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CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

FCKGW posted:

White people consider asians to be white too.

Bullshit.

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Skinnymansbeerbelly
Apr 1, 2010
I knew someone at the DMV who was involved with their recalling of the "PUSSY" plate over a decade ago. Yes, they actually let it out, it was owned by a little old cat lady who fought it every step of the way.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


So how often did that get stolen?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Skinnymansbeerbelly posted:

I knew someone at the DMV who was involved with their recalling of the "PUSSY" plate over a decade ago. Yes, they actually let it out, it was owned by a little old cat lady who fought it every step of the way.

Cat lady grabbed the pussy before it was cool.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Roland Jones posted:

Hey, so, if anyone wants to know what the next major Republican rallying point is going to be, here's an advance look:
https://twitter.com/FresnoBee/status/854451293846249472
That's the local news coverage of it. Here is Fox's take.

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump personally said something about Fresno before the day's over. This is too perfect for them.

Crossposting from the Trump thread, since this is relevant here too. Ugh, this is terrible.

Lugnut Seatcushion
May 4, 2013
Lipstick Apathy

Roland Jones posted:

Crossposting from the Trump thread, since this is relevant here too. Ugh, this is terrible.

gently caress him, not for what he did but for the inevitable legislative backlash

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

cravius posted:

gently caress him, not for what he did but for the inevitable legislative backlash

Im not sure why you're so cavalier about the deaths of 3 folks by some murderous maniac

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Also Fresno PD just said it wasn't terrorism so good job on the nothingburger

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

FCKGW posted:

Also Fresno PD just said it wasn't terrorism so good job on the nothingburger

Well, of course it wasn't; the guy is legit insane. Can you blame me for worrying though? The incident was basically out of a right-wing fantasy. Heck, I still wouldn't be surprised if this catches on in right-wing circles and they complain about liberal California police protecting terrorists (never mind that Fresno isn't particularly liberal and the county as a whole is purple) or something.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
Fresno itself is terrorism but i dont see anyone tripping over themselves to do anything about it.

Duckbox
Sep 7, 2007

Wait, "Ali Akbar?"

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


Duckbag posted:

Wait, "Ali Akbar?"

The akbar-est. :colbert:

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




paranoid randroid posted:

Fresno itself is terrorism but i dont see anyone tripping over themselves to do anything about it.

Did some new info come out or something? I thought the police had been pretty adamant in saying it wasn't terrorism, just a guy off his meds.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

VikingofRock posted:

Did some new info come out or something? I thought the police had been pretty adamant in saying it wasn't terrorism, just a guy off his meds.

you misunderstand - Fresno the city is an act of civic terrorism

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




paranoid randroid posted:

you misunderstand - Fresno the city is an act of civic terrorism

Oh gotcha. Somehow my eyes just skipped right over the word "itself" in your post.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yeah, while initially I was really worried, between some national news websites doing articles on it and seeing the shooting mentioned by some alt-right type creeps on social media, it seems like mainstream Republicans didn't seize on the incident. The local interfaith community (which is apparently very strong) pretty much immediately came together to denounce the attack and support the victims' families and such, the police have said it's not terrorism, and so far other than getting a few more local news stories it seems to be going the same way any shooting incident in a city does. While Internet MAGA types will probably keep bringing it up (and I really hope I never have to talk to my relatives about it), it doesn't seem to be getting blamed on Muslims by most people, which is a relief.

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




Looks like we are one step closer to single payer. There are still a lot of unanswered questions though.

The LA Times posted:

A sweeping measure that would establish government-run universal healthcare in California cleared its first legislative hurdle Wednesday as scores of supporters crammed into the Capitol to advocate for a single-payer system.

The Senate Health Committee approved the measure on a 5-2 vote after a nearly three-hour hearing, but Democrats and Republicans alike signaled unease with the major question still unanswered in the legislation: how the program would be paid for.

The bill, SB 562, would establish a publicly run healthcare plan that would cover everyone living in California, including those without legal immigration status. The proposal would drastically reduce the role of insurance companies: The state would pay for all medical expenses, including inpatient, outpatient, emergency services, dental, vision, mental health and nursing home care.

The measure says the program would be funded by "broad-based revenue," but does not specify where that money would come from.


"How can we go forward with this bill without a fiscal analysis, a detailed financing plan?" asked Sen. Janet Nguyen (R-Garden Grove).

Sen. Ricardo Lara (D-Bell Gardens), a coauthor of the bill, said a detailed financial study would be completed in May, before the bill is heard in the Appropriations Committee, a key fiscal panel.

"Sen. [Toni] Atkins and I are not just going to do this on a whim," Lara said, referring to his coauthor, a Democrat from San Diego. "We want to make sure it's sustainable."

With the significant unanswered question of funding still looming, lawmakers turned their focus to the implementation of such a system, with ideas including the use of electronic health records and securing waivers from the federal government to administer Medicare and Medi-Cal funds.

"Because I ask questions about how we operationalize the bill, it should not call into question my commitment to healthcare for all," Sen. Holly J. Mitchell (D-Los Angeles) said, emphasizing that her inquiries were on "the issue of how we get it done."

Supporters of the bill turned out in force at the Capitol, many wearing red shirts identifying them as members of the California Nurses Assn., a powerful labor group sponsoring the bill. Other labor groups, including the California Labor Federation, and consumer groups also backed the effort, as well as members of the grass-roots Our Revolution group inspired by the 2016 presidential campaign of U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

A wide array of business groups opposed the measure, including health insurers, manufacturers and the California Chamber of Commerce, which called the bill a "job killer."

The hearing came on the heels of a fact-finding trip to Canada by Lara, who, who along with two other Democratic senators met with health officials in the provinces of Ontario and Quebec to learn about their single-payer healthcare systems.

In an interview, Lara described how his spring break trip to Canada helped inform his views on public healthcare. He said his Canadian hosts acknowledged their healthcare system was not perfect, pointing to long wait times to see specialists as a legitimate concern.

But other fears, such as whether public healthcare would dampen research and innovation, were assuaged by a visit to a high-tech cardiac center in Toronto, he said.

"It was refreshing for me to see that … under a public system that research and state-of-the-art facilities and care can also exist," Lara said.

None of the Canadian experts warned the senators away from pursuing a single-payer plan, but they recommended a cautious approach, Lara said, particularly when it comes to deciding at the outset what type of care would be covered under the public plan.

The advice was to "be very diligent and thoughtful in terms of what you're going to offer — because once you offer it, you can't take it away," Lara said. They also advised looking to other models — not just Canada's — in crafting a plan for California. Lara said he intends to examine Taiwan's healthcare system, as well as Maryland's "all-payer" system, in which all private insurers pay the same rate for hospital procedures.

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

:ohdear: Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.




Dinosaur Gum
California real estate question. Someone here answered some Prop 8 and Prop 14 questions for me a bit ago but I left out a detail I didn't even think about.

House was bought in 2004,
we refinanced in 2012
Taxes were low in 2012 but jumped sharply to pre recession values due to Prop 8.

I forgot that the house was originally in my wife's parents' names and we did a transfer of ownership during the refinance in 2012, since the ownership changed shouldn't our base tax be at 2012 levels? That is currently not happening and Zillow still shows a sale date of 2004.

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

Your county's records should show what the assessed value/last sale date is, I imagine that's what any taxes would be based on. I wouldn't depend on zillow for that sort of thing

Disclaimer: while I am a filthy CA property owner I haven't had any reason to look into a refi so I pretty much have no idea what I'm talking about

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Goons in a republican-held seat: you have your loving marching orders to take these fuckers down.

quote:

All of California's GOP House members voted to pass the Republican healthcare bill

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-how-gop-delegation-voted-healthcare-20170504-htmlstory.html

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

My rep Ken Calvert is a real piece of poo poo with a quickly growing Hispanic constituency but he still won 2016 by 17 points :/

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

FCKGW posted:

My rep Ken Calvert is a real piece of poo poo with a quickly growing Hispanic constituency but he still won 2016 by 17 points :/

Mine is Paul Cook, who is pretty quiet and walks the line. Unfortunately, his district is heavily Republican despite growing number of POCs migrating to the area.

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




FCKGW posted:

My rep Ken Calvert is a real piece of poo poo with a quickly growing Hispanic constituency but he still won 2016 by 17 points :/

Good. If Kansas 4 or Georgia 6 are any indication, that puts him right within striking distance of replacement.

The Aardvark
Aug 19, 2013


Hopefully this will be the final push to get Issa out of my district.

coronaball
Feb 6, 2005

You're finished, pork-o-nazi!

VikingofRock posted:

Good. If Kansas 4 or Georgia 6 are any indication, that puts him right within striking distance of replacement.

If this thing sets off the wave that it should/could, the only safe seats would be McClintock, Nunes, Mccarthy, and Duncan Hunter. Everyone else would at least be in play.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

FCKGW posted:

My rep Ken Calvert is a real piece of poo poo with a quickly growing Hispanic constituency but he still won 2016 by 17 points :/

Ken Calvert used to be my rep and every time I remember that greasy corrupt hooker-loving piece of poo poo still wins elections it makes my forehead throb.

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Ken Calvert used to be my rep and every time I remember that greasy corrupt hooker-loving piece of poo poo still wins elections it makes my forehead throb.

Same but for McCarthy

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

L-Shaped


Nap Ghost
God I can't wait to protest on Issa's lawn

moon demon
Sep 11, 2001

of the moon, of the dream
I don't know about this Issa guy. Seems like a bad hombre.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

chupacabraTERROR posted:

I don't know about this Issa guy. Seems like a bad hombre.

i think its very progressive of his district to elect a serial arsonist and car thief to office

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

CA-52 supremacy, gently caress Issa! I'm totally gonna come up there and canvas or phonebank or whatever against him in '18 though.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
Would there be any interest in me periscoping from the floor of the CaDem convention in two weeks?

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Mordiceius posted:

Would there be any interest in me periscoping from the floor of the CaDem convention in two weeks?

100% yes, got a Twitter account I can follow to get updates?

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Burn Darrell Issa with fire. The cleansing fire of a zillion swing-district voters.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
My rep is loving Nunes. Hated him before this so much that I don't think this actually moved the needle at all, but it's more ammunition against the fucker.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Roland Jones posted:

My rep is loving Nunes. Hated him before this so much that I don't think this actually moved the needle at all, but it's more ammunition against the fucker.

I still get the feeling that Nunes will be out, but he'll just get primaried by a republican who will take the seat. He was just so lovely during that whole investigation.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
He's gotten a Democratic challenger, Andrew Janz, who at least seems promising. Admittedly this district's makeup still makes him a longshot, but I'll support him anyway.

Duckbox
Sep 7, 2007

coronaball posted:

If this thing sets off the wave that it should/could, the only safe seats would be McClintock, Nunes, Mccarthy, and Duncan Hunter. Everyone else would at least be in play.

Hunter has been challenged before, but he inherited the seat from his dad (who had the same name and some people definitely thought was still in office at first) and enjoys a sort of super-incumbancy that has usually scared people off. San Diego democrats in general and East County dems in particular have a nasty habit of running non-entities and sacrificial lambs in Republican districts and saving all their money and time for more competitive or high profile races within the city limits.

It's been a problem for years and I'm not sure they'll get over it any time soon, but it does mean that the "safe seat" designations are deceptive. It's been twenty years since democrats ran serious challengers (with a couple marginal exceptions) for Hunter's seat and the demographics have changed hugely. Hunter is fairly popular with the conservative base and the veterans, but he's also a delusional tea party wingnut who isn't used to having competitive races (his daddy was the bareknuckle campaigner, not him).

A strong Democratic challenger with institutional support could take him, or at least make it a race to watch, but that would require someone​ in the county party to actually acknowledge that there are democrats east of the 125 and I'm not holding my breath on that one.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Hey guys, the single-player bill is still kicking: http://ktla.com/2017/04/27/bill-to-create-single-payer-health-care-in-california-passes-1st-test-in-committee/

This may or may not be worth keeping in mind given recent events.

e:f;b

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Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yeah, one of the few good things that the AHCA might bring about more support for SB 562, since there's that utter healthcare disaster looming on the horizon. Definitely need to keep pushing for single-payer here, now more than ever. And also vote out every rear end in a top hat who supported the AHCA of course.

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