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Saladin Rising
Nov 12, 2016

When there is no real hope we must
mint our own. If the coin be
counterfeit it may still be passed.

Hey, if the DIY armor stops even one bullet it's done half its job.

The other half is to make people on the internet talk about it.:v:

Saladin Rising fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Feb 12, 2017

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Descar
Apr 19, 2010

Sinteres posted:

The SDF has the saddest looking tank I've ever seen.

https://twitter.com/AfarinMamosta/status/830850604209692673

Hahaha

Is there any video's of this tank?

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

I hope the paint was someone having a laugh instead of a serious attempt at camouflage.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Descar posted:

Hahaha

Is there any video's of this tank?

Yeah.

https://twitter.com/AfarinMamosta/status/829834682791493632

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Hell, if the most the enemy has is a couple of HMGs and ancient soviet RPGs, it'll do. I imagine they're mostly using it as an APC and fire platform, like those technicals with AA guns. Probably not meant to spearhead an assault into fortified positions as much as anchoring a foothold against infantry assault.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
Al Qaeda rebels have launched a huge offensive in Daraa on the southern front.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Sinteres posted:

The SDF has the saddest looking tank I've ever seen.

https://twitter.com/AfarinMamosta/status/830850604209692673

It has the same camo pattern as the Mystery Machine

Runaktla
Feb 21, 2007

by Hand Knit

The Ape of Naples posted:

It has the same camo pattern as the Mystery Machine

ISIS Leader: "If it weren't for those meddling Kurds..."

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

The Ape of Naples posted:

It has the same camo pattern as the Mystery Machine


You laugh, but with so much crazy poo poo that comes out of Syria, if I saw a picture of the Mystery Machine with a bmp turret bolted to the top rolling through the desert I wouldn't blink an eye.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Sinteres posted:

The SDF has the saddest looking tank I've ever seen.

https://twitter.com/AfarinMamosta/status/830850604209692673

It's the q*bert of tanks.

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

Hahah, just noticed, the thing at the top is a CCTV PTZ camera :v:

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Sinteres posted:

The SDF has the saddest looking tank I've ever seen.

https://twitter.com/AfarinMamosta/status/830850604209692673

Slap some spikes onnit and get it red an' it'll be right orky, a propa wagon.

Also, re: Turkey's missile ambitions, who would it use them on? The only two factions in the middle east with anything worth hitting via missile instead of air strike would be Saudi Arabia and Israel - off the top of my head.

Then again, I'm not sure who Turkey is especially belligerent towards, save the Kurds.

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
If Erdogan really wants to restore the Ottoman Empire, he's going to have to beat all 3.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

We've just launched a new report from the Atlantic Council, Breaking Aleppo, which examines the last months of the battle for Aleppo, and the lengths Russia and Syria went to to win it. The New York Times has a write up on it, and as part of the report we asked Forensic Architecture to review our work and they produced the following video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CJ-KKLzyBU

Ghetto Prince
Sep 11, 2010

got to be mellow, y'all

Friendly Humour posted:

Hell, if the most the enemy has is a couple of HMGs and ancient soviet RPGs, it'll do. I imagine they're mostly using it as an APC and fire platform, like those technicals with AA guns. Probably not meant to spearhead an assault into fortified positions as much as anchoring a foothold against infantry assault.

They wouldn't need an HMG or an RPG, an AK could swiss cheese that thing, but the HMG was specifically designed to turn armored cars into coffins , and any RPG would penetrate the front and keep going right out the back.

I think people still have this weird idea that modern combat is still like a WW2 movie and don't yet understand how horrifically deadly modern weapons are.

Postorder Trollet89
Jan 12, 2008
Sweden doesn't do religion. But if they did, it would probably be the best religion in the world.

Ghetto Prince posted:

They wouldn't need an HMG or an RPG, an AK could swiss cheese that thing, but the HMG was specifically designed to turn armored cars into coffins , and any RPG would penetrate the front and keep going right out the back.

I think people still have this weird idea that modern combat is still like a WW2 movie and don't yet understand how horrifically deadly modern weapons are.

It looks to me like its made of 1.5-2cm steel plates.

It'll keep you safe from most small arms, but any HMG calibre or even a really old anti-tank weapon will tear it to shreds.

Postorder Trollet89 fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Feb 13, 2017

GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.
I think it's safe to assume that the people actually building/using this tank have a pretty good idea what it's weaknesses are, given that lives depend on it.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
if only there was a simple way to test the effectiveness of the armour plates you're welding onto your selfmade APC, hmm...

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

GaussianCopula posted:

I think it's safe to assume that the people actually building/using this tank have a pretty good idea what it's weaknesses are, given that lives depend on it.

This thing has been in an active warzone for almost two years and keeps on ticking in the same war where we've had Leopard IIs crossing the border and the most modern of Russian armor being deployed and get scrap within a week by ATGMs. Whoever built it and runs it, because you know it's probably the same guy, is a testament to modern warfare.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

For perspective, here's the same tank from a post on Conflict News twitter. Everyone just shits on this thing, but, here we are, with this thing about to be in the probably the last major battle vs. ISIS.
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/666966554962173952

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Ghetto Prince posted:

They wouldn't need an HMG or an RPG, an AK could swiss cheese that thing, but the HMG was specifically designed to turn armored cars into coffins , and any RPG would penetrate the front and keep going right out the back.

I think people still have this weird idea that modern combat is still like a WW2 movie and don't yet understand how horrifically deadly modern weapons are.

You seem to have this weird idea that an AK has more penetrating power than a WW2 service rifle and heavy machine guns weren't commonplace in World War II, and think you can somehow judge the efficacy of this things armor based on an image from twitter.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

This is really interesting reporting. Definitely supports the argument that these hospitals were being deliberately targeted, not that that is particularly controversial.

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


Brown Moses posted:

We've just launched a new report from the Atlantic Council, Breaking Aleppo, which examines the last months of the battle for Aleppo, and the lengths Russia and Syria went to to win it. The New York Times has a write up on it, and as part of the report we asked Forensic Architecture to review our work and they produced the following video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CJ-KKLzyBU

Never knew geo-locating could be taken to this extreme.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Back Hack posted:

Never knew geo-locating could be taken to this extreme.

We had a lot more material that could have been used in the hospital building, but the deadline limited what we could do. We've enough to texture most of the interior, plus exterior locations that were also damaged. If we get funding we'll finish that and do other locations, hopefully even work with people on the ground on more recent attacks.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/831162130464247809

Flag of the new 5th corp.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

I'm starting to wonder if Turkey's deliberately playing a game of good cop/bad cop with Assad against the Kurds. Maybe Erdogan's willing to attack Efrin and Manbij, but if he can instead get the YPG to seek Assad's protection and make the SAA responsible for border security again, it seems like a much simpler solution to his problems than trying to occupy another huge chunk of territory outside his borders.

Saladin Rising
Nov 12, 2016

When there is no real hope we must
mint our own. If the coin be
counterfeit it may still be passed.

Throatwarbler posted:

Al Qaeda rebels have launched a huge offensive in Daraa on the southern front.
This was unexpected, it's been more than a year since anything of real note happened on the Daraa front.
Here's some okayish maps:
https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/831153216825987072

quote:

#Syria New rebel advance (blue area) in #Daraa city

https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/831153216825987072

quote:

another map shows more gains by #FSA in #Daraa

Note the river that runs through the middle of Daraa; the SAA's holdings to the south of the river are a bit isolated, and the SAA will have to cross the river to bring in any serious reinforcements.

Saladin Rising fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Feb 13, 2017

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Brown Moses I miss your old avatar.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

oh god that poor man's face :gonk:

ecureuilmatrix
Mar 30, 2011
Still a better vehicle than the other famous tank called Mouse!
https://twitter.com/RojavaRev/status/831212630534713346

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

ecureuilmatrix posted:

Still a better vehicle than the other famous tank called Mouse!
https://twitter.com/RojavaRev/status/831212630534713346

now i want to see it gently caress up ISIS fighters, maybe run a couple down.


Friendly Humour posted:



Except it's chibi :kimchi:

it does look like baby A7V. it looks like something straight out of world war 1.

Saladin Rising
Nov 12, 2016

When there is no real hope we must
mint our own. If the coin be
counterfeit it may still be passed.

Congrats to the Kurds:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/politics/michael-flynn-white-house-national-security-adviser/index.html

quote:

Embattled White House national security adviser Michael Flynn resigned Monday night, two sources tell CNN.

His departure came just after reports surfaced the Justice Department warned the Trump administration last month that Flynn misled administration officials regarding his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States and was potentially vulnerable to blackmail by the Russians.

"I inadvertently briefed the Vice President-elect and others with incomplete information regarding my phone calls with the Russian ambassador. I have sincerely apologized to the President and the Vice President, and they have accepted my apology," Flynn wrote according to a copy of his resignation letter obtained by CNN.
There goes the pro-Turkey voice in Trump's ear. Pretty much everyone else supports the SDF to varying levels.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Don't let the door hit you on the way out

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Hasta la Vista, Michael Flynn.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Grouchio posted:

Hasta luego, pendejo

Ftfy

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Brown Moses posted:

We had a lot more material that could have been used in the hospital building, but the deadline limited what we could do. We've enough to texture most of the interior, plus exterior locations that were also damaged. If we get funding we'll finish that and do other locations, hopefully even work with people on the ground on more recent attacks.

I'll do a voiceover for free, although it might end up sounding like a nature documentary.

"And here we find the ISIS member, hostis humani generis, in its natural habitat, the charnel pit..."

3peat
May 6, 2010

Interview with pisspiggrandad by chapo trap house https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-82-war-is-heck-feat-pisspiggranddad-21317

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

ecureuilmatrix posted:

Still a better vehicle than the other famous tank called Mouse!
https://twitter.com/RojavaRev/status/831212630534713346

The more I look at this thing, the more impressive it seems. Super narrow and small profile, highly angled armor all around without a flat surface anywhere and highest concentration of millimeters right where the gunner/driver sits. Whoever designed this thing knew what he was doing alright. Are there any specs for this anywhere? It looks like there's only one driver/gunner/commander. Anyone identify the machine gun?

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

3peat posted:

Interview with pisspiggrandad by chapo trap house

I like to imagine a far future where statements like this are all that archeologists find from our era.

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lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Cat Mattress posted:

I like to imagine a far future where statements like this are all that archeologists find from our era.

Internet archeologists, combing over forums ancient and forgotten buried deep in the lower depts of wayback machines, hypothetise that these podcasts were a religious rite of some sort.

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