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PostNouveau posted:That's why he wanted Data dead at the end of Nemesis. It was becoming more and more silly to pretend Data's ageless. They don't even have to explain it! Just have him show up looking old and don't have anyone react to it. Fans would eat up the mystery.
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Lester Shy posted:I'm surprised they didn't bring back Data as a hologram or have him be the voice of the computer on Picard's new ship or something. De-aging Spiner is a weird choice. I bet it will just be for one scene in the pilot. A mostly static shot of him playing poker, old gut hidden by the table. Though... I don't see any reason he couldn't be the computer. Actually, at this stage, I'm not ruling anything out. If you told me a year ago loving Seven of Nine would appear in the show, I would have called bullshit. This trailer is kind of promising to tick off a wish-list of 24th century damage control. Seven is back but not as a sex object, Data is back but (mostly) not as an old fat man in pancake makeup, Picard is back but potentially not as a 2nd-rate action hero, the TNG story doesn't actually end with Nemesis...
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I never in a million years thought they would bring back 7 of 9 for this show so I legit gasped when Jeri Ryan appeared. Cautiously optimistic
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7 having a semi-antagonistic relationship with Picard because of both their Borg baggage may be the best thing about this. We didn't get to see the incredibly awkward meeting of these two characters after Voyager's finale for good reasons, but maybe they'll talk about it.
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Pablo Nergigante posted:I never in a million years thought they would bring back 7 of 9 for this show so I legit gasped when Jeri Ryan appeared. Cautiously optimistic B4 is a lousy Data prototype that is rapidly deteriorating or unlike Data was programmed to age. Bang, done.
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Surely this will be the TNG property where Picard and Q finally hook up
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I bet it will just be for one scene in the pilot. A mostly static shot of him playing poker, old gut hidden by the table. This is my belief as well. It sounds like they didn’t plan on having B4/Data on the show at all until Stewart asked Spiner to come back, so it’ll probably just be one or two scenes and that’s it. My guess is that B4 is at some facility being studied and Picard visits him regularly to maintain some link to his old life.
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Sash! posted:Turns out that I, too, suffer from physical deterioration on human time scales. Didn't he spend a few centuries in some basement in america at one point?
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Fascinating that Seven doesn’t have the Borg speech patterns anymore. 20 years of Earth must’ve chilled her out.
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CJ posted:Didn't he spend a few centuries in some basement in america at one point? Yeah just his head. Like 500 years.
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Gonz posted:Fascinating that Seven doesn’t have the Borg speech patterns anymore. 20 years of Earth must’ve chilled her out. She had a (subtle) arc on Voyager about getting more human, it seems natural.
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Davros1 posted:Looking at this screenshot, wonder if they put Spiner in the makeup, then attempted to use CGI to "de-age" him. De-aging Data is one of the most justified uses of the technology ever yet they still hosed it up
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I don't mean to be a spoilsport but that is not gonna be good and I'd like someone to quote this and praise me when it happens
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Maybe that's why it's been delayed to 2020, to perfect the 1 minute of Data on screen.
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Jewel Repetition posted:I don't mean to be a spoilsport but that is not gonna be good and I'd like someone to quote this and praise me when it happens You should start a patreon and review it
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Big Mean Jerk posted:You should start a patreon and review it I'm glad at least someone remembers me
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If it is just a couple of scenes then surely they could have CGIed him? It's ok if he looks weird because he's not human.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:She had a (subtle) arc on Voyager about getting more human, it seems natural. I wonder if they'll do something like either she or Picard insist on calling her Annika and the other insisting on Seven. They can actually play it either way, either Picard won't use the Borg name but she feels it's her identity after so many years, or she's reclaimed her humanity fully but Jean-Luc can't fully let go of his hatred of the Borg and she reminds him of it, a la Hugh.
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I'm not saying it'll be bad because of Data by the way. It's the whole shebang
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Jewel Repetition posted:De-aging Data is one of the most justified uses of the technology ever yet they still hosed it up Good enough for me; as far as Data is concerned I'm okay with him looking sort of weird, intentionally or not. (I actually think it looks kind of good; I mean, he doesn't look like 90's Spiner, but actually better than he did in Nemesis.)
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Jewel Repetition posted:I don't mean to be a spoilsport but that is not gonna be good and I'd like someone to quote this and praise me when it happens You aren't excited to see Picard hide River Tam from the Borg on the Serenity?
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Wtf is that thing about Data sacrificing himself for Picard
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Jewel Repetition posted:Wtf is that thing about Data sacrificing himself for Picard The film Star Trek Nemesis.
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Jewel Repetition posted:Wtf is that thing about Data sacrificing himself for Picard Data took the blame for the Enterprise D crashing in Generations, keeping Picard from being demoted.
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Gaz-L posted:The film Star Trek Nemesis. Hoo doggies
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My first thought was that Data looks bad, but then I remembered he was an android, and that look is actually sort of fitting. I really hope the twist isn't that the girl is secretly the new borg queen or something. That'd be really lame.
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Jewel Repetition posted:De-aging Data is one of the most justified uses of the technology ever yet they still hosed it up It's weird as hell how you can see there's old man bags under his eyes that they just blurred out. But if it is just for one scene, I don't mind so much, I'll be too busy crying. Also  at the eagle screech at the very start of the trailer. It's a loving vineyard, not the Grand Canyon.
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Trailer CGI is usually unfinished so I would wager Data is, you know, unfinished.
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Jewel Repetition posted:Hoo doggies  (Source.)
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The obvious solution is for him to say he's decided to age up his dermis and then maybe he'll swap it for a newer model after a human lifetime. Bam! New actor whenever Spiner feels like giving up the part.
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davidspackage posted:It's weird as hell how you can see there's old man bags under his eyes that they just blurred out. But if it is just for one scene, I don't mind so much, I'll be too busy crying. I live at the bottom of a steep hill near a creek in an apartment next to a large field with a forest on its perimeter, and there are some falcons or eagles which like to perch on the telephone poles and make those kinds of noises. I'm not an ornithologist and the cry of a falcon does sound different from an eagle, but it didn't really bother me. edit: I'll probably wait until several seasons of this show are out to watch it, given that I just got done watching Voyager this year, regardless of the show's quality galenanorth fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Jul 20, 2019 |
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It’d be wild if they dug up Brian Brophy and had him playing Bruce Maddox as the researcher working on B4. Looked it up and the dude’s only 60.
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I'm glad I took the thread's advice and didn't watch this
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For the longest time it was the only Star Trek movie that AMC would run. Guess it was the cheapest to license and fill blank spaces in the schedule.
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poo poo I'm hyped. My theory is that the girl is Lal somehow.
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Put me in the "this looks bad" camp. Better than Disco, maybe, but barely. Same boring Kurtzman aesthetic we've had for years, flippy wirefu action, an incredibly tired "chosen one" "save the galaxy" overarching plot... no thanks.
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marktheando posted:poo poo I'm hyped. That's what I thought but since no one said anything I felt I'd look dumb. Also the borg nanite girl sounds more plausible so maybe it is dumb. In that case, haha look at you, you look dumb!
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