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AbrahamLincolnLog
Oct 1, 2014

Note to self: This one's the shitty one
Notably there are rules that Blizzard just doesn't care to enforce anymore. RP realms actually have specific behavior and naming rules that prevent specifically targeting roleplayers with "verbal or physical abuse" and are supposed to change any names that are lore-breaking or not fantasy.

It's technically still a policy but if you spend a few seconds on a roleplay server you will see that it just isn't enforced any more.

Though in the days that it was, it was pretty glorious. There were guilds who would specifically transfer to RP realms because they couldn't cut getting a server first on their PvE/PvP realm. They'd show up with a ton of policy breaking names, the whole server would report them, and basically the entire guild would get their names changed. <Mean Girls> on Wyrmrest Accord was hilarious in particular.

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FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Soulex posted:

I have been banned for a few days in WoW for cursing. I also was forced a name change because Judeophobia was really offensive to someone apparently.

I also pointed out the fact that there was a profanity filter. They didn't care.

Looked it up. Still got the email. Back in 2006.

Offense: Harassment Policy Violation - Obscene/Vulgar
This category includes both clear and masked language which:
• Is crude and offensive in nature
• Is an inappropriate reference to human anatomy or bodily functions
• Is pornographic in nature

Harassment Policy Violation - Inappropriate
This category includes both clear and masked language which:
• Is a mildly inappropriate reference to human anatomy or bodily functions
• Is otherwise considered objectionable



Details (Note - Times are listed in Greenwich Mean Time, GMT):
2007/05/20 04:21:26 Soulex LocalDefense - Nagrand SHUT THE gently caress UP ABOUT YOUR GODDAMN EGG
2007/05/20 04:22:20 Soulex LocalDefense - Nagrand hey this is me :D this is someone who gives a gently caress :/ notice how they are 2 completely different people
2007/05/20 04:23:44 Soulex LocalDefense - Nagrand jackass
2007/05/20 04:24:13 Soulex LocalDefense - Nagrand are you seriously this loving dumb?
2007/05/20 04:24:31 Soulex LocalDefense - Nagrand kill yourself before you reproduce
2007/05/20 04:25:46 Soulex LocalDefense - Nagrand loving moron
Did you just make a long post about how badly you were owned by someone in WoW?

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

FactsAreUseless posted:

Did you just make a long post about how badly you were owned by someone in WoW?

Yup. Showing they enforce the rules over stupid poo poo. But then again, it was easier to get in trouble back then.

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Soulex posted:

I have been banned for a few days in WoW for cursing. I also was forced a name change because Judeophobia was really offensive to someone apparently.

I also pointed out the fact that there was a profanity filter. They didn't care.

Looked it up. Still got the email. Back in 2006.

Offense: Harassment Policy Violation - Obscene/Vulgar
This category includes both clear and masked language which:
• Is crude and offensive in nature
• Is an inappropriate reference to human anatomy or bodily functions
• Is pornographic in nature

Harassment Policy Violation - Inappropriate
This category includes both clear and masked language which:
• Is a mildly inappropriate reference to human anatomy or bodily functions
• Is otherwise considered objectionable



Details (Note - Times are listed in Greenwich Mean Time, GMT):
2007/05/20 04:21:26 Soulex LocalDefense - Nagrand SHUT THE gently caress UP ABOUT YOUR GODDAMN EGG
2007/05/20 04:22:20 Soulex LocalDefense - Nagrand hey this is me :D this is someone who gives a gently caress :/ notice how they are 2 completely different people
2007/05/20 04:23:44 Soulex LocalDefense - Nagrand jackass
2007/05/20 04:24:13 Soulex LocalDefense - Nagrand are you seriously this loving dumb?
2007/05/20 04:24:31 Soulex LocalDefense - Nagrand kill yourself before you reproduce
2007/05/20 04:25:46 Soulex LocalDefense - Nagrand loving moron
Sounds like you were the one who got griefed.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

AbrahamLincolnLog posted:

Notably there are rules that Blizzard just doesn't care to enforce anymore. RP realms actually have specific behavior and naming rules that prevent specifically targeting roleplayers with "verbal or physical abuse" and are supposed to change any names that are lore-breaking or not fantasy.

It's technically still a policy but if you spend a few seconds on a roleplay server you will see that it just isn't enforced any more.

Though in the days that it was, it was pretty glorious. There were guilds who would specifically transfer to RP realms because they couldn't cut getting a server first on their PvE/PvP realm. They'd show up with a ton of policy breaking names, the whole server would report them, and basically the entire guild would get their names changed. <Mean Girls> on Wyrmrest Accord was hilarious in particular.

Pretty sure it's not so much that it's not enforced so much as that most of the people breaking the rules make level 1 alts, log in to Goldshire, and then delete the character after a half hour worth of inept trolling. There's a flood of them though, so tons slip through the cracks due to most of them being one off characters that no one ever sees again.

In other news, I dug up this old gem of MMO griefing earlier today and thought i'd share it. It's from Asheron's Call. Cracked had it in an article about the seven most elaborate dick moves in gaming. It's arguably not even the worst one on the list too.

quote:

Turbine ran a year-long story triggered by players shattering precious crystals, because chasing shiny objects and killing things are all MMO gamers ever do. Unless you want them to in which case they'll do the exact opposite. The "Defenders of the Shard" set up camp around the sixth and final crystal, the Shard of the Herald, the prison of Bael' Zhaeron, Hopeslayer, and nicknamed it Harry.

Twenty-four hours a day they defended it against other players and sacrificed themselves to it, because Asheron's Call monsters can level up by killing players. The Harry Krishnas impaled themselves on His Spikiness until He was practically invincible. This one group was holding up the next update for every server of the entire game. The developers had to step in, and in the awesome manner of movie bad guys they stepped down to fight the players on their own level. Instead of simply rewriting the crystal as gone, they appeared in-game as mythical characters and called two high-level players to join their attack.

These players had completed an earlier quest making them indebted to the story's cause but, brilliantly, one had already defected and was now a Disciple of Harry. The admins donned their epic weapons, sallied forth and got their asses kicked. They were killed by their own players in a world they'd built, making this officially a science-fiction movie. Twenty Turbine staff watching on a break-room screen were treated to players jumping up and down on the admin's corpses. Because Asheron's Call doesn't have a crouch button. Worse, Harry had resisted command level instructions to power down. The staff joked that He had attained sentience. Understand: If a computer program ever escapes and kills us it won't be because of the military, it'll be because gamers trained it to.

The staff tried again. And again. They got third time lucky in their own game, and instead of banning people they paid tribute to their valiant foes. The Thistledown server got a unique monument, the "Shard Vigil Memorial," honoring the players who had kicked the company's rear end for so long.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Feb 14, 2015

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.
I wonder what it is with Turbine games and player nicknaming bosses Harry.

Astrobastard
Dec 31, 2008



Winky Face

Archonex posted:

Pretty sure it's not so much that it's not enforced so much as that most of the people breaking the rules make level 1 alts, log in to Goldshire, and then delete the character after a half hour worth of inept trolling. There's a flood of them though, so tons slip through the cracks due to most of them being one off characters that no one ever sees again.

Nah they're all still looked into, deleted characters are stored, and the chat at the time is automatically added to the right click reports, character deleted or not. RP servers are a nightmare for things like this in general as instead of right click reporting meaning we get everything needed, instead you have a 500 word report about constant harassment even though they refuse to use ignore (which is needed to take things further as they have to use other characters and intentions at that point are clear) which will make no difference to the outcome anyway. Alot are reporting what sounds like could be serious harassment outside of the game and they just do not loving get it that at that point it's a bit over a GM's head. Yeah im sure that 3 hour suspension will sure stop the petty bickering on facebook and guild forums -__- Cursing in public chat generally will not land you in any serious trouble unless you're being inflammatory enough for a few people to report you at the same time, but the punishments are pretty minor in those cases anyway. To the previous guy that got suspended and pasted the chat, it was not for cursing, but for inciting suicide, which is something that has to be taken seriously regardless of context for legal reasons. But yeah it's always more satisfying to bust someone that knew they were violating policy and trying to cover their tracks by deleting characters, same with scammers that try to split gold over characters and other accounts, or buy poo poo from the AH before the gold can removed for example. Im taking it all son

XkyRauh
Feb 15, 2005

Commander Keen is my hero.

Morglon posted:

I wonder what it is with Turbine games and player nicknaming bosses Harry.
A reference to Michael Crichton's book "Sphere," maybe? :)

taels
Oct 19, 2012

K:CID:X
I've been a busy bee

The last page of the try hard ffxiv thread

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

taels posted:

I've been a busy bee

The last page of the try hard ffxiv thread

If you think that anyone is going to go hunting through your post history just to find some posts in the MMO HMO then you are mistaken

Okay maybe some will but I am extremely lazy

Smart Car
Mar 31, 2011

QuarkJets posted:

If you think that anyone is going to go hunting through your post history just to find some posts in the MMO HMO then you are mistaken

Okay maybe some will but I am extremely lazy
It's just the classic "Hey look at me I took this poop and smeared it all over my body" style trolling. Masterful display.

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xsphGldaCU

Doesn't seem like much griefing happens in this video but it deserves an honorable mention due to the previous Ralph Bluetawn videos.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Smart Car posted:

It's just the classic "Hey look at me I took this poop and smeared it all over my body" style trolling. Masterful display.

Ha ha! The joke is upon you! I was merely pretending to be retarded!

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

kirbysuperstar posted:

Ha ha! The joke is upon you! I was merely pretending to be retarded!

It's just the good old "My feelings are hurt so I'm going to act like I'm the puppet master" out we've all seen so many times before.

Renegret fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Feb 15, 2015

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Renegret posted:

It's just the good old "My feelings are hurt so I'm going to act like I'm the puppet master" out we've all seen so many times before.

A classic reverse PRC gambit!

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

QuarkJets posted:

If you think that anyone is going to go hunting through your post history just to find some posts in the MMO HMO then you are mistaken

Okay maybe some will but I am extremely lazy

okay i did it, here's a quote

taels posted:

You press 3 stupid buttons in a row. That more or less defines a signicant portion not only of the majority of classes but actual fundamentals. No autoattack, no building to, no haste, no delay, basically no thinking or math other that +28vit is better than +24vit.

poo poo you don't even can't even really write macros for all your skills like you could In ffxi and organize them into books and with much more diversity.

Maybe I haven't been able to skillchain yet because my groups timing is off since even your basic attacks look like loving Hitler super sayan level poo poo; for fucks sake they removed the elemental wheel. Either yoshi is a retard, his playerbase/target demographic is or its just a fuckin ticking theme park time bomb of a game with no depth in its mechanic.


I love playing and I'm having fun, but its a piece of poo poo compared to the basework Tanaka built and could have delivered had circumstances been in his favor.

And yea launch and beta test 1.0 blew. But how many of you fucki fanboys actually put hours in, or are legacy at all? Before ya talk about my rose tinted Stockholm. I was actually in Sweden.

Weather sucked but country was rad with potential.

Also about copy pasted environments. Holy poo poo like are is some beautiful achievement of map/world development.

I still remember the first cross continent ferry I took in eq in 1999, my first selbina ferry in ffxi in 2002. A level 60 notorious monster, ew what's this mechanic special bosses with sick lootz and a metagame in and of themselves?- arr's zones are miniscule, uninspired but more dense to look planned, developed, worldy.

Even the biggest yoshi cock sucklers admit there's zero concept of risk/worldiness moving through the world. I made it alone to all 3 city's and nor dhona with a level 3 alt iirc. Or maybe not limsa but still.

And open world.pvp sounds great in nostalgia, but then I remember spending 12 hours getting my level20 hear back from an rear end in a top hat in everquest. Go play mortal online, its a jenky split of morrowind and uo and its thrilling but miserable to actually play.

i didn't actually read it but im guessing its an extremely bad post

e:

taels posted:

triple posting because

Also gently caress your :shitpost: Meet my friend straw drizzle man. You failed to address what I was talking about, which is the difference in architecture as honest question. I'm not a troll and wont be dragged into your faggotry thank you good sir
Smilds

Daman
Oct 28, 2011
this person was griefed by being shot by a teammate in his competitive videogame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCOx6paWt7k

watch to the end for memes

Fruit-by-the-Foot Fetish
Aug 3, 2012
DeadMansHandA8 asks a relevant question - why is it becoming more common for friends to masturbate together in Counter Strike?? Is "this kind of behavior" here to stay? Will Valve ever take action against those who jerk-off while playing?? Will Overwatch catch them??

Fruit-by-the-Foot Fetish fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Feb 17, 2015

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

hampton posted:

DeadMansHandA8 asks a relevant question - why is it becoming more common for friends to masturbate together in Counter Strike?? Is "this kind of behavior" here to stay? Will Valve ever take action against those who jerk-off while playing?? Will Overwatch catch them??

if you cant j/o with pals in a video game then the terrorists really have won

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!
More importantly: if they were wearing their pendants, does that give them an unfair advantage? Should we put asterisks by their scores?

Jadz
Jan 8, 2004

Stuck in the middle with you.

Tamayachi posted:


Sometimes I honestly have no idea what some of these names were supposed to be when I see them because of that overzealous filter.

You are probably already aware, but in case you aren't, it is possible to get rid of the profanity filter, and extremely easy. Basically, you replace the English "Bad Word List" with the Chinese one which is basically empty.

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax
http://goo.gl/Ns0Do3

some very epic stream griefing , a guy gets some unexpected visitors in arma 2... **goon warning**

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

THE PENETRATOR posted:

**goon warning**

oh poo poo, thanks for the trigger warning there

I have forever been scarred by goons ever since they ... wait ... OH GOD THERE ARE GOONS EVERYWHERE! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *runs screaming from the forums*

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Jadz posted:

You are probably already aware, but in case you aren't, it is possible to get rid of the profanity filter, and extremely easy. Basically, you replace the English "Bad Word List" with the Chinese one which is basically empty.
Haha that English list. I'm impressed with its breadth, banning everything from "gobshite" to "yiff" while also tossing out "pie" and "pocket", but taking time to narrow in on the obscene acts of "angrypenguin" and "hotcarl".

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
Goatse and tubgirl are in there too.

Rutkowski
Apr 28, 2008

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS GUY?
Yeah I'm almost never allowed to use my primary MMO nick Janus because of the obscenity filter. :/

Jadz
Jan 8, 2004

Stuck in the middle with you.
Dark Souls 2 has a PVP mechanic called "covenants" which allow you to join certain factions that have different goals, abilities, territories and rewards. One of the covenants - the Rat King Covenant - is unique in that instead of invading the game world of another player, you drag another player who has "trespassed" a particular area into your own game, trapping them in that area with you (and the NPC creatures who are hostile to them, but not to you) until they kill you, make it to the boss room, or die a horrible death.

One of the areas where you can do this is also used by many players (myself included) to farm for a particular item - the Vanquisher's Seal, which makes your bare fists do a ludicrous amount of damage. The method for farming this item involves causing a particular enemy to respawn by using an item called a Bonfire Ascetic. The trade-off is that when you use a BA, the difficulty of the area increases by an entire NG+ cycle, and anyone who plays 'Souls games can tell you that upping the difficulty to NG+ while you're still at a low level is not insignificant. Enemies have much more health, hit much harder and are generally more aggressive. Oh, and certain areas feature even stronger versions of normal enemies called Red Phantoms, which glow a dark red color and will gently caress your poo poo up if you mess up even a little.

Anyway, the particular item I was farming for required me to use four bonfire ascetics, which bumped the area up to NG+4 difficulty. Not a problem for me, because I was prepared and had a plan.

But it gave me an idea - other people, who are at the same low level as me, would probably NOT be prepared to deal with NG+4 enemies, in addition to a Macho Man Randy Savage cosplayer who beats people to death with his bare hands. So I joined the Rat King Covenant, and have been luring hapless newbies to their doom all night.

If they make it past the rats - did I mention they inflict a "petrify" ticker with each bite that will insta-kill a player even at full health, because they do that - they're usually near death and running for their lives, at which point Randy Savage jumps out from behind the pillar where he was hiding and delivers the killing blow with his bare hands.


Nobody has gotten out alive yet :getin:

Jadz fucked around with this message at 09:38 on Feb 19, 2015

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Did you at least post "Time to step into the squirt-circle, son!" in whatever passes for DS2 chat?

Pocky In My Pocket
Jan 27, 2005

Giant robots shouldn't fight!






Dark souls doesn't have chat

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Is it really griefing when you're doing exactly what the game expects of you?

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

WarpedNaba posted:

Did you at least post "Time to step into the squirt-circle, son!" in whatever passes for DS2 chat?

The best that you can do is drop a rock that emits a loud "I'M SORRY" or "THANK YOU" right after you kill them. I like it better than chat, actually

Wild T
Dec 15, 2008

The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.

Dr Pepper posted:

Is it really griefing when you're doing exactly what the game expects of you?

Griefing isn't about what you did or how you did it. Griefing is about how mad you can make other people by doing it.

TheRagamuffin
Aug 31, 2008

In Paradox Space, when you cross the line, your nuts are mine.

Jadz posted:

a Macho Man Randy Savage cosplayer

Okay, you can't just drop this on us and then not include a screenshot.

Jadz
Jan 8, 2004

Stuck in the middle with you.

Dr Pepper posted:

Is it really griefing when you're doing exactly what the game expects of you?
Most players - especially new players - are expecting to face enemies of a standard difficulty. I went out of my way to not only raise the difficulty by four NG+ cycles, but to keep my character's level low (thanks to a newly-implemented item) so that low-level, inexperienced players (or experienced players who *think* they know what to expect) suddenly walk into a death trap. I got more than a dozen people this evening alone, and not one of them made it past the first room of rats. There's just too many of them, and as soon as they realize how hard my rats hit, they panic and start running around the arena, which just attracts even more rats until they are overwhelmed and cornered. Even by Dark Souls standards, it's pretty dickish. I thought about activating some of the area's traps that release acid, which would add insult to injury by breaking their equipment as they went through it, but it'd be a waste - nobody's made it that far, yet.

TheRagamuffin posted:

Okay, you can't just drop this on us and then not include a screenshot.

This is how he looks currently. I know the real Macho Man prefers tassels and super-flamboyant colors like yellow and pink, so as soon as I'm able I have plans to dress him up in the Butterfly Skirt and the Lion Warrior Cape. I prefer the Warrior cape to the Mage cape for this because the Warrior cape leaves his buff, bare chest exposed for his victims to marvel at :D

I only wish DS2 had a cowboy hat and sunglasses.

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Jadz fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Feb 19, 2015

Sanctum
Feb 14, 2005

Property was their religion
A church for one
Re: Ascetic griefing

When you start the game you can pick an ascetic as a free starting item. Just rush the dragonrider and kill him with no upgrades and then pop an ascetic in heide's flame to up the difficulty of that area to NG+. Hell you don't even have to rush to him with no ugprades, there's a pretty generous range where you can find summons. Since NG+ is tailored to be challenging to characters that have finished the game, and you are in one of the first areas, the guys you summon into your world will be getting curbstomped.

They don't really lose anything for dying as summoned phantom, but same as with the rat covenant they are still dying. Whether or not something is actually taken away from them as a consequence is moot, people don't like getting killed especially in completely unfair circumstances. I posted a video of it a while back but I wont bother reposting it since it's really just some guy trying to block an attack, losing half his health, and then dying shortly after.

Similarly I got a character to the fume knight at a relatively low soul memory (1.2mil SM) and then stayed there, pumping an ascetic every time I beat him and summoning more people on their first game-cycle into an increasingly difficult bossfight. Fume knight is considered one of the hardest bosses, FromSoft records loss percentages and he has the highest of any boss. So why not make him even harder? By NG+4 bonfire intensity he was oneshotting half my summons with his left-handed weapon swings which is hilarious. Now that the agape ring exists, I've been thinking about doing the same expect for a really early boss. Probably flexile sentry since the last giant, pursuer, and dragonrider are all total chumps and people wouldn't notice a difference aside from the boss taking longer to kill.

Nebelwerfer
Jul 25, 2008

He carried our avenging steel over the Rhine,
He drank the emperor's toast from the Danube.

THE PENETRATOR posted:

http://goo.gl/Ns0Do3

some very epic stream griefing , a guy gets some unexpected visitors in arma 2... **goon warning**

heh so epic, epic for the win :c00l:

Nebelwerfer fucked around with this message at 12:00 on Feb 19, 2015

Fruit-by-the-Foot Fetish
Aug 3, 2012

Dr Pepper posted:

Is it really griefing when you're doing exactly what the game expects of you?

It's a qualified yes, I'd say. Griefing wouldn't be possible without challenging expectations, that can come about as specifically as one expecting one's opponent to do a bow after a duel, or as generally as forgetting one's on the Internet. There will always be low hanging fruit that gets upset too easily though, that's why there are so many SS13/MMO text walls and cheating videos that get passed off as griefs here. Simply not doing what the other guy expects is griefing, so that can include playing a game as intended and the video posted awhile back of the TF2 MLP server is an example.

TheSpiritFox
Jan 4, 2009

I'm just a memory, I can't give you any new information.

QuarkJets posted:

The best that you can do is drop a rock that emits a loud "I'M SORRY" or "THANK YOU" right after you kill them. I like it better than chat, actually

I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I'M SOR...

For Dark Souls 2 griefing I've cheated myself in a shitload of invasion orbs on the XBox version. The reason this falls under griefing is because From hosed the game up a good bit and invasions are rare as poo poo. Like, I started playing this back when the first DLC was released and the population was really high and I got an invasion or two for every 10 or so hours of playtime. It's even rarer now especially on NG. But now I'm running around the Luna belltower invading people left and right as a dark spirit and my mission is specifically to murder the poo poo out of the grey spirits. Before the recent patch grey phantoms got upgrade materials for killing hosts and hosts just got a few souls, so I was essentially invading people's games and denying them from farming. Now hosts get upgrade materials too so I kill the greys to deny them and then kill the host.

I have spent so much time in the bell tower and I have never, ever seen another dark spirit other than myself when I'm the one hosting the invasions of grey spirits, so I'm pretty sure that all of the "visions of dark spirit but hole" messages on the bridge to the entrance of luna tower are all because of me (there's like 20 of them and they all have a shitload of rates)

Oh and my loadout is an amazing gimmick loadout. Pyromancy with a wrist item that makes pyro hit harder, warmth for healing and lingering flames for damage. For those who don't know what lingering flames are, it's a magic where you drop a fireball that floats in mid air, and when someone comes near it it explodes with a fairly large radius of damage. With my setup even with low stats lingering flames tend to do about 850 damage which is most of a life bar at the levels I'm invading at. I run into fights in progress and start essentially dropping landmines all over the place and they gently caress people up really badly. Plus, most people are so unused to lingering flames and warmth that they don't know how to fight in and around that poo poo. I went ahead and added a flame estoc with flame weapon for maximum cheesy bullshit. It's really nice doing 150 damage through people's low fire resist shields.

I also have a mage character who just hides in the bell tower with that chameleon spell and lets people search until they start breaking things trying to figure out what I turned into, and then exits through the boss door to send them back to their worlds. Then goes back and hides and does it again.

TheSpiritFox fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Feb 19, 2015

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

Dr Pepper posted:

Is it really griefing when you're doing exactly what the game expects of you?

It's kind of been part and parcel of griefing ever since players began making arbitrary rules within their games

Shooting honorable lightsaber duelists in the face in Jedi Knight, shooting k-style imitators in the face in Gunz...

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PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

a medical mystery posted:

Shooting honorable lightsaber duelists in the face in Jedi Knight, shooting k-style imitators in the face in Gunz...

I like to imagine those honourable lightsaber duelist probably love the scene where Han shoots first or Indy pops a cap in the sword wielded, so the irony makes this even funnier.

Edit: besides the only correct way to play the crazy Jedi knight mods was as a roided up raging sand person beating people with gaffi sticks. Those dudes were unstoppable and gave precisely no shits about lightsabers.

PoizenJam fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Feb 19, 2015

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