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https://twitter.com/Jason1Goff/status/784895258144288768 Welp. The schism is complete.
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HarveyxCosmonaut posted:I doubt it. Too many congresspeople, senators, and governors need the whole republican base. While the base screams about RINOs I'd suspect most support their actual representative. I'd put money on Republican superdelegates in the next presidential primary. I look forward to 2020 when their base nominates a dog with Hitler's brain in it. You leave Arowlf Setter out of this.
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Evil Fluffy posted:I prefer the reality where Clinton won in 2008 and Obama's running in 2016. Imagine the landslide Candidate Obama would've had against Trump right now. He'd have to be up 10+ points. On the other hand his Presidency does sort of feel like a waste, both because he's been less progressive than a lot of us hoped and because he's been dealing with a Congress which feels that making GBS threads on the President at any and every opportunity is more important than doing their jobs. But that was probably going to happen anyway.
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The Republican's dumping him now gives every die hard Trumpeteer all the ammunition they need to declare the Party as a whole to be the reason for his loss. This further drives the divide between them and the rest of the party and also allows for the narrative that Trump could have won if those Rino's hadn't turned on him when he most needed them. This is going so well.
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Oct 9, 2016 00:26
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Casimir Radon posted:That's because everyone popped by after somebody said "Look at this retard!" I just muted that jackass, he's not even worth paying attention to in a train wreck sort of way
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Oct 9, 2016 00:26
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/Jason1Goff/status/784895258144288768
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bhsman posted:https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/784888161629573120 Bill Mitchell is a national treasure. Can we keep him after the election is over?  Sensible Thursday posted:Deplorable Party? Makes it hard to figure out what letter to put after their names but they've never really been about accommodating the press. They'll probably just use a swastika, to be honest.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Oh, is THAT what Republicans talk about? I thought it was about Hillary undermining someone who her husband may have raped. You are meant to.
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Casimir Radon posted:Rudy leads off with a an anecdote about loving his cousin... "Who hasn't lusted after their own daughter? Who hasn't gotten caught on a hot mic?" At the very least, Trump's meltdown is also dragging down Rudy Giuliani.
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remusclaw posted:The Republican's dumping him now gives every die hard Trumpeteer all the ammunition they need to declare the Party as a whole to be the reason for his loss. This further drives the divide between them and the rest of the party and also allows for the narrative that Trump could have won if those Rino's hadn't turned on him when he most needed them. This is going so well.
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Does tomorrow's debate have the potential to get higher ratings than the first? Has that ever happened?
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lfield posted:Thought experiment: which democrat could Trump have beaten? Martha Coakley
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I'm not sure if they still have the will or the institutional experience to make that kind of change. The voters that could have done it are fleeing the party and the leaders that could have done it lost their primaries.
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HarveyxCosmonaut posted:I'm thinking the final October surprise is evidence of completely illegal activities. Like video evidence of Trump with underage prostitutes. Depress republican turnout so bad that Hillary and the dems can get anything they want passed for 2 years. Donald Trump was doing business with Cuba and Iran despite sanctions, bribed Pam Bondi to drop a lawsuit against his University, and we've just had a tape of him talking about how he's been able to sexually assault women due to his fame. We already have evidence of illegal activities.
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Kilroy posted:On the other hand these fuckers are disavowing him and if that sticks then gently caress this gay Earth. Ayotte just last week said Trump makes a great role model for her children - now she's disavowing him? If the Dems can't hang Trump's carcass around her and every other Republican and drag their asses down into the Mariana Trench then I don't want to live on this planet anymore. No one who ever endorsed Trump is fit for public office. That's the beautiful part though. Ayotte and the like still need the nastiest of the Trump supporter's, so a disavowal of Trump is a disavowal of all those people who took on Deplorable as a badge of honor.
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Kilroy posted:I've flirted with this idea as well, but ultimately rejected it. 2008 Hillary ran a pretty standard Blue Dog Blairite Third-Way bullshit campaign, and her Presidency would have reflected that. I think there's no question she'll make for a better President and better candidate now, the only question is if Obama would have been so much better in 2016 to make up for it. I'm not sure another 8 years in the Senate would have made him better, or worse. if clinton had won in 08 it's a lot more likely something like simpson-bowles would've passed through congress so yeah it's likely for the best things turned out the way they did
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bencreateddisco posted:does tomorrow's debate even happen at all at this point Yes. Trump cannot WAIT to call Hillary the real misogynist for defending rape.
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 Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/Jason1Goff/status/784895258144288768 I don't see why they're complaining; I thought they were all about breaking up the United States' national power structures.
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Ireallylikeeggs posted:So we keep hearing "worse is coming." Couple of pages back, but, Downballot Voter Depression is where the good in the worse comes in. The more the field is winnowed down to the utterly unshakable core of Trumpites, the more and more the Senate and House come into play.
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Kilroy posted:If the Dems can't hang Trump's carcass around her and every other Republican and drag their asses down into the Mariana Trench then I don't want to live on this planet anymore. No one who ever endorsed Trump is fit for public office. I hope this is what happens. Unfortunately the media in a few years is going to take them all at their word of "they disavowed support" when it came out Donald Trump was the person everyone knew Donald Trump truly was.
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Alec Bald Snatch posted:if clinton had won in 08 it's a lot more likely something like simpson-bowles would've passed through congress
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Bassetking posted:Couple of pages back, but, Downballot Voter Depression is where the good in the worse comes in. The more the field is winnowed down to the utterly unshakable core of Trumpites, the more and more the Senate and House come into play. Some people will still vote R down ticket but there's plenty who just won't show up instead as well.
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Zophar posted:That's the only other scenario, by my measure: to learn nothing and roll the dice on yet another authoritarian shitheel in 4 years, because Trumpism is fused to the party like one of those mind-controlling wasps. That seems most likely. They analyzed the 2012 failure that warned them to avoid what became the core of Trump's campaign. They cannot bring themselves to change if they have to sacrifice in the short term.
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I wonder what is going to become of the internet hate machine when Hillary wins by a huge margin and with many millions of votes. It'll be worse when third parties underperform expectations. These people are absolutely convinced that they can derail campaigns and predict the future and they are so massively wrong it will either cause it to collapse or become even more obnoxious (probably more obnoxious).
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I love how the Republicans had studies more than a decade ago about changing demographics and how they had to do some outreach among Latinos and other minority groups, and instead they went the complete opposite direction. And now they are stuck with the stark reality that their base is completely toxic to the swing voters *both* parties need to win the White House, but that they don't have a chance without their base either. They've hosed themselves in a completely irreversible way and there are no longer any good options. They just have to ride this out until they finally fade away as a meaningful political party.
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lozzle posted:Bill Mitchell is a national treasure. Can we keep him after the election is over? https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/765930476188073984 we can't, apparently
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bencreateddisco posted:does tomorrow's debate even happen at all at this point Trump's ego is way too big to ignore it.
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Endorph posted:https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/765930476188073984 Well, that's one way to announce your retirement.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Yes. Trump cannot WAIT to call Hillary the real misogynist for defending rape. Trump is telegraphing his punch so obviously there's no way Clinton doesn't have a fully prepared response.
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Nenonen posted:Right on, Conan works much better for political jokes I don't know, there's rumors of a tape showing him at a cannibalistic orgy and changing into a snake.
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lozzle posted:Bill Mitchell is a national treasure. Can we keep him after the election is over?
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Mulva posted:I love how the Republicans had studies more than a decade ago about changing demographics and how they had to do some outreach among Latinos and other minority groups, and instead they went the complete opposite direction. And now they are stuck with the stark reality that their base is completely toxic to the swing voters *both* parties need to win the White House, but that they don't have a chance without their base either. They've hosed themselves in a completely irreversible way and there are no longer any good options. They just have to ride this out until they finally fade away as a meaningful political party.
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I'm interested in her response because I cannot honestly think of a way to do it without sounding like you're dismissing rape I mean outside of throwing Bill under the bus
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Holy gently caress there's still four weeks left before the election.
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theflyingorc posted:Ah, sorry. Yes, all rumor. Broadrick claims that Hillary thanking her for her work for the campaign at a fundraiser was intimidation/acknowledgment of her being quiet. The claims of attacking other women seem to come from a private conversation Hillary had with her best friend about Lewinski after everything came out. She called her some names. Probably called Gennifer Flowers names in private, especially since Flowers was very aware Clinton was married. This is pretty normal behavior for a spouse after discovery of an affair. And despite what people say, a lot of people stay with their spouses afterwards, especially when they seek marriage counseling, which is what the Clintons did after Lewinski (as well as spiritual advice from her pastor and others). Other than that, it's all conjuncture and hearsay by the usual suspects. If Donald attacks Hillary tomorrow, it will be a huge mistake. He will lose even more women who have been in her shoes ... and possibly men who stayed with their wives. Sorry if my answer was beaten- the thread is moving incredibly fast.
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