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Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Lote posted:

Honestly, I thought that one arm of the swastika was bending over to suck itself. I am bad at parody.

Solid interpretation friend.

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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

boner confessor posted:

north carolina law prevents local governments from removing memorials. sadly the county is legally required to replace the statute

Then let the people do it themselves, no government involved

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

SocketWrench posted:

Then let the people do it themselves, no government involved

Seriously poo poo like that didn't stop MLK Jr.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

skeleton warrior posted:

Better: go with George "The Rock of Chickamauga" Thomas, who Sherman left in command of the Army of the Cumberland while he marched through Georgia and South Carolina. Thomas was a competent and constantly underrated commander, and the only general to completely destroy an enemy army in the field at the Battle of Nashville.

He was also a Virginian who stayed loyal to the Union and was ostracized by his family for it.



And another next to it as tribute to the men he commanded who not only advanced as they were ordered at Chattanooga, but bum rushed and overran the rebels while screaming "Chickamauga!" to regain their honor

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Mustached Demon posted:

Maybe they'll bend the next one so it looks like it's blowing itself in honor of Steve Bannon.

If they really wanted to add insult to injury, wrap them around a telephone pole to make some Sherman neckties

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
Trump big whiny baby, thought All Lives Matter initial statement was fine and good.

Slate posted:

Loath to appear to be admitting a mistake, Trump was reluctant to adjust his remarks. The president had indicated to advisers before his initial statement Saturday that he wanted to stress a need for law and order, which he did. He later expressed anger to those close to him about what he perceived as the media’s unfair assessment of his remarks, believing he had effectively denounced all forms of bigotry, according to outside advisers and White House officials.

Several of Trump’s senior advisers, including new chief of staff John Kelly, had urged him to make a more specific condemnation, warning that the negative story would not go away and that the rising tide of criticism from fellow Republicans on Capitol Hill could endanger his legislative agenda, according to two White House officials.


So let’s be clear the president of the United States didn’t want or believe he needed to make his second statement actually condemning white supremacists Monday. From the AP’s version of events, Donald Trump does not see what he did wrong the first time and one of the ways his chief of staff tried to convince him to denounce the KKK was to make clear to him that going soft on unbridled bigotry was bad politically for him. Kelly played to the president’s profound selfishness in reminding Trump that he personally would lose something—his “agenda” (whatever that is)—if he didn’t do more to condemn the historical and ongoing scourge of white supremacist violence and intimidation.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/897292443317678080
https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/897314931019743232

HPanda
Sep 5, 2008

Boris Galerkin posted:

His stuff shows up in my recommended YouTube feed and I watch them now and then. I think he does a fantastic job and is both informative and funny, all said and done, but his stuff seems a tad bit too rehearsed if that makes any sense. People like John Oliver for example at least acknowledges their audience and pauses, stops, laughs with the crowd, and generally interacts with the crowd in some way. But it always felt to me like Seth Meyers just read directly from a teleprompter into a camera. Just an observation.

That, and Meyers sometimes has issues with joke timing. Back when he first started with his latest gig (when I started watching him), he had a bad tendency to overplay jokes. I think he's really gotten better though. He does well with politics because I think he needs that bit of meanness in his jokes to really punch them in. When he doesn't linger on a gag, his delivery tends to be much better.

drat good delivery on this video, though.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

berserker posted:

are you a strange google AI bot or something? just like... look at the picture

Doesn't look like anything to me

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016


loving hell what a piece of poo poo.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
A Jacobin article on "the Battle of Lewisham," a confrontation between about 500 fascists and around 4000 anti-fascists in May of 1977, which successfully pushed back against a rising fascist influence in British politics and fascist electoral victories on the basis of demonizing immigrants and the black population.

quote:

The Battle at Lewisham shaped the national political dynamic. Not only was the National Front’s sense of momentum shattered, but it had faced humiliation by being defeated on the streets by its opponents. The struggle was widely credited with easing racial tensions in the area, partially due to the unity of young Asian, Irish, and black people in fighting fascism, but also due to the intimidation local fascists now felt in areas they had once terrorized.

Furthermore, the violence associated with the National Front began to dent their electoral standing in the eyes of the imperial-minded, radicalized Tory voters who had once supported them. When Margaret Thatcher began to adopt the rhetoric of the far right several years later — describing Britain as being “rather swamped” by “people with a different culture” — the moment for these voters to return to the Conservative Party was heralded. Voting for the chaotic National Front over a viable, racist Conservative Party seemed less of a political option.

The experience of antifascism in this era left a bitter taste in the mouths of the British far right. For Martin Webster, a leading light of the National Front, the antifascist movement had “dashed” their recruitment chances. Its propaganda war to equate “NF” with “Nazi” cut away at their reputation in working class areas.

Conclusion: the correct response to fascists is overwhelming force, preferably behind a brick flying through the air.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Lightning Knight posted:

Conclusion: the correct response to fascists is overwhelming force, preferably behind a brick flying through the air.

With an added reminder for everyone to watch the Vice segment on Charlottesville to contextualize the above as a potential understatement.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

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Office Pig posted:

With an added reminder for everyone to watch the Vice segment on Charlottesville to contextualize the above as a potential understatement.

What's this referring to?

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Lightning Knight posted:


Conclusion: the correct response to fascists is overwhelming force, preferably behind a brick flying through the air.

Followed by giving them what they asked for, as the article argues?

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Lightning Knight posted:

What's this referring to?

This segment, wherein white supremacists brazenly expound their rancid ideals set against a backdrop of terror and death.

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

mistaya posted:

Watch this. All of it, but especially the last five minutes. Watch the Nazi gently caress justify his world view, and talk about how he hopes more people die at the next rally. Watch him say it was a success because no one on his side died and the "animals" didn't get out of the way of the car fast enough.

Then think about what it means to give people who publicly tell reporters they plan to kill others and want an ethno-state a platform on which to speak.
Not sure what it would mean to "give a platform", but I would think it is good for everyone when these people dig their own graves live on TV and most likely add a few inches to Trumps and white identity politics while they're at it.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Lightning Knight posted:

What's this referring to?

Vice's Elle Reeve got up close with some of the Nazis behind the Charlottesville march.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I

The entire thing is fairly dire viewing for the amount of explicit malevolence put on display by grunts and organizers alike, but those last three minutes are probably some of the most important you can spend in witnessing a raw lust for death that will lead to bodies in ways that may eclipse what happened in this country over the span of a weekend.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

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radmonger posted:

Followed by giving them what they asked for, as the article argues?

Are you referring to the electoral victories of Margaret Thatcher's Conservative Party? Arguably, they represented a moderation, subsuming overt fascists back into conventional dogwhistle politics and preventing a fascist insurgency from the right. Such as David Cameron attempted and failed to do with the Brexit maneuver.

I'm not really familiar enough with British politics or history to say more than that but there it is.

I just think it's foolish not to heed the fascists themselves, when they say time and time again that the only thing that can stop them is direct opposition willing to use force to shut them down. Even Hitler himself admitted as much. Force is the only thing fascism comprehends, because fascism is the logical end point of authoritarian dogma.

Skippy McPants posted:

This segment, wherein white supremacists brazenly expound their rancid ideals set against a backdrop of terror and death.

This infinitely more disturbing in motion with sound.

Edit: I cannot watch this, my urge to apply for concealed carry is rising by the second.

Lightning Knight fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Aug 15, 2017

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Autism Sneaks posted:

this ended up on my feed and owns

https://twitter.com/sirmitchell/status/862179399902384128

he has stickers!

I bought some stickers and a pin from him a few months ago. Good stuff.

Edit: if you like Star Wars and sci-fi, the artist has a lot of other great stuff.

Krispy Wafer fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Aug 15, 2017

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Lightning Knight posted:


I just think it's foolish not to heed the fascists themselves, when they say time and time again that the only thing that can stop them is direct opposition willing to use force to shut them down. Even Hitler himself admitted as much. Force is the only thing fascism comprehends, because fascism is the logical end point of authoritarian

I think it's just that _after_ that, and not before, you want to be more Marshall Plan than Versailles Treaty.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

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radmonger posted:

I think it's just that _after_ that, and not before, you want to be more Marshall Plan than Versailles Treaty.

I know what both of these things are but not how they work in this metaphor. Can you elaborate? :v:

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Sephyr posted:

True, but these creeps appropriated Pepe, video games and freaking MILK. Just wasn't sure it wasn't a thing.

Hey man, they really needed that milk.
https://twitter.com/bobby/status/896447798765375489

Pembroke Fuse posted:

If you ever get into a fight with a Russian shithead like that, you can always yell "bey fashistov", it means punch/kill fascists and it's a pretty well known phrase in Russia, stretching back the glorious war of the fatherland.

Or if it somehow happens again while you are the Netherlands, ask him why pro-Russian troops shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. If starts spouting bullshit, ask again very loudly so everyone around you can hear it. There were nearly 200 Dutch citizens on that flight.

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Aug 15, 2017

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Lightning Knight posted:

I know what both of these things are but not how they work in this metaphor. Can you elaborate? :v:

Versailles Treaty hosed Germany up bad, gave rise to Hitler. Marshall Plan reconstructed Germany. These two are quite often brought up together, you may want to look more into it before claiming knowledge.

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

Lightning Knight posted:

I know what both of these things are but not how they work in this metaphor. Can you elaborate? :v:

Versailles was punitive and tried to ensure Germany couldn't wage war again.

The Marshall Plan forced Europe to acknowledge its guilt and attempted to rebuild society to both be a bulwark against the USSR as well as alleviate the causes that gave rise to fascism to begin with.

Basically, before people go Nazi, you have to actually try and help them so that they don't go Nazi. You don't just write them off and continue kicking them in the dick.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Office Pig posted:

Vice's Elle Reeve got up close with some of the Nazis behind the Charlottesville march.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I

The entire thing is fairly dire viewing for the amount of explicit malevolence put on display by grunts and organizers alike, but those last three minutes are probably some of the most important you can spend in witnessing a raw lust for death that will lead to bodies in ways that may eclipse what happened in this country over the span of a weekend.

This video made me so drat angry and the alt right must be smashed

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Well of course. This is all new territory for the Orange One. Before when he said something no one asked questions, they just did the task. Maybe not being specific is why all his business ventures often end in failure/bankruptcy

Office Pig posted:

With an added reminder for everyone to watch the Vice segment on Charlottesville to contextualize the above as a potential understatement.

Just a reminder, you can pick up lots of military surplus poo poo for cheap at surplus stores, like helmets and vests. Might as well go with some protection. US pot helmets go for as low as ten bucks at places and they work well

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Aug 15, 2017

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

SocketWrench posted:

all his business ventures often end in failure/bankruptcy

oh gently caress.

he's always said he's going to run the US like a business.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Synthbuttrange posted:

oh gently caress.

he's always said he's going to run the US like a business.

I think the only moderate success he had was one casino, but I think they dropped his name recently. All his properties are basically just him charging the actual owners for use of his name. He's actually filed bankruptcy 3 or 4 times, and if not for his rich family to beg money from he'd be another cog in the machine like everyone else....that is if he didn't suffer rich guy depression and blow his brains out

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/897405235924275200

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

GoutPatrol posted:

This video made me so drat angry and the alt right American Nazis must be smashed

Much better. Call them what they are.

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

https://mobile.twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/897216447163879424

terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009
https://twitter.com/MikeHolden42/status/897411710721691648

This and another CNN meme. Wtf?

Trump retweeted that I mean

brockan
Mar 9, 2014
edit: Same as the previous post.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


He also retweeted sooner cartoon of a personification of CNN getting run over a train, but these days it hardly rates

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



GoutPatrol posted:

This video made me so drat angry and the alt right must be smashed

Lots of "lol" in this thread about nazis bawling for milk and poo poo but there is nothing funny about this video.

Can't believe the balls on that reporter lady and camera crew. Iron stomachs too.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Al Borland Corp. posted:

He also retweeted sooner cartoon of a personification of CNN getting run over a train, but these days it hardly rates

Yeah nothing weird about drawing a vehicle slamming into your enemies today!

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

terrorist ambulance posted:

https://twitter.com/MikeHolden42/status/897411710721691648

This and another CNN meme. Wtf?

Trump retweeted that I mean

look guy, with his hands, just be surprised it was just retweets and not another covfefe

terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009
I don't "get" or use Twitter, but isn't he calling himself fascist?

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

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Grassy Knowles posted:

Versailles Treaty hosed Germany up bad, gave rise to Hitler. Marshall Plan reconstructed Germany. These two are quite often brought up together, you may want to look more into it before claiming knowledge.

I know this, he was using it as a metaphor and I wasn't clear on exactly what he meant in relation to the metaphor.

redneck nazgul posted:

Versailles was punitive and tried to ensure Germany couldn't wage war again.

The Marshall Plan forced Europe to acknowledge its guilt and attempted to rebuild society to both be a bulwark against the USSR as well as alleviate the causes that gave rise to fascism to begin with.

Basically, before people go Nazi, you have to actually try and help them so that they don't go Nazi. You don't just write them off and continue kicking them in the dick.

This is easier said than done though, considering that prospects for undereducted young single white men aren't going to get any better in the near term.

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brockan
Mar 9, 2014
Looks like he just removed that retweet.

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