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sarmhan posted:And again, town halls are Hillary's best format. It was her best primary debate, it's the event type she prefers to do on the campaign trail. She is good at listening to, emphasizing with, and speaking to people's problems. Formal debates are her weaker point, because she isn't great at delivering prepared lines. Even though Trump was a reality TV star, he basically just sat in a big chair and yelled at people. I don't think he knows anything about camera placement or how to be dynamic in a town hall setting. I think if he gets off the stool and starts making those hand-wavey motions of his while standing around without a podium or microphone in front of him, he's going to look like a mentally disturbed homeless person that people purposefully avoid eye contact with and walk past as quickly as possible.
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Mozi posted:Replace 'two years' with 'three decades' and you're more on track. Yeah that too but his primary run is where this absurd idea he's this political maverick out-maneuvering the elites from outside the system started when in reality he's just coasting on white rage because he's too much of a dumbass to understand dog whistling and a lot of white people really want to be racist in public without getting called on it. Inferior Third Season posted:Hillary also knows things like where to stand with respect to the camera to get individual audience member reactions she wants in the shot, and what kinds of body movements she should and should not make, etc. Bill was a master at this. Trump on his show was a prop. It's become clear he knows nothing of running a successful business and is just a con-artist, albeit a high profile one. He was basically a cartoon character of the monopoly guy as a standin for a generic "rich New York boss." Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Oct 7, 2016 |
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Eifert Posting posted:At this point I honestly can't imagine an event that could cause me to worry about the outcome of the presidency. It's an immortal lock. PPP's giant doom meteor arrives.
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haveblue posted:PPP's giant doom meteor arrives. And it gets elected president?
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Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:Wonder what oppo bomb Hillary has for next week. It's going to be Gilbert Gottfried's joke from the Bob Saget roast.
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Highly humourous, the idea that somehow Trump will just do better at the second debate, just because? What that we've seen from him thus far even remotely shows that he is capable of such self reflection? He spent two weeks whining about how unfair the last debate was, and you think somehow he's buckling down and prepping extra hard this time? Based on what evidence? Never underestimate this man's ability to keep finding new bottom below what you thought was his bottom.
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Radish posted:Yeah that too but his primary run is where this absurd idea he's this political maverick out-maneuvering the elites from outside the system started when in reality he's just coasting on white rage because he's too much of a dumbass to understand dog whistling and a lot of white people really want to be racist in public without getting called on it. Trump is the only person I could think of who is both dumb and arrogant enough to genuinely not realize that the racism he's based his campaign around is the real reason he's gotten this far instead of any skill or appeal. Geostomp fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Oct 7, 2016 |
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I mean I admit after the disastrous first debate he has an impressively low bar to meet but it's not like he's given any indication he learned from that experience or put in any effort this time.Geostomp posted:Trump is the only person I could think of who is both dumb and arrogant enough to genuinely not realize that the racism he's based his campaign around is not actually the real reason he's gotten this far instead of any skill or appeal. Yeah I'm sure he's totally convinced he's amazing at this and is a lock to win. The way he's treating these debates is someone that is so confident they are just a formality he's doing to please the guys paying for his campaign and don't actually matter.
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haveblue posted:PPP's giant doom meteor arrives. If it's the meteor from Nameless, then gently caress it. Let's party *phone posting so insert "where we're going we don't need eyes" emote* In other news I just got into a twitter fight with a rando on twitter. http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/5/voter-fraud-is-real-and-its-happening-now/ The ads suck so hard on this page that it won't let me scroll down. But it's about voter fraud. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Oct 7, 2016 |
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There's also a non-zero chance of him getting in another fight with the moderators.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:There's also a non-zero chance of him getting in another fight with the moderators. I'm hoping he starts correcting the town hall people that are undoubtedly better informed than he is again.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:There's also a non-zero chance of him getting in another fight with the moderators. Not just the moderator, the questioners.
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Trump is going to passive aggressively insult an everyday American asking a question and that'll be the headline/narrative until the end of time
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Guy Goodbody posted:Not just the moderator, the questioners. The questioners get the mic, ask the question, then have it taken from them. He can still insult or gaff up his response to the questioners, but he can't get into an actual fight / dialogue with them.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Not just the moderator, the questioners. Trump will get a moderately pointed question then go off on a twitter storm against the questioner for 5 days after the debate is over. Possibly involving a non-existent sex tape.
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my hope beyond hope is that they managed to get someone he ripped off in the audience
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lozzle posted:Trump will get a moderately pointed question then go off on a twitter storm against the questioner for 5 days after the debate is over. Possibly involving a non-existent sex tape. (check out sex tape and past) can never be topped
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Night10194 posted:I can empathize with worrying about a really important event even if it's very likely to go well. I don't think the guy's trolling, just nervous. I mean, look how nervous we were before the first one. You even mentioned you feared the real possibility of 'vallium trump'. I'll cop to this. I was so anxious I couldn't even watch the debate. I read about it in real time but I was so nervous that watching him hosed with me. Also listening to his voice (when he yells) just sets my teeth on edge. If I do it for too long when he's yelling I feeling that fight/flight/freeze response rising. Phone posted:C-c-correct. Hahahaha
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The questioners get the mic, ask the question, then have it taken from them. He can still insult or gaff up his response to the questioners, but he can't get into an actual fight / dialogue with them. You sure? I see a distinct possibility Trump goes "Get that person back on the mic, I wanna ask em something!"
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WampaLord posted:You sure? I see a distinct possibility Trump goes "Get that person back on the mic, I wanna ask em something!" Nah, he won't do that. He'll correct them on whatever they asked -- like he did the veteran -- Hillary will pounce and he'll melt down all over again. Alternately he'll be really subdued and drugged out, sitting oafishly in the corner.
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disjoe posted:Trump is going to passive aggressively insult an everyday American asking a question and that'll be the headline/narrative until the end of time Yeah, and him being mean to Anderson Cooper or Hillary will be the liebrals getting their due, but if he's mean or dismissive to a questioner, that's not going to look good. Of course, with bad enough screening, Clinton could end up doing the same if she got ambushed like she did with the superpredators comment back in the primary. But I doubt such a person would even make it anywhere near the mic much less get the question out.
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Geostomp posted:I still don't see what they hope to accomplish by continuing to block Garland. It isn't making them look any better, win more cases, and it won't make Trump any more likely to win. So why continue to waste time and money on this ridiculous nine-month stunt? A 5-4 liberal SCOTUS is game changing -- until Scalia kicked it the GOP was passing their national agenda through 5-4 SCOTUS decisions. Citizens United and gutting the Voting Rights Act saved the party (short term, until Trump came around) and losing the court now means that progressives and liberals can start rolling those decisions back. Also, abortion and gun rights.
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foobardog posted:Yeah, and him being mean to Anderson Cooper or Hillary will be the liebrals getting their due, but if he's mean or dismissive to a questioner, that's not going to look good. Of course, with bad enough screening, Clinton could end up doing the same if she got ambushed like she did with the superpredators comment back in the primary. But I doubt such a person would even make it anywhere near the mic much less get the question out. "Hillary why do you hate Pepe?" is about the only question I see getting snuck in.
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foobardog posted:Yeah, and him being mean to Anderson Cooper or Hillary will be the liebrals getting their due, but if he's mean or dismissive to a questioner, that's not going to look good. Of course, with bad enough screening, Clinton could end up doing the same if she got ambushed like she did with the superpredators comment back in the primary. But I doubt such a person would even make it anywhere near the mic much less get the question out. She got "ambushed" at a private fundraiser. If it were asked at the town hall, she'd have a response.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The questioners get the mic, ask the question, then have it taken from them. He can still insult or gaff up his response to the questioners, but he can't get into an actual fight / dialogue with them. If Trump interrupts them they still have the mic 
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Geostomp posted:I still don't see what they hope to accomplish by continuing to block Garland. It isn't making them look any better, win more cases, and it won't make Trump any more likely to win. So why continue to waste time and money on this ridiculous nine-month stunt?
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FilthyImp posted:They already know that they won't face any major loss from blocking him. To go ahead now would piss off the kool-aiders that think a black president only gets 3/5 if a final term in office for some reason, and would basically remind everyone that Garland was not acted upon under base partisan hackery.
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im gay posted:time to start aryzing again Why?
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Night10194 posted:Why?
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FactsAreUseless posted:Donald Trump remains taller than Clinton. That helped him so much in the last one, didn't it?
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FactsAreUseless posted:Donald Trump remains taller than Clinton. We need broad-shouldered leadership.
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lozzle posted:We need broad-shouldered leadership. To deal with that Mexican thing.
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Night10194 posted:That helped him so much in the last one, didn't it?
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lozzle posted:We need broad-shouldered leadership. Clinton is going to come out in football pads and Pence will endorse her after acting like a cartoon wolf who just saw a smoking hot babe.
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comingafteryouall posted:Clinton is going to come out in football pads and Pence will endorse her after acting like a cartoon wolf who just saw a smoking hot babe. Pauldrons are a well proven method to capture the hearts of losers and white supremacists, yes.
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FactsAreUseless posted:He won the debate, and Clinton sobbed and yelled "Allah, why have you forsaken me" and then Trump held up his golden shield of truth and she was forced from the stage. Her suicide bomb vest didn't even work. Low kinetic energy. Sad!
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Night10194 posted:Pauldrons are a well proven method to capture the hearts of losers and white supremacists, yes. What type of gems do you think she'll put in her pauldrons? I'm thinking rubies to boost her STR and HP pool.
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Phone posted:What type of gems do you think she'll put in her pauldrons? I'm thinking rubies to boost her STR and HP pool. Good old fashioned steel. 
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