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mediaphage posted:even then he just hosed it up by walking in to where the real engineers were and insisting on a launch before they were ready if spaceX was once the 'good company' it isn't anymore
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I wonder at what point reporters can stop having to pretend anything elon says is actually true on its face
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:17 |
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they could've stopped in say, 2016 or so.
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:18 |
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i mean i’m confident they’re a fine company to launch satellites and poo poo, maybe the best (idk). but i can also imagine nasa being like ok the increasingly unstable ceo is becoming a national security concern
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:18 |
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mediaphage posted:i’ve only worked a couple but it was mostly classic sexist talk about women “i’d gently caress her” etc. i’m a white guy tho were you out? because i could see that going differently, depending.
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:20 |
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are you suggesting elon musk doesn't actually have any strategy to get "tesla robotaxis" working by august? you're saying he just...lied??
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:22 |
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once he had a dude in a zentai dancing to dubstep to announce his still non existent robot was probably a breaking point for many
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:22 |
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mediaphage posted:i mean i’m confident they’re a fine company to launch satellites and poo poo, maybe the best (idk). but i can also imagine nasa being like ok the increasingly unstable ceo is becoming a national security concern Everyone competent left years ago, much like what happened at tesla
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:22 |
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infernal machines posted:were you out? because i could see that going differently, depending. probably not in terms of going around talking about it, but i wasn’t closeted either; i don’t generally discuss my personal life at work unless i’m pseudo friends with someone
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Improbable Lobster posted:Everyone competent left years ago, much like what happened at tesla if you say so, i wouldn’t know
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mediaphage posted:probably not in terms of going around talking about it, but i wasn’t closeted either; i don’t generally discuss my personal life at work unless i’m pseudo friends with someone that's fair, i'm mostly thinking some of those kinda lovely attitudes dovetail but it also probably depends on the generation, and when it was.
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Tesseraction posted:https://www.thenation.com/article/society/tesla-racism-sexual-harassment/ that article is harrowing
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:33 |
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Interviewed with SpaceX in the hopes that they'd fly me out to Austin the week of the eclipse. Didn't manage to make it happen but I did learn that poo poo over there is held together with rubber bands, unpaid overtime, and engineers too young/enthusiastic about rockets to say no
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mediaphage posted:if you say so, i wouldn’t know https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/24/world/spacex-justice-department-lawsuit-hiring-scn/index.html https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-engineer-alleges-racial-discrimination-harassment-lawsuit-2021-11?op=1 https://www.reuters.com/sustainabil...ism-2024-03-05/
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Not a Children posted:Interviewed with SpaceX in the hopes that they'd fly me out to Austin the week of the eclipse. Didn't manage to make it happen but I did learn that poo poo over there is held together with rubber bands, unpaid overtime, and engineers too young/enthusiastic about rockets to say no tbh that sounds like a lot of tech jobs Improbable Lobster posted:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/24/world/spacex-justice-department-lawsuit-hiring-scn/index.html imo that’s not quite the same; that doesn’t mean he isn’t a shitstain that sucks value down with him tho
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Sagebrush posted:are you suggesting elon musk doesn't actually have any strategy to get "tesla robotaxis" working by august? you're saying he just...lied?? he didn't even say he'd have a working robotaxi service in August, he just said he'd "unveil" a robotaxi of some sort. he has made no other promises on that everything else is just media speculation, buzz, and hype
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:56 |
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it's going to be a mockup of a model 3 without a steering wheel and they'll show it going around a closed course.
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infernal machines posted:matt levine wrote about it earlier today. basically, spacex is a private company and they have a lot of leeway with reporting whatever the gently caress they want for profit/revenue it is true that they have a lot more flexibility and leeway in financial reporting as a private company... but there are still limits, they still can't lie or present things in a materially misleading way. and given that musk lies roughly as much as trump, and tends to hire a similar type of dishonest and manipulative sycophant as his employees, i would not be the least bit surprised if the financials they share with their investors are full of misleading tricks and bullshit. (personally I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla's financials turned out to have some goofy poo poo going on behind the scenes, and that's the public company that actually gets audited) Levine is correct that technically they don't have to follow GAAP, but if they don't, they still have to be clear about how and where they're departing from GAAP or what alternative basis of accounting they're using, or else they are misleading their investors. and they also might not have the same legal requirement as public companies to have their financial statements audited, but it would be very unusual for a company that size, with the amount of debt financing that such companies usually have, not to have banks or investors that demand an audit. it's possible! but also very unusual, and a big red flag if so. (investors in any big company, let alone an Elon Musk-led one, would be fools to accept annual financial statements that aren't audited... but I do realize that people who are still investing in Musk companies in 2024 probably ain't the most cautious, by-the-book investors.) but if they are doing any book-cooking, it's still the kind of thing that's real hard to prove until a criminal investigation or lawsuits start flying and discovery happens, and no investor is going to want to start making lawsuits until their wallet's gotten hurt, and their wallets aren't getting hurt as long as SpaceX keeps putting out financials that say the business is OK. typing all of that inspired me to see what financial information is available on SpaceX, and the most recent thing I can find is an Aug 2023 WSJ article that trumpets SpaceX's first quarterly profit after years of "significant but narrowing" losses and "doubling revenues". WSJ says their reporting is based on their review of "documents" - not "financial statements" or "accounting records", just... "documents". WSJ posted:Unlike those corporate giants, SpaceX is privately owned and keeps details about its finances under wraps, as do many other private companies. Some people with stakes in SpaceX have no idea how much money the company makes or loses. Many SpaceX investors view their holdings as a long-term bet and say they aren’t concerned about seeing results. 1) Musk/SpaceX benefit from having perfect idiot bazinga investors who have fully bought into the hype and don't give a poo poo about basic due diligence like "asking to see the company's books once in a while"; and 2) after six years of not leaking anything, someone (I'm putting a $10 bet on someone instructed by Musk, if not Musk himself) leaked some financial "documents" to the Journal for the only quarter that they could manage to make look good, and have not done it again since then, for reasons
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 17:20 |
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either that or some hideous monstrosity like the cybertruck, but in cab form. like a perfectly elliptical minivan
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...! posted:the problem is definitely solved This is what we traded the climate for.
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ahhaahahahaha yessssssssss https://twitter.com/bankstonatlaw/status/1778814093001896183
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http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2024/04/12/tesla-driverless-self-driving-promotion-free-florida-elon-musk/ my local paper wrote a… something quote:The space egg was comfortable and cool on a hot spring day. On an enormous dashboard computer tablet, he punched in a destination a few miles away. He backed out, which the tech requires, and started the magic. quote:Howe went to Illinois to watch the eclipse in his Tesla. He did 2,000 miles round-trip on Full Self-Driving. He listened to audiobooks, relaxed. It’s hard to do much sandwich-eating or email-checking, he said, because the car yells at you if you take your eyes off the road too long.
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https://twitter.com/lindayaX/status/1778620234175512934
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 18:11 |
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I sincerely don't understand why that is preferable to just driving yourself? You still have to be ready to take over at a moment's notice so what's the point?
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 18:12 |
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i was out and about the other day at japantown and there were a constant stream of tourists arriving by waymo self driving. It had not really occurred to me that they would be tourist attractions but I guess it makes sense that they would be.
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Gubbinal Girl posted:I sincerely don't understand why that is preferable to just driving yourself? You still have to be ready to take over at a moment's notice so what's the point? because assholes can be super loving smug about it and crow on about their Tesla.
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 18:29 |
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how many minutes before an edit pops up that replaces Freeze Peach with "PUSSY IN BIO"
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 18:29 |
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Gubbinal Girl posted:I sincerely don't understand why that is preferable to just driving yourself? You still have to be ready to take over at a moment's notice so what's the point? because they're not ready to take over at a moments notice
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Linda using up those free after effects tutorials
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 18:32 |
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how does ai solve the national debt?
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 18:32 |
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DarkSol posted:Amazon subsidiary Zoox what in the world lol the rest of the article is pretty obvious stuff though. we knew they didn't have approval for a robotaxi service or even approval for autonomous driving without having a person ostensibly ready to take over at any moment elon pretty obviously just tweeted that to stop TSLA's freefall. as always that was a pretty dumb move, whatever he presents on his hitler joke date is not going to match expectations and the stock will continue its dive
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rotor posted:because they're not ready to take over at a moments notice this is it i think most of us would love the option to have real life robot cars for the least fun bits of driving but
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 18:33 |
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also thisTesseraction posted:https://www.thenation.com/article/society/tesla-racism-sexual-harassment/ meshes with the other class-action suit against tesla brought by other black employees. to be clear it's horrifically hosed up, and this one has sexism to boot, but it's also routine for tesla apparently
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Gubbinal Girl posted:I sincerely don't understand why that is preferable to just driving yourself? You still have to be ready to take over at a moment's notice so what's the point? it is nice in stop and go traffic during rush hour i think tesla owners just want driver but aren't rich enough to hire one
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# ? Apr 12, 2024 18:36 |
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I asked AI to give me a visual representation of "divorced" and this came out: https://twitter.com/agarra_pala/status/1778833889999356035?t=LXM3Ppql1XXlMjIxtER0lA&s=19
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Beeftweeter posted:also this i have worked in factories and while yeah it was always kinda ... like this ... but at least the ones where i worked when the management showed up the slurs mostly stopped
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Blotto_Otter posted:it is true that they have a lot more flexibility and leeway in financial reporting as a private company... but there are still limits, they still can't lie or present things in a materially misleading way. and given that musk lies roughly as much as trump, and tends to hire a similar type of dishonest and manipulative sycophant as his employees, i would not be the least bit surprised if the financials they share with their investors are full of misleading tricks and bullshit. (personally I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla's financials turned out to have some goofy poo poo going on behind the scenes, and that's the public company that actually gets audited) legally speaking, as a private company in the US: they don't need to follow GAAP, they don't need to have their financials audited, and they don't need to disclose any of that to investors. of course a savvy investor (or the kind likely to drop hundreds of millions or more) is going to want to see something, but as trump's financial fraud trial showed, they'll apparently accept pretty much anything as long as the numbers look good as you say, all of that only becomes apparent (and any fraud illegal) when an actual outside audit or criminal investigation comes into play
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Luigi Thirty posted:http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2024/04/12/tesla-driverless-self-driving-promotion-free-florida-elon-musk/ i can say from first-hand experience that fsd is absolute garbage in florida and anyone impressed by it (or thinks it's better than a human driver) is an absolute rube
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Bugsy posted:how does ai solve the national debt? i'd like elon to explain why any of this matters at all to anyone
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https://x.com/edzitron/status/1778840883363803438
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