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twistedmentat posted:I always wondered what the food situation on the TOS Enterprise was. All I can think of is Trouble with Tribbles where Kirk uses the food processor to get his chicken sandwich and coffee (with extra tribble), but ST6 shows an actual kitchen. I figure the food processor's good enough for day to day needs, but when you're hosting VIPs, you want real food on hand.
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twistedmentat posted:I always wondered what the food situation on the TOS Enterprise was. All I can think of is Trouble with Tribbles where Kirk uses the food processor to get his chicken sandwich and coffee (with extra tribble), but ST6 shows an actual kitchen. Maybe the food IS made in a big kitchen, and the foot slots are just little turbo-dumbwaiters that distribute the dishes all over the ship.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:21
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Powered Descent posted:Maybe the food IS made in a big kitchen, and the foot slots are just little turbo-dumbwaiters that distribute the dishes all over the ship. Teleporters, short range.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:23
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VanSandman posted:Teleporters, short range. What if that's how 24th-century replicators work too? The captain pushes a button (actually an intercom) and says "Tea, Earl Grey, hot". Down in the galley on Deck 31, Crewman Whatshisface hears that, jumps up from browsing Reddit on a PADD, and says "shitshitshitshitshit" as he tries to dump a spoonful of Advanced Tea Substitute powder into a cup of hot water and get it into the little transporter to beam it to the ready room, all in a few seconds.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:34
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Every ship in the Federation has a subcrew of Harry Potter elves no one talks about.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:41
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WickedHate posted:Every ship in the Federation has a subcrew of Harry Potter elves no one talks about. Exocomps deserve the vote
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Jan 23, 2017 04:46
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The exocomp is refusing fabricate the dragon dildo. It must be defective, take it to be erased and reimaged.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:47
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Powered Descent posted:Maybe the food IS made in a big kitchen, and the foot slots are just little turbo-dumbwaiters that distribute the dishes all over the ship. You know how in Futurama the tongue-in-cheek gag of the slow and backward Central Bureaucracy was that they used pneumatic tubes to send things everywhere? I was watching some old-school Simpsons and in the first few seasons apparently pneumatic tubes were still seen as futuristic and cool, enough to be used to send messages around the nuclear power plant. What I'm saying is you're probably right, that would have seemed like a dope-rear end future idea in the 60s.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:27
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I always liked the gigantic pot of mashed potato in ST6. Apparently in times of more militaristic Starfleet, they affect a WWI-style naval tradition with fancy uniforms, thousands of guys below deck in hammocks getting thrown around, hellish boiler rooms, and endless quantities of potatoes. Undoubtedly peeled by every E-1 they could muster.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:40
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My friend works in a big pharmacy that has a robot and a tube system for sending pills and supplies within the hospital, it's pretty futuristic.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:58
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Food-wise, I love how the TNG technical manual implies that the basic order of things, food-wise, is this: - Start with generic foodmatter - Replicators make it the generic foodmatter into foods - People eat the food - Uneaten food goes into back into the generic foodmatter thing - People poo - Poo is carefully analyzed and the non-toxic stuff is put into the generic foodmatter pile
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Jan 23, 2017 06:05
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Data Graham posted:You know how in Futurama the tongue-in-cheek gag of the slow and backward Central Bureaucracy was that they used pneumatic tubes to send things everywhere? Pneumatic tubes aren't very futuristic. They were just a way to move documents around in buildings before email. They were first used in the 1830s.
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Jan 23, 2017 06:13
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Data Graham posted:You know how in Futurama the tongue-in-cheek gag of the slow and backward Central Bureaucracy was that they used pneumatic tubes to send things everywhere? Uh no the joke was that they were still old and crappy not sure when you think the Simpsons launched but its not that old.
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Jan 23, 2017 06:25
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Pneumatic tubes will never not be cool and futuristic.
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Jan 23, 2017 07:29
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Angry Salami posted:I figure the food processor's good enough for day to day needs, but when you're hosting VIPs, you want real food on hand.
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Jan 23, 2017 07:29
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Angry Salami posted:I figure the food processor's good enough for day to day needs, but when you're hosting VIPs, you want real food on hand. In Enterprise, the food processor would poo poo out basics like fake chicken and fake bread, but it'd take a chef to turn slabs of stuff into something like a real meal.
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Jan 23, 2017 07:50
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socialsecurity posted:Uh no the joke was that they were still old and crappy not sure when you think the Simpsons launched but its not that old. Yeah, that was one of many bits they were doing at the time to show how old the Nucleon Panner Plant was.
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Jan 23, 2017 07:59
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:It wasn't consistent. There's a cook that calls up to the bridge in Charlie X, but by the time David Gerrold was working on The Trouble With Tribbles he was told by Gene Coon that there was no cook on the ship.
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Jan 23, 2017 08:23
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Knormal posted:Due to a quirk in Starfleet organization the chef wore a red uniform, so by the time they got a few months into their five-year mission, well... ...to shreds, you say?
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Jan 23, 2017 08:31
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Riley a la bourguignon.
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Jan 23, 2017 08:47
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Powered Descent posted:Maybe the food IS made in a big kitchen, and the foot slots are just little turbo-dumbwaiters that distribute the dishes all over the ship. Nah, the chicken soup scene in Tomorrow is Yesterday seems to imply that the food is immediately made to order. I suppose they could have a big vat of chicken soup somewhere and just be hyper efficient, but the way it's written seems to suggest that the food slot could have produced anything 60s dude asked for.
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Jan 23, 2017 09:58
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Duckbag posted:but the way it's written seems to suggest that the food slot could have produced anything 60s dude asked for. "I want fruit and shrimp in jello please."
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Jan 23, 2017 10:13
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This Crusher detective episode has some pretty unethical medical issues, but the worst offense is that it made me notice the carpeted wall and ceiling in the shuttle set.
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Jan 23, 2017 10:18
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Data Graham posted:You know how in Futurama the tongue-in-cheek gag of the slow and backward Central Bureaucracy was that they used pneumatic tubes to send things everywhere? Ever see the 1994 movie version of The Shadow with Alec Baldwin? Had this private system of pneumatic tubes all over New York so he could send and receive secret messages to and from his network of agents.
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Jan 23, 2017 11:44
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This Crusher detective episode has some pretty unethical medical issues, but the worst offense is that it made me notice the carpeted wall and ceiling in the shuttle set. "What if, hear me out, every surface in the shuttle had the same styling as the floor of an 80s Hyundai?"
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Jan 23, 2017 12:01
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MisterBibs posted:Food-wise, I love how the TNG technical manual implies that the basic order of things, food-wise, is this: the cum on the holodeck floor also goes into the generic foodmatter pile
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Jan 23, 2017 13:08
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socialsecurity posted:Uh no the joke was that they were still old and crappy not sure when you think the Simpsons launched but its not that old. I was there to look forward to the premiere sonny.  But the joke read to me like the tube system was quirky and mysterious (and went to a beaver dam) because the plant is a byzantine inscrutable place, not necessarily that it was that way because it was old. Could be wrong though.
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Jan 23, 2017 13:42
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Duckbag posted:Nah, the chicken soup scene in Tomorrow is Yesterday seems to imply that the food is immediately made to order. I suppose they could have a big vat of chicken soup somewhere and just be hyper efficient, but the way it's written seems to suggest that the food slot could have produced anything 60s dude asked for. In Charlie X the Thanksgiving dinner was made with appropriately flavored and textured meatloaf instead of a real turkey, so split the difference: the food slot can produce a reasonable facsimile of anything you can ask for.
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Jan 23, 2017 14:53
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Calling meatloaf a food, facsimile or otherwise, is incredibly offensive.
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Jan 23, 2017 15:23
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The_Doctor posted:"I want fruit and shrimp in jello please." And a double Martini. I could see food slots being able to make simple stuff like a sandwich or soup, but anything more complex probably has to come from a kitchen. Which is probably reserved for officers and then only dinner.
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I was watching Voyager last night and the episode "Shattered" came on. It's the season 7 episode where Voyager is struck by a temporal anomaly and the ship is split into different time frames with Chakotay as the only one aware of the changes initially. It was better than I remember and a fantastic premise for an episode: a present-day character has to team up with characters both past and future in order to solve the mystery of the anomaly and fix the timeline. Tons of callbacks to previous episodes. Guest stars include Seska, Chaotica, and THE FREAKIN' MACROVIRUS! I start thinking, this is the sort of episode that should have been Voyager's series finale. That's when it hits me, Next Generation already did it. Voyager truly is Diet TNG. All the flavor of TNG, but less fulfilling. To tie this back into food chat: Voyager comes from a food slot, Next Generation comes from the kitchen.
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Jan 23, 2017 17:15
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Does that make bad DS9 episodes a malfunctioning replicator?
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Jan 23, 2017 17:24
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Orv posted:Does that make bad DS9 episodes a malfunctioning replicator? 
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Jan 23, 2017 17:36
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Orv posted:Does that make bad DS9 episodes a malfunctioning replicator? Nah, it's when your partner spends all day making you a meal that you hate the taste of, but you choke it down because you love them and you appreciate the effort.
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Jan 23, 2017 17:39
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That replicator is functioning exactly as intended, though.
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Jan 23, 2017 17:53
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"poo poo's broken."
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Jan 23, 2017 17:58
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Orv posted:Calling meatloaf a food, facsimile or otherwise, is incredibly offensive. You shut your ignorant mouth. Good meatloaf is delicious and filling.
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Jan 23, 2017 17:58
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VanSandman posted:You shut your ignorant mouth. Good meatloaf is delicious and filling. Yeah, I don't know what lovely meatloaf you grew up with, but my mum makes a fantastic one.
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Jan 23, 2017 18:05
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I still feel bad for the vaporized crewman in that episode. No one even seems to notice. If it were TOS or TNG, I'd just laugh at another senseless redshirt death, but DS9 never did that, so I can't help but feel for the poor bastard who got to be the one exception. Which reminds me, I just watched The Galileo 7 last night (apparently there are still a few TOS episodes I haven't seen/don't remember), and Kirk and Spock are both hilariously reckless with people's lives. First, there's Kirk's insistence on putting off delivering medical supplies because he has "standing orders to investigate all quasars and quasar like phenomena." I mean, he has two days to spare before his rendezvous (wouldn't it be faster to just go straight to New Paris though?), but then of course something goes wrong with their shuttle and Spock and co get stranded. So every ten minutes or so the "Galactic High Commissioner" comes back to remind him that he has a deadline and Kirk acts like this guy (who I'm pretty sure is also Gary 7) is just a huge rear end in a top hat for prioritizing a planet of plague victims over seven crew members. Meanwhile, Spock and co are crashed on the Planet of the Giants and Spock is being all coldly logical and everyone's getting mad at him and acting all spacist because he's so "inhuman." One of the crewmen gets killed by a hilarious prop spear lobbed in the general direction of his chest during a (pointless) patrol and another gets killed later because Spock leaves him (alone, for some reason) to stand watch against a pack of angry giants. I guess that's one way to solve their weight problem. At this point, Kirk, who has a whole planet to search, starts beaming down search parties on foot to just, I don't know, walk around I guess? Even he says he's just hoping to get lucky, but honestly it's completely pointless and It's not like the writers didn't know how big the planet was. Naturally, there are a couple casualties (because, you know, killer giants), so Kirk's just wasted lives for not loving reason. He doesn't even seem to feel bad about it. It's more just, "welp." Of course, it wouldn't be Star Trek, if the day didn't get saved at the last possible minute, so this means Commissioner 7 comes in and tells him his time is up, but Kirk's still dragging his feet. First, he has to wait half an hour for the shuttle he sent to come back (shouldn't they have been recalled before the deadline?) and then he proceeds slowly at "space normal" speed so he has a little more time to scan. Of course, Spock gets the shuttle into orbit and burns all their fuel to make a plume the Enterprise can see. The shuttle burns up, but the transporter chief reports they've beamed five crewmen aboard and everyone cheers (remember, this episode is called "The Galileo 7"). Spock gets razzed for his 'human" response (even though his choice was logical), everyone laughs, cut to credits. Meanwhile, all I can picture is millions of plague victims waiting desperately for a medical shipment that's now going to be at least an hour late.
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Well when you put it that way it sounds absolutely loving retarded.
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