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birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
just vaccinate everyone

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Cpt Soban
Jul 23, 2011

StrangeThing posted:

If there is anything the lockdown in Melbourne has taught me, it's that the leftists who exclaimed support for abolition of police last year are perfectly fine with:

- The existence of cops
- Those same cops punishing people for breaking laws
- Rationing healthcare based on morals

You guys are absolutely hosed. I'd be much more tolerant of you if you just admitted that you're fascists.

I'm a "lefty" and I fully support all the above points.

There's two brands of loony left: Authleft (ALP and the extreme being communism) and Libleft (Greens and the extreme being teepee sitting hippy happy clappers)

ColtMcAsskick
Nov 7, 2010

Cpt Soban posted:

There's two brands of loony left: Authleft (ALP and the extreme being communism) and Libleft (Greens and the extreme being teepee sitting hippy happy clappers)

How dare you erase my incredibly specific brand of leftism you reactionary/capitalist roader/trotskyite

ColtMcAsskick
Nov 7, 2010
Cross posting from CSPAM because it's funny as gently caress. Also because the continued US right wing meltdown over Australia has the potential to actually have a material effect on our politics down the line, i.e: lobbying/financing attempts to free us from this tyranny.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018


GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
I know from a purely political compass view they're libertarians but I think this analysis vastly over simplifies how much hippies are desperate for the right kind of authoritarianism

actually now that I say it out loud they're perfect libertarians

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

The MAGA meltdown over Australian tyranny is pretty funny now that nowhere in this country is in lockdown. Take it up with Latvia, fellas.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
I hope they claim the win.

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer
Melburnians should thank Ted Cruz for his tireless lobbying on our behalf

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
The US invading Australia is the funniest time line

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


erecting shiny new White Castles in the place of our once-proud Barnacle Bills

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
I wonder how Scott Morrison with his conspiracy-believing buddy feels when he's being painted as the architect of totalitarianism in the country when all he's ever wanted to do was open the country up to business as usual and milk it to get another term in office.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
Didn't a bunch of outbreaks already happen from US military installations, in like the NT and South Korea

Bio-terrosim!

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

TheLastRoboKy posted:

I wonder how Scott Morrison with his conspiracy-believing buddy feels when he's being painted as the architect of totalitarianism in the country when all he's ever wanted to do was open the country up to business as usual and milk it to get another term in office.

If the federal government didn't divest literally all responsibility maybe he'd have done it. Ah well.

SecretOfSteel
Apr 29, 2007

The secret of steel has always
carried with it a mystery.

ColtMcAsskick posted:

Cross posting from CSPAM because it's funny as gently caress. Also because the continued US right wing meltdown over Australia has the potential to actually have a material effect on our politics down the line, i.e: lobbying/financing attempts to free us from this tyranny.

"literally imprisoned against their will" ...what is that even supposed to mean?

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer

SecretOfSteel posted:

"literally imprisoned against their will" ...what is that even supposed to mean?

I assume lockdowns, curfews and it being difficult to get a flight out of the country

SecretOfSteel
Apr 29, 2007

The secret of steel has always
carried with it a mystery.

EoinCannon posted:

I assume lockdowns, curfews and it being difficult to get a flight out of the country

Oh of course. Nevermind me, I'm having a Friday moment...

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
In 13 minutes I will slam my laptop shut, go across the road to a bar and get absolutely loving blind.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.

JBP posted:

In 13 minutes I will slam my laptop shut, go across the road to a bar and get absolutely loving blind.
I have my second shot tomorrow this is bullshit.

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer

JBP posted:

In 13 minutes I will slam my laptop shut, go across the road to a bar and get absolutely loving blind.

Jealous

I live in the bit of Melbourne with no pubs, thanks a lot teetotaler arseholes

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before

Launchpad McQuack posted:

Wow, you guys are loving cooked. If you call, I will come . Vaxxers or not vaxxed. I don't give a poo poo. poo poo behind your keyboard dishing out bullshit hate to the ether. I have real tangible stuff to do.

I can't work out if you guys were bullied too much at school or not enough.

I am going with not enough.

lol at this absolute meltdown for yet another right wing crybaby

do you know how stupid and whiny you sound but you power through anyway, or is there some full disassociation thing going down?

Also tomorrow night we're having a party and I am going to have far too much to drink

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?
I knocked off work 20 Mins early to catch the train into the city for the first time in 4 and a half months. gonna get poo poo faced at the Lord Gladstone

Cpt Soban
Jul 23, 2011

ColtMcAsskick posted:

How dare you erase my incredibly specific brand of leftism you reactionary/capitalist roader/trotskyite

I'll have you know I'm a moderate Leninist Menshevik early Trotskyist Democratic Socialist Communist

freebooter posted:

The MAGA meltdown over Australian tyranny is pretty funny now that nowhere in this country is in lockdown. Take it up with Latvia, fellas.


"Mask and vaccine mandates are still PoLiCe StAtE!!"

fappenmeister
Nov 19, 2004

My hand wields the might

It feels like the last Friday before Christmas today in Melbourne, but I'm sitting here drinking at home like a goon. Enjoy and be safe.

Sierra Madre
Dec 24, 2011

But getting to it. That's not the hard part.

It's letting go.

snoremac posted:

I have my second shot tomorrow this is bullshit.

Same here, friend. Ah well, I hope everyone enjoys their hard-won night out!

slorb
May 14, 2002
One thing that came up with covid triage overseas is that some US hospital systems had preplanned triage/crisis standards of care systems that never got activated because they required health emergency declarations that never got issued.

It's a bad look politically to admit the hospitals in your area are turning sick people away, so some state governors just refused to admit it was happening.

The hospitals were literally full so the triage still occurred, but because it was unofficial there were no bioethicists or commitees to issue recommendations or make rulings, all the tough decisions and moral injury fell on individual doctors.

I really hope that doesn't happen here.

Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

Tommunist posted:

The US invading Australia is the funniest time line

The Grand Theft Auto timeline.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Looking forward to them pulling a disheveled Andrews out of a hole in the Dandenongs in a few years time.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

EoinCannon posted:

I live in the bit of Melbourne with no pubs, thanks a lot teetotaler arseholes

And people were trying to defend Australia as not being a totalitarian dictatorship

The US invasion can not come soon enough :colbert:

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Anybody else still avoiding restaurants and bars etc until (if) case numbers die down? My partner's immunocompromised so I know I'm not going to be the norm (and as much as I feel FOMO I don't begrudge anybody else their end of lockdown joy) but I'm curious how many people in the general populace are still keen to avoid catching it, especially after we've spent so long being conditioned to fear it and strive for elimination.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
I am standing fast against temptation (I couldn't get a booking for the pub)

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer

dr_rat posted:

And people were trying to defend Australia as not being a totalitarian dictatorship

The US invasion can not come soon enough :colbert:

Melbourne's dry zone of North Balwyn down to Ashburton is a dictatorship of busybodies, we could do with some regime change.

Chadzok
Apr 25, 2002

Does that have to be, like, actively avoiding or can it also be just a natural consequence of the pandemic destroying the final frayed ends of my social life?

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

dr_rat posted:

And people were trying to defend Australia as not being a teetotalitarian dictatorship

The US invasion can not come soon enough :colbert:

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

EoinCannon posted:

Melbourne's dry zone of North Balwyn down to Ashburton is a dictatorship of busybodies, we could do with some regime change.

My wife got fined for not voting in a liquor licence poll lol

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

EoinCannon posted:

Melbourne's dry zone of North Balwyn down to Ashburton is a dictatorship of busybodies, we could do with some regime change.

Born and raised there. gently caress that poo poo.

Solemn Sloth posted:

My wife got fined for not voting in a liquor licence poll lol

Same. Was traveling around at the time so wasn't getting mail. They didn't think that was a good enough excuses. It was literally, just should a local cafe get a liquor license. Like I think mandatory showing up a voting place is a good thing to avoid exclusionary bs like you see in the states and what not, but like really?

gently caress that poo poo. Particularly as there were so many much more important decision made i wouldn't of minded a vote that they didn't give.

Arbitrary bullshit.

ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010
So are we going to end up like the UK (50000 cases a day with 80% adult vaccination, hospital system collapsing, talking about reimposing more restrictions again) or Singapore (4000 cases with 80% total population vaccination, maybe not as big of a widespread social disaster but still enough for the hospital system to be overwhelmed and return to more restrictions)? The tone of reporting suggests the UK is doing worse than Singapore but per capita the case numbers and deaths are similar between the two.

Maybe the latter (I think Australian vaccination is on a trajectory to surpass the UK, and we have marginally less dysfunctional public policy even from the LNP) but it's not exactly something to look forward to.

Iceland and Portugal seem to be doing ok, but not sure what it would take to replicate that experience.

ModernMajorGeneral fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Oct 22, 2021

evilbastard
Mar 6, 2003

Hair Elf

Tommunist posted:

The US invading Australia is the funniest time line

I guess they are looking for round 2, after we won the first series.

09 May 1942 (Townsville - The Mutiny of the 96th Battalion)
26–27 November 1942 (Battle of Brisbane)
01 December 1942 (Melbourne)
December 1942 (Rockhampton)
December 1942 (Mount Isa)
06 February 1943 (Bondi)
13 February 1943 (Melbourne)
January 1944 (Perth)
April 1944 (Fremantle)

03 April 1943 (Wellington NZ)
April 1943 (Auckland NZ)
12 May 1945 (Wellington NZ)
October 1943 (Otaki, NZ)

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

Anybody not familiar with the Battle of Brisbane should read about it.

Absolute insanity.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
I remember learning about it in school and it was like yeah we didn't get along, then years later finding out there were refugees who had to flee Australia because of it

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evilbastard
Mar 6, 2003

Hair Elf
The Kelso/Townsville mutiny of 1942 was partially covered up until a report was found in 2012, but that report references a second report that describes punishments.

The aftermath is rumoured to be that southern white officers (who were the ones who were behind the instigating racism-based lockdown) performed summary executions of the ringleaders before shipping everyone else off to Papua New Guinea.

But no-one has been able to find the report.

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