Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
If I was playing this league was thinking of going a doomfletch inquisitor or whatever can clear the fastest, what builds are the best at crazy fast clear speed lately?

Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Nov 30, 2016

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Eezee
Apr 3, 2011

My double chin turned out to be a huge cyst

Rakeris posted:

So blade flurry Raider anyone?

I will embrace it. Raider was super crappy against bosses, but feels great to play otherwise and blade flurry is a very fun skill in my opinion.

Unlike the BV meta this sounds like an actually fun to play build.

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

If I was playing this league was thinking of going a doomfletch inquisitor or whatever can clear the fastest, what builds are the best at crazy fast clear speed lately?

blade flurry anything is my guess


like, im thinking of ditching bv and just run a "normal" "melee" zerker with it

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy

Bugsy posted:

If you are going to play the league you start over from scratch, so what you have in standard won't matter.

I'm more than aware, I was asking mainly to see if there was any deficiency that I'm not seeing since I'm fairly new so that way I know what not to do gear wise come the new league

funmanguy
Apr 20, 2006

What time is it?

Luna Was Here posted:

I'm more than aware, I was asking mainly to see if there was any deficiency that I'm not seeing since I'm fairly new so that way I know what not to do gear wise come the new league

Looks about right for a new league. The first day or two we will all look like we live under a bridge and only wear what we can't first eat.

From my experience though, scion chaos spark is kinda hardmode, especially as your first character in a new league. If you wanted to go spark i would recommend Inquisitor Crit Spark. I think that build is easier to get going at the start of a league, and has a higher potential going into the end game.

For other decent league starter builds, I still think flameblast totems(pizza sticks) are solid.

Here here and here

Other decent new league builds are Warchief Totems, RT Cyclone, Essence Drain, Explosive Arrow, or the timeless Neversink Tornado Shot.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!

funmanguy posted:

Looks about right for a new league. The first day or two we will all look like we live under a bridge and only wear what we can't first eat.
You're going to get an ex drop day 1, just because :mad:

The fact that I won't be able to really play until Saturday night is actually something I'm okay with, since I'm planning on doing an ignite Vortex dude to start so I'll need a Pyre. Hopefully they'll be affordable pretty fast.

moush
Aug 19, 2009

Rage Your Dream

Luna Was Here posted:

I'm more than aware, I was asking mainly to see if there was any deficiency that I'm not seeing since I'm fairly new so that way I know what not to do gear wise come the new league

Scion is pretty bad, try to figure out another ascendancy if you can.

On another note, how decent is Vaal Spark as a starter? On reddit there plenty of people saying they were making one to farm currency early and all you really needed was a tabula.

mbt
Aug 13, 2012

moush posted:

Scion is pretty bad, try to figure out another ascendancy if you can.

On another note, how decent is Vaal Spark as a starter? On reddit there plenty of people saying they were making one to farm currency early and all you really needed was a tabula.

it's good, it's been slowly neutered from the end game powerhouse it once was (voltaxic :rip:) but it's super easy still

also those people on reddit are copying zizaran who is a notorious "farm dried lake until level 80" guy, if that sounds good then vaal spark is absolutely #1 the spec for you

Hamburger Test
Jul 2, 2007

Sure hope this works!
Previously I didn't mind staying in Dried Lake till around 75-77, but with Atlas I think it's better to start mapping as soon as you can.

Hauki
May 11, 2010


man i get bored of lake by like, 70 tops

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!
I have a bad habit of going straight into maps at 63 or so.

Mince Pieface
Feb 1, 2006

Thinking blade flurry assassin, facebreaker totems, or SRS for my first char. I didn't enjoy playing BV pathfinder as the super meta build though since everything was crazy expensive, I'm worried blade flurry would be the same.

funmanguy
Apr 20, 2006

What time is it?

theshim posted:

I have a bad habit of going straight into maps at 63 or so.

I am in the same habit, but its a good habit.

Tykero
Jun 22, 2009
I go straight into maps as soon as I get my last quest passive in Merciless, but I play Softcore and hate farming the same area.


Still can't decide on a first build plan. I want to use Blade Flurry because it's sick nasty, but might do Crit Spark or Storm Call Inquisitor for the sake of an easier league start.

Non-crit Ele BF Raider 1, Non-crit Ele BF Raider 2, Crit Ele BF Inquis, Crit Storm Call Inquis

Tykero fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Nov 30, 2016

moush
Aug 19, 2009

Rage Your Dream

Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:

also those people on reddit are copying zizaran who is a notorious "farm dried lake until level 80" guy, if that sounds good then vaal spark is absolutely #1 the spec for you

Nah I usually get bored of DL pretty early in the 70s so I'll probably stick with facebreaker AW and hope the range nerfs aren't too bad.

Hauki
May 11, 2010


funmanguy posted:

I am in the same habit, but its a good habit.

I do the same unless I've got some like build defining unique I can't equip yet

moush
Aug 19, 2009

Rage Your Dream
Farm currency for Mjolner for 1 year for 55 ex back in the day so i could finally feel strong and rewarded.. Oh wait.. nerf'd and worth 2 ex now.. Get over it.. Go for Cospri, spend months optimizing, trading for currency, fire conversion gear, Izaro turmoils to make it strong.. Feel rewarded.. Oh wait.. nerf'd and for loving what? I can cast cold spells with spell echo around 9 or 10 times a second and have them in a 6l!.. so why the gently caress did you just cripple a huge investment 3l that hits up to ten times per second down to 4? It was already balanced.. now its poo poo.. you kill every fun build out there that people invest their time and effort into! Check it out.. Cospri's malice is 3 months old.. was heavily tested and balanced to begin with.. and you just hosed the entire build..again.. for NONSENSE? And you wonder why you're losing players like crazy? to grab a couple new ones every new league for a few weeks while the tried and true have had enough of the bullshit. Oh boohoo poor me right? A purple beyond league you have to rush to win.. Hey! I know!! I'll play BLADE VORTEX! Dumbasses!

dyzzy
Dec 22, 2009

argh
From Reddit I presume?

MerrMan
Aug 3, 2003

I wish we could get a concrete demonstration of the changes to Ancestral Warchief. That was the build I was leaning towards, but Chris was in the main reddit patch thread saying that this was a fix to it for being bugged as poo poo and targetting way too far away. Seems like it could be a really significant nerf, but there's no way to know!

ED / contagion looks pretty good but is super slow to get started, from what I understand. Also, Essence of Delirium will probably be a lot more rare and expensive compared to actual Essence League so that's got me worried.

Pizza Sticks sounds good but is very reliant on cast speed, which will be harder to come by on daggers because of less essences. It also looks juuuust on the border of being slower than what I'd prefer to play.

Flicker Strike builds always seem cool, and with the new Raider frenzy charge generation it's looking even better. I'm afraid it'd give me a headache to play, though, so I've always steered clear.

I'd also like to play something that can do Uber Lab early because there's a lot of value to be had from that. Not sure what that would be, though.


Last season my build petered out in high maps, so I might just say gently caress it and join the Blade Flurry meta. I really want to kill the Shaper and all the Guardians so I might just accept the higher prices on gear and give it a shot with something that is pretty certain to be powerful. I feel like I kind of missed out by not getting on the BV Pathfinder train at the start of last league - I knew it was going to be strong but didn't play it intentionally to not want to be too 'meta'.

moush
Aug 19, 2009

Rage Your Dream

dyzzy posted:

From Reddit I presume?

Official forums.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975/page/12/#p13914986

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP
Has anyone else been getting client crashes since switching to dx11? I get them all the bloody time now, even when using the normal client.exe. I made a forum thread about it with dxdiag dump and more details: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1774225. It's essentially unplayable at the moment.

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet
So now I'm torn between my initial Gladiator idea and a Raider idea. Both would use Blade Flurry to deal with trash and a single target for bosses (Frenzy for Gladiator, Viper Strike Raider). Both would use Blood Rage + Poacher's Mark + Ascendancy to stay at max Frenzy charges. Both are pure physical damage sword-and-board (well, maybe claw instead of sword). The differences would be Gladiator maxes out block and mainly deals bleeding damage (thinking Bringer of Rain for this guy to get a 7L and passive Endurance charge generation), while Raider would use a Snakebite for free Poison. I feel as though the Raider might be a bit squishy but has a higher clear speed ceiling. Halp?

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan
for the record: blade flurry is one of the best single target skills (because the 6 stacks drop at once), in fact the reduced aoe means it'll be now worse for pack clearing while staying the same for single target!

Hauki
May 11, 2010


Yeah I'm torn between like, berserker life flurry, raider life flurry, assassin ci flurry or whatever witch ci flurry.

Also still can't decide if I'm starting old man totem off the bat just for ease of gearing, sleepwalk through uber lab etc. until I can afford to gear out a good flurry set up, or just start there and try to farm up currency and buy what I need early before the rest of the server is competing for it.

Jusupov
May 24, 2007
only text

Goa Tse-tung posted:

for the record: blade flurry is one of the best single target skills (because the 6 stacks drop at once), in fact the reduced aoe means it'll be now worse for pack clearing while staying the same for single target!

And only half of the player base is going to be playing blade flurry

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.
Am I a bad person if I am sad that my beloved raider is now going to be played by dirty unworthies and I will no longer be the specialest of snowflakes?

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Soothing Vapors posted:

Am I a bad person if I am sad that my beloved raider is now going to be played by dirty unworthies and I will no longer be the specialest of snowflakes?

No. I felt the same way when 2.3 juggernaut happened.

Jinnigan
Feb 12, 2007

We shall pay him a visit. There will be a picnic. Tea shall be served.
Well since my planned builds are either stack poison+crit LA assassin or stack poison+crit blade flurry assassin, I guess I will be rolling an assassin.

YoungSexualNorton
Aug 8, 2004
These are good for the children's brains.
Think I've settled on a dual foil ele spectral throw inquisitor to start out with on hardcore. It should be nearly gear independent early on by relying on gems/auras for ele base damage, but it's also got a pretty high ceiling for investment later on for good crit/ele swords and jewelry.

I really like the idea of hitting 12% regen and 2% life leech for general survivability, but ~95% crit/400% crit mult may force me to take vaal pact. I guess at that point I'd drop some of the regen nodes and try to pick up some evasion and endurance charges.

Maddot_66
Apr 4, 2007
Take the bomb to C, C Dammit!!

:dukedog:

pork never goes bad posted:

Mathils Dreamfeather spectral throw looks pretty good with Raider now, though I might make as molten strike to be extra hipster. Need to figure out a way to apply poison. Thoughts?

I did that in essence and I loved it, and am looking forward to blazing through maps at 161% movespeed and blendering everything in my way. I used snakebite and 3 pacifism jewels for poison/perma phasing, but with the changes to that part of the ascendancy, I might have to eat the gem slot so I can benefit from that and the more evasion per frenzy charge in the passive tree.

modernlifeisadam
Dec 29, 2006

Goa Tse-tung posted:

melee EleGiggle phys LUL in 2016 4Head

? Cospri's doesn't allow you to do phys dmg but you have to use melee attacks hence me saying I'm going to play melee phys, since I just did play, ele melee, which was one of the best builds last league.

Raider looking crazy, RIP to Cospri's I guess, super boring item IMO, ran Discharge and primarily Vortex Pyre with it(not enough for Voll's Devotion, Discharge didn't feel worth it at all) I quit as soon as I had 82% crit and like 20k vortex dps, spin to win is just not fun once you've done it 20x. Vaal RF made it way cooler but dying due to a whiffed one in the 80s just isn't worth it.

I haven't played since Blade Flurry came out and looked at a vid, holy poo poo, they must've just put that in there to impress people and nerf it before the league start, that's way crazier than pre nerf IC or anything.

modernlifeisadam fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Nov 30, 2016

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde
The strand is looking good.

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost

funmanguy posted:

Looks about right for a new league. The first day or two we will all look like we live under a bridge and only wear what we can't first eat.

The plot of the game is kind of silly to be honest. You get thrown on the beach of a murderous island with nothing but your shirt on - no pants in Wraeclast - and two weeks later you're spree killing literal gods.

nightwisher
Dec 24, 2004

Bugsy posted:

The strand is looking good.



Too bad we can't zoom out nearly that far and appreciate the added scenery.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Act 1's outdated look and feel was one of the few peeves I still had with the game, by the 3.0 expansion I think the game is going to be rid of most of it's long time problems.

Ghost of Starman
Mar 9, 2008

peak debt posted:

The plot of the game is kind of silly to be honest. You get thrown on the beach of a murderous island with nothing but your shirt on - no pants in Wraeclast - and two weeks later you're spree killing literal gods.

Personally, I love it. I think it's justified by equal parts "the Player Character is just that :black101:" and "there are crystallized doomspells literally lying around from all the magical-bullishit cataclysms that have happened here."

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet
Essence tabs a'comin'



Item filter and new skill tree JSON info too

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

I will buy that day 1. Also why do they not have some sort of maps tab for stacking white maps.

zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?
Maps just need to stack to 3 and everyone will be a bit happier.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

10bux
Sep 10, 2008

zxqv8 posted:

Maps just need to stack to 3 and everyone will be a bit happier.

I'd be okay with this, but they might as well just make them the same as essences. A visual way of knowing what map 3 of the previous tier vendor for, would be really helpful as well.

  • Locked thread