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trufflefoo posted:Email is hilariously insecure and has a bunch of legacy things that may or may not make any sense in 2024 and modern expectations of how it should work. I can't imagine too many use cases where doing it that way round is safer or more user friendly for anyone, and seems like even having the option to do that makes the system so much more open to abuse.
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May 14, 2024 18:49
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A lot of features in computing are invented because somebody thinks "wow that would be convenient if considerate users could do X" and the person who invented it does not consider what would happen if someone who's a twat decided to use it. Kind of a microcosm of society. Becuase if you assume maximum hostility from everyone at all times then it becomes very hard to do anything. And then you invent bitcoin.
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May 14, 2024 18:52
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tildes posted:Was pointed here from LAN with this question: I know there are a couple law folk in the thread from time to time who can perhaps clarify better, but since nobody else has answered here is my understanding. There is not a law preventing reporting that disagrees with verdicts in general. In this particular case a judge has ordered that reporting should be restricted, presumably to avoid prejudicing a jury in the upcoming retrial on one of Letby's murder counts. I don't know what specifically is allowed to be reported or not, but I guess the New Yorker believes their piece crosses the threshold and they are preventing UK access to the piece on legal advice. Court orders like this are limited in scope: once the case is resolved in court restrictions will be dropped. Breaking a reporting restriction could lead to contempt charges, but I don't think anyone has been charged here.
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May 14, 2024 18:53
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If you want super hosed up UK media laws you want superinjunctions 
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May 14, 2024 18:56
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OwlFancier posted:A lot of features in computing are invented because somebody thinks "wow that would be convenient if considerate users could do X" and the person who invented it does not consider what would happen if someone who's a twat decided to use it. And the idea was that the famously insecure email could be used for considerate users to do X, doctors could encrypt your test results, or sign your prescription, etc. But because it was slightly more inconvenient than just sending an email, nobody except linux/maths nerds and paranoid libertarians used it, and that continues to be the case for encrypted email even though it's built into many email clients now.
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May 14, 2024 19:07
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Oh yeah there are applications for security, and with the advent of automation it becomes increasingly necessary to assume a hostile environment because there are a million malevolent daemons outside your field of vision trying to break into stuff. But still a lot of stuff still depends on social authentication.
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May 14, 2024 19:10
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That was probably the other reason for low adoption of PGP email. At some point if you want to be actually sure that the public key for your doctor Bob Medicine is actually him, the real person, you need either a central database run by an accountable public body, or you need to meet them in person. And the intersection of maths nerds and paranoid libertarians in the 80s was basically Ted Kaczynski, so lol at 'trusting a public body' or 'going outside to meet people'.
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May 14, 2024 19:16
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smellmycheese posted:Well I’m sure King Cheggers first official portrait will stop the “royals are bloodsoaked satanic lizards” brigade from continuing their conspiracy theories. Jesus Christ lol The Half Light King.
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May 14, 2024 19:21
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OwlFancier posted:A lot of features in computing are invented because somebody thinks "wow that would be convenient if considerate users could do X" and the person who invented it does not consider what would happen if someone who's a twat decided to use it. See the current Dublin / NYC "portal" fiasco for a topical example of this
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May 14, 2024 19:35
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smellmycheese posted:See the current Dublin / NYC "portal" fiasco for a topical example of this This is just banter and would be fine if everyone just stopped trying to make it a story and had a laugh instead
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May 14, 2024 19:52
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smellmycheese posted:Well I’m sure King Cheggers first official portrait will stop the “royals are bloodsoaked satanic lizards” brigade from continuing their conspiracy theories. Jesus Christ lol Very bright, very cheerful, something to put up in the kitchen.
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May 14, 2024 19:53
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Failed Imagineer posted:This is just banter and would be fine if everyone just stopped trying to make it a story and had a laugh instead
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May 14, 2024 19:55
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I was thinking someone's gonna get drunk and try to dive through it head first.
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May 14, 2024 19:56
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The magnificence of the free hand of capitalism in the global marketplace everyone
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May 14, 2024 20:23
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Biden just wants to make America great again.
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May 14, 2024 20:34
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100% tariff on cheap Chinese EVs to protect loving Musk and his dogshit Tesla’s. Hilarious
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May 14, 2024 20:38
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Joke's on him, that just means more semiconductors for the rest of us.
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May 14, 2024 20:39
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When the man who all the MAGA losers claim is a Communist (which is bad!) puts tariffs on the man who all the Characteristics for a New Era losers claim is a Communist (which is good!)
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May 14, 2024 20:41
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big scary monsters posted:I know there are a couple law folk in the thread from time to time who can perhaps clarify better, but since nobody else has answered here is my understanding. I see, ty- that does make more sense than some general law stopping this kind of reporting even if it still seems super restrictive to me. Also realized I had missed the previous two pages of chat about it.
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May 14, 2024 21:12
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Again seriously look up superinjunctions if you want some real horror laws lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-injunctions_in_English_law
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May 14, 2024 21:13
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Bobby Deluxe posted:What's supposed to happen is if you have name@gmail.com, you're supposed to be able to enter name-suffix@gmail or name.suffix@gmail (or even namesuffix@gmail.com) I'm sure this has been addressed in the pages since (I haven't got to them yet) but surely you can't believe that name@gmail.com is the same as namesuffix@gmail.com Otherwise jo@gmail.com would be getting all the emails meant for jonathon@gmail.com And so would j@gmail.com
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May 14, 2024 21:22
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Microplastics posted:I'm sure this has been addressed in the pages since (I haven't got to them yet) but surely you can't believe that name@gmail.com is the same as namesuffix@gmail.com Oh I missed that one. It's name+suffix@gmail that gets you to the same email as name@gmail (with a + sign between the name and the suffix) I use it for various things not just with gmail but also yahoo and outlook (especially our work emails which ride on outlook).
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May 14, 2024 21:41
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Odds are on him revealing Theresa May as Labour convert
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May 14, 2024 22:12
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be proper funny if it's blair and then it completely loving tanks the polls
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May 14, 2024 22:17
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Also a lot of places don’t allow you to use email addresses with a + even though it’s explicitly part of the email spec  I bought my own domain for email and use SimpleLogin instead. Of the hundreds of unique emails I’ve generated for things I think the only place that has actually sold my address to spammers is the US government, lol
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May 14, 2024 22:18
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I'm guessing Will Quince. Small majority, former minister, looks like a prick.
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May 14, 2024 22:18
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Ed Stone makes a surprise return!
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May 14, 2024 22:24
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"I am now calling it the Key-th Stone!"
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May 14, 2024 22:25
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Rory Stewart is an ex minister…
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May 14, 2024 22:25
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I'd vote for him being home sec if he makes laudanum legal again.
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May 14, 2024 22:27
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All you firstname.lastname@gmail.com people. The true move is firstname.middlename.lastname@gmail.com (Flexes and turns into organic steel.)
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May 14, 2024 22:30
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Nuclear Spoon posted:be proper funny if it's blair and then it completely loving tanks the polls Nah, it's George Osborne instead. LAB +20 though because Tory voters are on strike.
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May 14, 2024 22:54
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smellmycheese posted:Odds are on him revealing Theresa May as Labour convert ooh he's got some pledges, does he? nothing more valuable than that, a Keir Starmer pledge or is he just calling them "missions" now. probably for the best. "missions" don't mean you promise you'll actually do them, just that you'll sort of be aware of them as a thing you should probably do.
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May 15, 2024 00:00
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it's going to be braverman
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May 15, 2024 00:02
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keep punching joe posted:I'm guessing Will Quince. Small majority, former minister, looks like a prick. If we're assuming that the event is in Essex due to it being an Essex constituency defection from an ex-minister, then it could also be the following MPs: Rebecca Harris, Vicky Ford, Robert Halfon, John Whittingdale, James Duddridge, Jackie Doyle-Price. None of them have a majority as low as Will Quince, and he is standing down at the next election, which does the fit the trend for defectors. Then there are the comedy options, which are Mark Francois and Priti Patel.
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May 15, 2024 00:03
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some new bollocks come round the corner https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1790496211692138698 it is an affront to God to make any Tweet longer than 140 characters posted:New schools guidance in full with @breeallegretti quote:Staff will be explicitly told to avoid proactively teaching children about gender identity. If asked, they should teach "biological" facts about sex. embedding it as an uncontested falsehood is fine though, apparently Angepain fucked around with this message at 00:10 on May 15, 2024 |
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May 15, 2024 00:05
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I did not have a partial comeback of section 28 but for trans people on my political bingo for the week.
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May 15, 2024 00:13
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The Tories probably think they're getting in an early salvo in this culture war. Sadly, this is the kind of stupidity Keith and his gang of irredeemable cunts think is just fine.
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May 15, 2024 00:20
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This makes me sick. One of my nans and her 5 siblings were abandoned by her mother (father had died in WW1) when she was some indeterminate age around 11 and knew nothing about anything. Anyway, she got pregnant around 16 years old and when she was 'due' she said to the nurse "but where does it come out?" and the nurse said "same way it went in" and my nan said "but where was that?" absolutely no idea. (My grandad married her but wasn't the father of the baby - felt it was his christian duty). Kids need to know about this stuff - 8 or 9 IMHO (ok I see it says from age 9 in that article snippet but I mean also about contraception etc) - some girls start periods at 8, nowadays 8 year olds have 'boyfriends' - when I was 8, girls hated boys & vv. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 00:29 on May 15, 2024 |
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May 15, 2024 00:25
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Alright, I am confused as gently caress and apologising to History and Piano Chimp.  quote:
The mailing list one could simply be they wrote the address down at the actual place or gave it to them when making a booking, or any number of other reasons they could have given it directly to the place, and so it was manually added which bypasses a confirmation step. It’s low-tech but not unheard of. The other email (like basically all of them) is almost certainly just someone fat-fingering things in the address fields and then ‘correcting’ it by further fat-fingering it. History Comes Inside! fucked around with this message at 04:29 on May 15, 2024 |
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