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I joined the DSA like a couple hours ago. What's the official position on Cop Rock?
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Halloween Jack posted:I joined the DSA like a couple hours ago. What's the official position on Cop Rock? at risk of being purged, Cop Rock is the greatest show to ever come out of the 90s. edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPk966PuQNE
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Aug 29, 2017 20:03
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Zenos Paradise posted:National Physique Committee? The newest Cumtown had a bit about Joe Arpaio and they started talking about the militarization of the police. And Nick had a sober moment about how the idea of a shaved headed officer decked out like SWAT would never have crossed his mind as a child in the 90's. It's pretty hosed up how fast America broke it's own brain after 9/11
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Aug 29, 2017 20:49
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has anyone considered barbecuing fat-boy fetonte
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Aug 29, 2017 20:53
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rudatron posted:Do you guys think bylaws and such are just totally irrelevant, to be ignored when it's convenient? It's not the role of the NPC to creatively interpret resolutions and bylaws, until they reach the outcome that the people yelling at them want them to reach: it's their job to follow a procedure, to the best of their ability. That's it. They've done that. That's the most you can expect. Yup
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Aug 29, 2017 20:59
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Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat; 3 therefore, do whatever they teach you and follow it; but do not do as they do, for they do not practice what they teach. 4 They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear,[a] and lay them on the shoulders of others; but they themselves are unwilling to lift a finger to move them.
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Aug 29, 2017 21:10
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good example historically there arent rules that you're supposed to follow in the christian religion
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Aug 29, 2017 21:16
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Creative bending of established guidelines is more of a Jewish thing but we kicked them all out when we started the "Death to Israel" chant at the con
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Aug 29, 2017 21:18
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Oh are we posting Bible verses? Here's my favorite.Judges 15:16 posted:And Samson saith, 'With a jaw-bone of the rear end -- an rear end upon asses -- with a jaw-bone of the rear end I have smitten a thousand men.'
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Aug 29, 2017 21:24
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Vhak lord of hate posted:Creative bending of established guidelines is more of a Jewish thing but we kicked them all out when we started the "Death to Israel" chant at the con lol what you love colonialism and apartheid? what kind of a leftist are you? also nobody said death to Israel they said free palestine and voted to support boycotting apartheid, if you dont like it you can eat poo poo.
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Aug 29, 2017 21:24
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TrilliontonNixon posted:Oh are we posting Bible verses? Here's my favorite. thats pretty good but its old testament
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Aug 29, 2017 21:27
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it's extremely cool that the argument against danny has evolved from him being a cop to him working with cop unions to him not disclosing his work with cop unions to his response to the hysteria about the aforementioned arguments. no wonder you can't get rid of him.
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Aug 29, 2017 21:30
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im pretty sure it was "he works and builds up cops" the whole time, and him being a huge jackass now is just like, expected
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Aug 29, 2017 21:35
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then maybe you should have some sort of rule against unionising cops i dunno. seems like a straightforward way to kick him out if he breaks that rule
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Aug 29, 2017 21:36
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Al-Saqr posted:lol what you love colonialism and apartheid? what kind of a leftist are you? Actually I believe the vote was too "push Jewish babies into the ocean" and everyone voted for it. Please don't talk aboit the con if you weren't there and didn't participate in Torah burning
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Aug 29, 2017 21:41
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R. Mute posted:then maybe you should have some sort of rule against unionising cops i dunno. seems like a straightforward way to kick him out if he breaks that rule probably will in the future, but right now we are talking about the present
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Aug 29, 2017 21:41
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:probably will in the future, but right now we are talking about the present
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Aug 29, 2017 21:49
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how someone responds to adversity and division within the party is a pretty good criterion for whether they're suited to a leadership position imo
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Aug 29, 2017 21:50
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R. Mute posted:guess fetonte should stay then it think they should remove them, because lack of foresight is not a good reason for inaction
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Aug 29, 2017 21:51
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jarofpiss posted:drat we're at 60k is there a link for this or something by the way
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Aug 29, 2017 21:54
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:it think they should remove them, because lack of foresight is not a good reason for inaction don't think that'll work out
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Aug 29, 2017 21:56
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Vhak lord of hate posted:Actually I believe the vote was too "push Jewish babies into the ocean" and everyone voted for it. Please don't talk aboit the con if you weren't there and didn't participate in Torah burning Fuuuuuuuuck I thought that was the dead sea scrolls, can I have a recount? Stinky_Pete has issued a correction as of 22:00 on Aug 29, 2017 |
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Aug 29, 2017 21:57
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GoluboiOgon posted:Mind if I ask a question about police abolition? When I hear the term, the first thing i think of is Paul Bremer firing all of the Baathist police and officers in Iraq, and how many of the fired Baathists joined ISIS. Obviously the current police system is terrible and must be changed, but I fear that completely eliminating the police will lead to a large pool of unemployed racists used to abusing authority, and create some sort of Freikorps/Klan hybrid. The stated goals in the DSA platform all involve police/criminal justice reforms (and are great), but is police abolition even possible? Bremer was a loving idiot and it's easy to avoid making his mistakes. It's conceivable that most rank-and-file police will be incorporated into the new not-police organization after some retraining. The cops who won't are chiefs, commanders, supervisors, sergeants -- anyone who set or enforced the organizational priorities of the police as it exists today. Those positions would be filled by trusted comrades with a commitment to good "policing" practices and authentic justice. The whole organization would be working with a new mandate, a new rulebook, and a clean slate of institutional practices. Call it reform if you really want to, but you're looking at a fundamentally different institution when all is said and done.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:00
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Vhak lord of hate posted:Creative bending of established guidelines is more of a Jewish thing but we kicked them all out when we started the "Death to Israel" chant at the con Oh some of us are still around. Not every Jew is a fan of Israel.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:06
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R. Mute posted:seems like you'd first have to win a vote to declare unionising cops bad, prevent people who unionised cops from holding leadership positions, apply this rule retroactively i dont think you'd have to do any of those things, i think those are things you just made up
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Aug 29, 2017 22:31
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Vhak lord of hate posted:Creative bending of established guidelines is more of a Jewish thing but we kicked them all out when we started the "Death to Israel" chant at the con 
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Aug 29, 2017 22:34
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:i dont think you'd have to do any of those things, i think those are things you just made up
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Aug 29, 2017 22:38
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I kind of want to know why anyone cares though. What exactly can National even do. Besides take your dues money or revoke your chapter I guess. It's not like they can stop your membership from doing anything.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:40
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R. Mute posted:you can't just assume the entire dsa agrees with those things and they do seem like the prerequisite to have a case against fetonte. so a vote. a large majorite of elected representatives feel a way and they should act accordingly. a broad vote is unnecessary and obstructionist, a ridiculous hurdle
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Aug 29, 2017 22:41
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oh hey in case you didnt notice Apartheid supporters are huge pieces of poo poo who will lie and do whatever it takes to protect their ethno-nationalist agenda including making up insane smears against people who call them out for their bullshit.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:41
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Larry Parrish posted:I kind of want to know why anyone cares though. What exactly can National even do. Besides take your dues money or revoke your chapter I guess. It's not like they can stop your membership from doing anything. i mean the dues money is pretty big, especially with how little money locals get from dues
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Aug 29, 2017 22:42
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:a large majorite of elected representatives feel a way and they should act accordingly.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:44
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I was told at this weekend's chapter meeting that 0% of the money you pay in dues is automatically distributed to them.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:45
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Hey so wow man $60K for hurricane relief raised that's great and- 
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Aug 29, 2017 22:46
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R. Mute posted:do they? if only there was a way to reliably figure out what a large group of people want yeah they (the npc) voted on and released statement arguments (even if they arent well distributed) so you can count exactly
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Aug 29, 2017 22:47
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Al-Saqr posted:oh hey in case you didnt notice Apartheid supporters are huge pieces of poo poo who will lie and do whatever it takes to protect their ethno-nationalist agenda including making up insane smears against people who call them out for their bullshit. Is this a "all jews support israel" post because it sure sounds like it
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Aug 29, 2017 22:47
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didnt realize this was the "tier 1 gbs sarcasm"-toned socratic questioning thread
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it's the struggle session thread
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