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zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Davros1 posted:

I am genuinely curious if this was always the plan or if it was a last minute decision

There's no timeline where vince wasn't going to punish cody on the biggest stage of them all for the crime of starting aew

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FullMetalJackoff
Feb 15, 2004

Waluigi want his fucking Amiibo
Cody challenges Roman again on post-mania RAW, with the same world title stipulation from AEW.. and loses again at Backlash.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Know what would be really hilarious? If the Usos regained the tag titles tonight

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

Feel bad for Cody

Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012

Ok yeah now I’m totally convinced Vince strongarmed that finish at short notice. This waffle is the exact energy of a middle manager who has to explain his boss’s insane decisions

Dishwasher
Dec 5, 2006

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!
gently caress it, just give it to Gunther tonight and have "him" roll around with three belts.

Goldberg wasn't involved in the NWO soap opera when he beat Hogan. Hogan was just next.

garycoleisgod
Sep 27, 2004
Boo

Abroham Lincoln posted:

i love how absolutely incomprehensible this is. "we told him to say finish the story but the story never ends so he couldn't because we won't"

?????

It doesn't make sense, but remember the Ciampa/Gargano feud in NxT that went on way too long and went from being a fan favourite feud to something that sucked? Triple Paul booked that too...

The main problem (apart from LOLOLOLOLOL CODY LOST?!) with WWE, for me at least, is that babyfaces suck and heels always go over. The hottest WWE has ever been was when monster faces like Hogan and Austin ran wild, but for the last 20 odd years, more than before, heels go over and have long reigns, it's just draining. Even CenaWinsLol lost his title a bunch.

I blame Wrestlemania 16, the first mania to have a heel leave with the title (Hogan at 9 sucked, but he was NOMINALLY a face). Before then a face won every time. Since? From memory, Austin turned heel at 17, HHH retained at 19, Orton win at 24, Jericho at 26, Miz at 27, Del Rio at 29, Rollins at 31 (though this could be considered babyface), Brock at 33, Brock at 34, Lashley and Roman at 37, Roman at 38 and Roman at 39*.

That's not even counting comedy like "babyface" Sheamus beating Danielson in 18 seconds.

I just think WWE has fallen into "heels win for THE HEAT" and forgotten to have the babyfaces go over and blow off the heat.

And I blame HHH retaining at 16 for starting it, when Rock should have gone over in a 1v1, like the following month at Backlash. HHH is patient zero for all this.

IMO of course.

*This is counting both belts as world titles

A Fancy Hat
Nov 18, 2016

Always remember that the former President was dumber than the dumbest person you've ever met by a wide margin

I can’t decide which is worse; if this was always planned or if it was a last minute decision based on WWE being sold.

Good job, though, you managed to book an ending to a PPV worse than Batista winning the Rumble before Mania 30, Bray Wyatt winning via hologram, or Seth Rollins losing because he kicked too much rear end with a big hammer.

TheHoosier
Dec 30, 2004

The fuck, Graham?!

Cody got Lex Luger’d lmao

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib
Here is an image on Twitter of Balors cut and holy gently caress is it gruesome.

Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012

garycoleisgod posted:


I just think WWE has fallen into "heels win for THE HEAT" and forgotten to have the babyfaces go over and blow off the heat.


It’s this, but also something much more basic. The art of wrestling booking (and indeed selling literally any kind of product) is to make people want something, and then give it to them. It really isn’t hard.

But then again their revenue defies all of this so what do I know

Majinfoose
Jul 26, 2007

HOLY SHIT
This vegan brisket is bussin


TheHoosier posted:

Cody got Lex Luger’d lmao

Adrenaline
In my soul
CAN YOU EVEN AFFORD TO PAY ME TO WRESTLE RON
I DON'T KNOW

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

Lex looked like an idiot for winning by count out and celebrating. Cody looks like an idiot IRL and also ended looking like a sad idiot loser

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
I went to bed before WM was over, but when I checked these forums this morning and saw 350+ new posts in the WWE thread I burst out laughing because I knew exactly what that meant.

Majinfoose
Jul 26, 2007

HOLY SHIT
This vegan brisket is bussin


Big Coffin Hunter posted:

Lex looked like an idiot for winning by count out and celebrating. Cody looks like an idiot IRL and also ended looking like a sad idiot loser

He's such a clown he should join the club

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Goon funding project to buy EMF that jacket as his punishment for believing in Cody

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

SalTheBard posted:

Here is an image on Twitter of Balors cut and holy gently caress is it gruesome.



owns.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

Spent the night driving to EMF’s shack to deliver his new jacket to him:

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
WWE and UFC to merge
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/03/business/endeavor-tko-wwe-ufc.html

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


Vince to be exec chair. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/wwe-ufc-merger-endeavor-vince-mcmahon-1235365885-1235365885/

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Woke up and put out the trash, I start humming "ADRENALINE - IN MY SOUL" and then I remembered last night and started smiling. :)

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

For those being bothered by a paywall:

quote:

Endeavor and W.W.E. Join Forces to Create Live-Combat Tag Team

The new company, with the stock ticker “TKO,” is betting that the value of rights for live events like wrestling will continue to soar.

The tens of thousands of fans who crowded into SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles for WrestleMania this weekend got to watch wrestling icon John Cena be hurled to the canvas by Austin Theory, one of World Wrestling Entertainment’s biggest stars.

But offstage, bankers and executives huddled in conference suites at the stadium to put the finishing touches on a new plot for W.W.E.’s future. Endeavor, an entertainment colossus run by Hollywood power broker Ari Emanuel, was finalizing a deal to acquire W.W.E. and merge it with Ultimate Fighting Championship, the combat sports league Endeavor owns.

News of the deal, which aims to create a new public company worth more than $21 billion, broke Sunday before the second night of WrestleMania, with Mr. Emanuel in attendance alongside Vince McMahon, the executive chairman of W.W.E. The companies announced the deal Monday morning, saying the as-yet unnamed firm — whose stock will trade under the symbol “TKO” — would be a juggernaut in live entertainment and combat sports. The deal is expected to close near the end of the year, pending regulatory approval.

“Must-watch TV is a rarity these days,” said Mark Shapiro, Endeavor’s president and chief operating officer, who will also have those roles at the new company. “And unicorns like the U.F.C. and W.W.E. will be heavily in demand.”

In fusing Ultimate Fighting Championship with World Wrestling Entertainment, Mr. Emanuel and Mr. McMahon are betting that traditional TV companies and video-streaming giants will continue to pay top dollar for the rights to show live events — including scripted and unscripted fights.

Recent deals for live sports bear that out. The National Football League in December struck an agreement with YouTube TV that values its Sunday Ticket package of games at as much as $2.5 billion annually — an increase of about $1 billion from the deal with its previous partner, DirecTV. The National Basketball Association is expecting to sharply increase its fees after its current TV agreements expire following the 2024-25 season.

The intense competition between cable TV and deep-pocketed tech companies is behind the ballooning costs. As viewers abandon traditional television in droves, live events like N.F.L. games and W.W.E. matches continue to draw big ratings, helping anchor the cable TV business. And tech giants like Amazon and Alphabet are using live sports to draw new subscribers to their services, creating a bidding war with their traditional rivals.

Executives aim to use the tie-up of W.W.E. and U.F.C. to take advantage of that demand. U.F.C.’s contract with the Walt Disney Company’s ESPN division ends in the next few years, and W.W.E.’s deal with NBCUniversal’s U.S.A. network and the Fox broadcast network are set to expire next year.

The combination is the latest in a series of audacious deals struck by Mr. Emanuel, the workaholic Hollywood talent agent who rose from the mailroom to become one of the entertainment industry’s most important figures. Mr. Emanuel will be the chief executive of the new company and will keep his C.E.O. title at Endeavor, which will continue to own other businesses, including the William Morris Endeavor talent agency and the Professional Bull Riding league.

The deal also provides a coda to a tumultuous chapter in Mr. McMahon’s career. He was reinstated as executive chairman of W.W.E. in January after resigning from that position last year following an investigation into allegations of sexual harassment. Mr. McMahon will stay on at the new company as executive chairman, part of an 11-person board that will include six members from Endeavor and five members from W.W.E.

Dana White, the president of U.F.C., will keep that role, and Nick Khan, the chief executive of W.W.E., will stay on as president. Patrick Whitesell, the prominent Hollywood executive and agent who represents actors including Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, will remain executive chairman of Endeavor.
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The deal puts a hefty valuation on U.F.C., which Endeavor and its backers purchased for about $4 billion in 2016, and W.W.E., which was seeking about $9 billion in a deal. The all-stock deal values U.F.C. at $12.1 billion and W.W.E. at $9.3 billion. Mr. Shapiro said that the competitive bidding process justified the “healthy price” for W.W.E., along with the potential for a lucrative deal in its upcoming rights negotiation.

Endeavor is also betting the price tag will be justified by businesses other than rights. Mr. Shapiro said that the company’s capacity to sell sponsorships, create new events and strike deals with social-media companies contributes to its value.

The deal for W.W.E. came together quickly. Over the past several weeks, Mr. Emanuel and Mr. Shapiro visited W.W.E.’s headquarters in Stamford, Conn., and the offices of the investment bank The Raine Group in New York City to finalize the details of the agreement. On Sunday, as WrestleMania reached its conclusion, Endeavor and W.W.E. pinned down the final details.

“It’s been crazy,” said Mr. Shapiro, the Endeavor executive.

So that's that then!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Anyway, I had my fun with the Cody news, but the sale is done and Vince isn't loving off, so I am. :wave:

Majinfoose
Jul 26, 2007

HOLY SHIT
This vegan brisket is bussin


Fake fighting merges with WWE

Majinfoose
Jul 26, 2007

HOLY SHIT
This vegan brisket is bussin


Jerusalem posted:

Anyway, I had my fun with the Cody news, but the sale is done and Vince isn't loving off, so I am. :wave:

:hfive:

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

TheHoosier posted:

Cody got Lex Luger’d lmao

ADRENALINE
IN MY SOUL
TONYFLEX
CODY RHODES

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://twitter.com/endeavor/status/1642844890152435713?s=46&t=GxZoSKgPzb_-zyUnvLFKvg

super macho dude
Aug 9, 2014


Can't wait for the RAW After Wrestlemania™️! Anything can happen, Corey!

Tampa Bae
Aug 23, 2021

Please, this is all I have

super macho dude posted:

Can't wait for the RAW After Wrestlemania™️! Anything can happen, Corey!
lol that Vince actually succeeded in chasing away their loudest and most hardcore fans, the WM/Post WM fans, just because they were cheering for the wrong people

Dishwasher
Dec 5, 2006

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!

Jerusalem posted:

Anyway, I had my fun with the Cody news, but the sale is done and Vince isn't loving off, so I am. :wave:

Not even a single hit on a Russian piracy site from me going forward. And I also doubt that Auschwitz promo was truly a mistake. So long to bad garbage.

:byewhore:

Dishwasher fucked around with this message at 12:26 on Apr 3, 2023

FullMetalJackoff
Feb 15, 2004

Waluigi want his fucking Amiibo
They can fire the costume designers now that everyone will be forced to wear Reebok tights.


Hear it on the radio

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.
TKO?

TONY KHAN ORGANISATION????

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


So, the new owner of WWE, Ari Emanuel.

"His father, Jerusalem-born Dr. Benjamin M. Emanuel, is a pediatrician who was active in the Irgun, a Zionist paramilitary group", so his da was a terrorist.
Divorced his wife of 20 years to marry someone 28 years his junior.
Close associate of Donald Trump, convinced Donald to donate to his lovely brother Rahm's mayoral campaign in 2010.
Settled a lawsuit for more than $2m where he was accused of allowing a friend to run a porno company out of Endeavor's offices, as well as making racist and homophobic remarks, most notably refusing to send a script about a Navy SEAL to Wesley Snipes because "That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Everyone knows that blacks don't swim."

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


CopywrightMMXI posted:

I went to bed before WM was over, but when I checked these forums this morning and saw 350+ new posts in the WWE thread I burst out laughing because I knew exactly what that meant.

They broke so many people that still for some reason didn't listen to us, and then made $9+bil more off it by selling immediately/hours later, and ensured Vince has a job on top for the rest of his life in the process of it by selling to one of the two people that wanted him staying

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.
This was Jeremy Piven's long game to prove the Summerfest name correct.

Maduo
Sep 8, 2006

You see all the colors.
All of them.


It only just clicked for me that it's THAT Ari Emanuel. Jeremy Piven's character from Entourage owns WWE now.

bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004

OH NO!
I have no idea how you value WWE at 9 billion dollars lol. I remember we were lollin at 5bn. Money truly has no meaning.

I sincerely hope Vince dies on the shitter or something before this thing closes. He doesn’t deserve to walk into the sunset, undefeated at life, with billions of dollars and a terrible moustache.

This just solidifies WWE as a company where the wrestling isn’t the point. You go to a WWE show and it’s sterile, almost clinical. It’s like the circus. You’ll wait 25 min from the start of an entrance to the bell, for it to run 4 minutes before another commercial break. You go to AEW shows and they keep things moving almost too fast.

drat it feels good to be elite.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


bloodysabbath posted:

I have no idea how you value WWE at 9 billion dollars lol. I remember we were lollin at 5bn. Money truly has no meaning.

I sincerely hope Vince dies on the shitter or something

Shane McMahon, with his destroyed quads, doing a Tyrion Lannister to his dad on the loo. There's a fun image.

Conrad_Birdie
Jul 10, 2009

I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY
Big loving lol glad I didn’t watch this poo poo

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MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Chris James 2 posted:

They broke so many people that still for some reason didn't listen to us, and then made $9+bil more off it by selling immediately/hours later, and ensured Vince has a job on top for the rest of his life in the process of it by selling to one of the two people that wanted him staying

Vince then now forever

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