the early 1980s. By 1982 it had been picked up by the press and was used to refer to transgender performers such as actress and singer/songwriter Rumiko Matsubara.

Looking to negate Matsuoka’s remark, some gamers have pointed to a FAQ on the Japanese Zero Mission site by Yoshio Sakamoto, co-director of Metroid. There he says Samus being a newhalf is not impossible, but unlikely. Others have pointed to Samus’s portrayals as a child in Metroid Zero Mission, Metroid Other M, and official manga as proof that she is actually a cisgender woman.

This is where we get into the uglier world of cisnormativity and transgender erasure. Over the years, Nintendo has slowly altered Samus’s design into a petite blond woman with large breasts. Finding her sexually attractive, some gamers are flat-out uncomfortable thinking about her as a transgender woman. As @ThatSabineGirl points out on Twitter, many gamers are incorrectly assuming she is cisgender simply from her gender presentation. The truth is, you can’t know if someone is transgender by simply looking at them.

Fans asking for ironclad proof of Samus’s apparent transition can suspend their disbelief enough to believe there are bird aliens that develop powersuits, but can’t believe a girl could declare her gender identity at a young age. Besides, this is the same canon that purposefully misgenders the main character in both the Western and Japanese manuals for the original NES release in order to keep her gender a ‘surprise’.

No matter what fans say, the intent of the creator is the only opinion that really matters. When J.K. Rowling announced that Dumbledore from Harry Potter was gay, that was the end of the discussion. Some fans couldn’t accept or understand it, but her public statement was the only source that mattered. It’s an authorial acknowledgement that this character, like any, can realistically be queer or transgender without it having to define them.

What’s the harm of giving the benefit of the doubt to one of the most marginalized communities in gaming? Gamer Aria Ehren correctly points out that assuming characters are cisgender and straight without a preponderance of evidence is erasure.

Queer gamers have seen the language used for gender variant characters like Poison, Birdo, and Vivian evolve over time. That there’s been so much discussion around a throwaway quote in a Metroid strategy guide shows how desperate LGBTQ gamers are to find faces and stories like their own in games. For many, confirmation from Nintendo or Matsuoka isn’t important – it’s that we allow space for everyone in these worlds we love.

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


I will never read all of that vomit

Nitevision
Oct 5, 2004

Your Friendly FYAD Helper
Ask Me For FYAD Help
Another Reason To Talk To Me Is To Hangout

Some Guy TT posted:

There’s been a lot of talk lately about the lack of women protagonists in videogames. But our problems with diversity don’t stop there. As one article recently noted, shockingly, there have only been 14 playable black women in videogame history. Gamers who aren’t cisgender white men often find themselves lacking characters they can rally behind.

Representation for transgender people is equally tough to find in gaming. Both Dangonronpa and Persona 4 managed to blunder transgender representation. One of the most famous transgender video game characters, Poison from Final Fight, is empowered but blatantly oversexualized. Characters and stories like this reinforce the harmful idea that transgender women only have societal value in their sex appeal.

That’s why I’m thrilled to tell you that one of the most famous women in videogame history happens to also be a transgender woman! It’s none other that Nintendo’s Samus Aran!

It’s true! In 1994, the writers of the official Japanese Super Metroid strategy guide asked Metroid’s developers if they could share any secrets about the intergalactic bounty hunter. Hirofumi Matsuoka, who helped work on the original design for Samus Aran, claimed that she “wasn’t a woman,” but instead, “ニューハーフ,” or “newhalf.” This language has its own issues, but terminology used for gender in the early 90s was as different in Japan as it was in the West.

There has been some debate asking if the comment was in jest or genuine. Some have compared Matsuoka’s use of “newhalf” to the offensive Western term “shemale.” It’s possible to interpret this as an ugly joke about Samus’s traditionally masculine appearance, as illustrated in the 80s by Nintendo Power, where she is said to be six foot three and 198 pounds.

In the uglier context, “newhalf” refers to trans women who have not had gender confirmation surgery – equivalent to Matsuoka laughing and remarking, “Yeah, Samus has a dick!”

However, “newhalf” wasn’t always used in a pornographic or insulting context, especially in 1994 Japan. The term is older, and stems from popular use of the term ハーフ, or “half,” used to refer to Japanese people of mixed-race origin. This form of self-identification became popularized throughout the early 1980s. By 1982 it had been picked up by the press and was used to refer to transgender performers such as actress and singer/songwriter Rumiko Matsubara.

Looking to negate Matsuoka’s remark, some gamers have pointed to a FAQ on the Japanese Zero Mission site by Yoshio Sakamoto, co-director of Metroid. There he says Samus being a newhalf is not impossible, but unlikely. Others have pointed to Samus’s portrayals as a child in Metroid Zero Mission, Metroid Other M, and official manga as proof that she is actually a cisgender woman.

This is where we get into the uglier world of cisnormativity and transgender erasure. Over the years, Nintendo has slowly altered Samus’s design into a petite blond woman with large breasts. Finding her sexually attractive, some gamers are flat-out uncomfortable thinking about her as a transgender woman. As @ThatSabineGirl points out on Twitter, many gamers are incorrectly assuming she is cisgender simply from her gender presentation. The truth is, you can’t know if someone is transgender by simply looking at them.

Fans asking for ironclad proof of Samus’s apparent transition can suspend their disbelief enough to believe there are bird aliens that develop powersuits, but can’t believe a girl could declare her gender identity at a young age. Besides, this is the same canon that purposefully misgenders the main character in both the Western and Japanese manuals for the original NES release in order to keep her gender a ‘surprise’.

No matter what fans say, the intent of the creator is the only opinion that really matters. When J.K. Rowling announced that Dumbledore from Harry Potter was gay, that was the end of the discussion. Some fans couldn’t accept or understand it, but her public statement was the only source that mattered. It’s an authorial acknowledgement that this character, like any, can realistically be queer or transgender without it having to define them.

What’s the harm of giving the benefit of the doubt to one of the most marginalized communities in gaming? Gamer Aria Ehren correctly points out that assuming characters are cisgender and straight without a preponderance of evidence is erasure.

Queer gamers have seen the language used for gender variant characters like Poison, Birdo, and Vivian evolve over time. That there’s been so much discussion around a throwaway quote in a Metroid strategy guide shows how desperate LGBTQ gamers are to find faces and stories like their own in games. For many, confirmation from Nintendo or Matsuoka isn’t important – it’s that we allow space for everyone in these worlds we love.

I've been saying this!

duomo
Oct 9, 2007




Soiled Meat

of course he identifies more with KJU; neither one of them can’t keep their family alive

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


duomo posted:

of course he identifies more with KJU; neither one of them can’t keep their family alive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02hQql73_s8

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA

biceps crimes posted:

I will never read

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
gently caress Joe Biden! I hate him and his smarmy sunsetting shitheap of a brain! I hope he [REDACTED]! He really is a piece of poo poo!

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


reading turned me i;;m gay

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


FlapYoJacks posted:

gently caress Joe Biden! I hate him and his smarmy sunsetting shitheap of a brain! I hope he [REDACTED]! He really is a piece of poo poo!

bit harsh

Nitevision
Oct 5, 2004

Your Friendly FYAD Helper
Ask Me For FYAD Help
Another Reason To Talk To Me Is To Hangout

FlapYoJacks posted:

gently caress Joe Biden! I hate him and his smarmy sunsetting shitheap of a brain! I hope he [REDACTED]! He really is a piece of poo poo!

Looks like you've got some growing up to do.

SgtMongoose
Feb 10, 2007

Some Guy TT posted:

No matter what fans say, the intent of the creator is the only opinion that really matters.

Only part of that nonsense you need to read to simply go: lol, lmao.

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls

SixteenShells posted:

One thing I've noticed as well is that getting really into the geneneology of your family is something a LOT of middle class retirees do. Kids moved out long ago, you're feeling listless and purposeless, you don't have poo poo to do but putter around an empty house and dig through old records. Figuring out some interesting piece of your family history becomes part of your reason for getting up in the morning, because theres nothing much else to do.

lol my mom does this

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

rudecyrus posted:

lol my mom does this

My mother has chosen this path instead of therapy as well.

insane clown pussy
Jun 20, 2023

if you send in multiple samples from the same person to all those 23&me sites and tell them they're from different people you'll get different results because they just make up the percentages on the report, and that's not even how genetic tracing works

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002


free him

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

silicone thrills posted:

If you want to possibly find some hilarious family drama it can be fun.

My sister and I got our DNA done separately because we were specifically checking for macular degeneration and a specific cancer and the side drama became:

We have another half aunt now.
My sister is my half sister.

Also we both should have our ovaries and fallopian tubes removed basically as soon as we hit menopause due to a pretty horrific and fast acting cancer :( We both had this reconfirmed with a hospital geneticist and retested and all that jazz.

But nothing matters anyway so lol.

I'm sorry, what the gently caress

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


KomradeX posted:

I'm sorry, what the gently caress

i would like to know more

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
The ancestry in these dna tests is all nonsense. I did 3 separate companies preparing for a class activity where I teach about social construction of race. All 3 tests gave wildly different results. My great grandmother was either Charrua or Guarani (one of the Uruguayan tribes that was massacred, so we dont know which, as she was taken away and raised by a white family). One company said that that part of my DNA was Native American from North America. Another said "broadly eastern asian." And another said Laotian.

These tests try to compare to contemporary samples with a bunch of ad hoc modifications. If you are, say, a white guy from the upper midwest, the place where there are the most people with DNA similar to yours is the upper midwest. But no one wants to learn that they are just like a bunch of people where they already live. So you gotta suppress that.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply