UKMT General Elextravaganza 2017: Lord Buckethead would have won

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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed.
Labour	907	49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative)	48	2.64%
Liberal Democrats	31	1.71%
UKIP	13	0.72%
Plaid Cymru	25	1.38%
Green	22	1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party	12	0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party	1	0.06%
Scottish National Party	59	3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist	4	0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian	3	0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist	36	1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots	35	1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash	8	0.44%
Monster Raving Loony	49	2.70%
Space Navies Party	39	2.15%
Independent / Single Issue	2	0.11%
Can't Vote	188	10.35%
Won't Vote	8	0.44%
Spoiled Ballot	15	0.83%
Pissflaps	312	17.17%
Total:	1817 votes

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Vitamin P: Nov 19, 2013; Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Osborne needs to gently caress off, this is his legacy and he doesn't get to sit by the sidelines.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:14

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 13:18

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

loving hell: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/worked-kctmo-nightmares-burning-tower-blocks

quote:

When I worked for KCTMO I had nightmares about burning tower blocks
Seraphima Kennedy

In the aftermath of the Grenfell Tower disaster, a harsh light now shines on the organisation that managed the block, and others in the area, the Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO).

People have said that this was �a disaster waiting to happen�. I shared their concerns. I saw them from the inside.

I remember the vote that led to the creation of KCTMO in 1996, because my mother was a tenant at the time and we received letters about it. I was born and brought up in the south of the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, on benefits, in an overcrowded council flat.

When I left university, I saw that a progressive government was pouring money into public services. I thought I could help families like mine. In 2007, I started working for the organisation, which manages almost 10,000 properties, and stayed until 2016, employed as a neighbourhood officer first in the south of the borough, then in the north. Then, as now, the contrasts were stark. Generally speaking, the south is rich: the north has some of the highest social deprivation levels in the country.

Though I didn�t manage Grenfell Tower itself, I was responsible for day-to-day housing management services on surrounding estates with similar structures and communities. The policies and procedures were, to my knowledge, the same, and these included mandatory annual fire safety training for caretakers and neighbourhood officers. In this training, the stakes of failure were made very clear; we were told that the CEO could go to prison for corporate manslaughter in the event of a major incident. We were also told about some of the recommendations from the Lakanal House fire in 2009, which claimed six lives in Southwark, south London.

After 2010, austerity bit us hard and we felt it in every aspect of the service, as resources were stretched and budgets were squeezed. We worked closely with police and mental health services but as those services started to fall away after 2014 � degraded by budget strictures of their own � things became more difficult. We were doing more casework because there were no support workers. More of our residents needed our help, yet at the same time we were overburdened and were struggling with impossible targets. A change in management brought a new level of scrutiny, but it felt like managers didn�t understand the complex issues our residents were facing.

Further changes to council tenancies through the Localism Act in 2011 presented us with additional demands, but no more resources. Instead of tenancies for life, new tenants were being given two- or five-year fixed-term tenancies and these needed to be checked and visited several times in the first year. There was a drive to let homes to the �most deserving�, principally those in work; and a sense that people on benefits were somehow less deserving. Many felt the council, like all councils, should have been building new homes but instead it was obsessed with the problem of subletting. As the casework grew in size and urgency, we were frequently drawn away from it to go out door-knocking, checking residents� ID and asking intrusive questions about their incomes and home lives.

Our foreboding about calamity loomed large; I used to have nightmares about blocks burning down. We carried out quarterly block inspections, and a huge part of that work was checking the fire-safety of each block. Were the exits clear? Were the emergency lights working? Were all the fire doors in operation? We�d send letters to residents who left bikes and buggies blocking the communal exits, because it was our responsibility to make sure the means of escape were clear. But still I�d wake up in the middle of the night, asking myself if I�d sent that letter to that resident in flat 17 asking her to move her buggy. Buggies are highly flammable and it only takes one cigarette to start a fire.

When I heard how residents in Grenfell stayed put, I remembered one meeting with the residents on another of our estates who asked for information about their means of escape in the event of a fire. I was flabbergasted when our fire safety team confirmed the widely used �stay put� policy, confident in the belief that fire stops between each floor would prevent the flames from spreading, and that the fire doors fitted to every home in their block would give residents a full hour in which the fire brigade would rescue them. Thinking about it now brings a lump to my throat.

As I stood at the bottom of burning Grenfell Tower on Wednesday, I saw an estate noticeboard with an ex-colleague�s photograph on it. �I�m here to make sure estates are well run,� it said, and I couldn�t help but think that she � as well as all the other people devastated by this fire � has been failed by both the management organisation and the government. I saw images of the missing and knew these were families just like mine. After years of austerity, system failure and now this unthinkable tragedy, surely things must change.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:16

Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

Tsaedje posted:

'Not thought to be terror related' just some bloke with a knife apparently

"not terror related" = "he was white".

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:17

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

I would say May is at a huge risk of being murdered to death. It's not the Muslims or people posting on the internet that the G men need to be scared of. It's the homeless man with nothing to lose or the sweet old man who just got diagnosed with cancer and has simply had enough. Or you know, the fire survivors who just lost their families. These quiet people can't be traced or tracked, they are simply going to walk up to her and stab her. She's made herself the figurehead with all of this "my party" guff, it will make her the target.

Don't do this btw, watching her as her cronies get wiped out in the next election will be sweet enough and tbh we don't really need to watch the Tory papers pretend they care while covering a televised state funeral.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:17

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

Vitamin P posted:

Osborne needs to gently caress off, this is his legacy and he doesn't get to sit by the sidelines.

Yeah, he's doing a classic case of making GBS threads himself and asking who farted.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:17

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

learnincurve posted:

I would say May is at a huge risk of being murdered to death. It's not the Muslims or people posting on the internet that the G men need to be scared of. It's the homeless man with nothing to lose or the sweet old man who just got diagnosed with cancer and has simply had enough. Or you know, the fire survivors who just lost their families. These quiet people can't be traced or tracked, they are simply going to walk up to her and stab her. She's made herself the figurehead with all of this "my party" guff, it will make her the target.

Don't do this btw, watching her as her cronies get wiped out in the next election will be sweet enough and tbh we don't really need to watch the Tory papers pretend they care while covering a televised state funeral.

Pretty sure the man with nothing to lose who strangles her to death will be one of her backbenchers in a marginal.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:18

Overminty: Mar 16, 2010; You may wonder what I am doing while reading your posts..

Julio Cruz posted:

"not terror related" = "he was white".

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/westminster-on-lockdown-as-police-deal-with-man-outside-gates-reports

Doesn't look it to me.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:19

waffle: May 12, 2001; HEH

In extremely George Takei voice: Ohhhhh myyyyy
https://twitter.com/Survation/status/875662347880288257

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:23

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

waffle posted:

In extremely George Takei voice: Ohhhhh myyyyy
https://twitter.com/Survation/status/875662347880288257

Hmm. So not a majority, right? but def Labour-SNP coalition

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:26

Halisnacks: Jul 18, 2009

waffle posted:

In extremely George Takei voice: Ohhhhh myyyyy
https://twitter.com/Survation/status/875662347880288257

TIBFC... because the Tories will absolutely not allow an election to take place anytime soon.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:27

Don't Lol me: Sep 6, 2004

feedmegin posted:

Hmm. So not a majority, right? but def Labour-SNP coalition

I'd be very surprised if the tories don't tank further, the more this all unravels. The mayhembot is really helping that along.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:28

WeAreTheRomans: Feb 23, 2010; by R. Guyovich

Cmon DUP crash this parliamentary plane with no survivors. You've been obstructionist cavemen the whole time, why change now

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:29

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

Halisnacks posted:

TIBFC... because the Tories will absolutely not allow an election to take place anytime soon.

They're apparently angling for a minority government with no confidence and supply arrangement from the DUP. If they get hit by a vote of no confidence, they won't have a choice.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:29

Firos: Apr 30, 2007; Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism

That Leadsom interview is painful. Just lovely bland "this is terrible, how awful" crap.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:29

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

Thing is how could the Tories recover their image from this? Everyone on the ground hates them, May's fled the scene like a coward. It'd require a leadership change to get them out of this rut, and their BOZZA LEJJURND is apparently unpopular over the Brexit campaign.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:31

Spuckuk: Aug 11, 2009; Being a bastard works

Gort posted:

If this keeps up I may have to unignore him

I've gone for a cautious unignoring myself, under the auspices that maybe, just maybe hope isn't always a lie.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:31

Halisnacks: Jul 18, 2009

Is Grenfell toxic enough to the Tories/politicians in general that even the DUP would want to disassociate themselves from the potential Tory government right now?

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:32

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

WeAreTheRomans posted:

Cmon DUP crash this parliamentary plane with no survivors. You've been obstructionist cavemen the whole time, why change now

someone send them leaked footage of Theresa May wearing mixed fabrics on a Sunday

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:32

fridge corn: Apr 2, 2003; NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN

forkboy84 posted:

It's like my dream combo. Rad. I want Jezza chilling with Killer Michael now.

This is S-tier joking. I'm impressed.

And this is S-tier cuntery. It's amazing that this was allowed to happen. Jesus.

What is s-tier?

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:33

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

waffle posted:

In extremely George Takei voice: Ohhhhh myyyyy
https://twitter.com/Survation/status/875662347880288257

its_happening.gif

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:35

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

waffle posted:

In extremely George Takei voice: Ohhhhh myyyyy
https://twitter.com/Survation/status/875662347880288257

So still not a win.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:37

waffle: May 12, 2001; HEH

jBrereton posted:

So still not a win.

The GB poll in that prediction is the immediately-post-election Survation poll... I'll be extremely surprised if it hasn't moved into Lab majority territory since

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:38

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

jBrereton posted:

So still not a win.

Enough for Jeremy to be PM, though. The SNP aren't going to abandon their "Not The Tories" messaging any time soon

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:39

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Survation's Survation. Let's see what the real polling companies say.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:39

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

fridge corn posted:

What is s-tier?

Better than A. It's common in Japanese school grading, because D is seen as a fail, so to get more grades in the A-C band they often stick an S (excellent) band above A, like an A* in GCSEs (is that still a thing or did they go to numbers now for Gove reasons).

Also video games, which is how it moved to the west.

Tesseraction posted:

Yeah, he's doing a classic case of making GBS threads himself and asking who farted.

His twitter profile pic looks like a man who has shat himself and is taking pride in the fact.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:40

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Angepain posted:

Enough for Jeremy to be PM, though. The SNP aren't going to abandon their "Not The Tories" messaging any time soon

True I suppose.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:40

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

jBrereton posted:

Survation's Survation. Let's see what the real polling companies say.

weren't they literally the only ones who got it right this time?

corbyn's labour could eat the SNP's lunch right now, but that relies on scotlab eviscerating their lovely current leadership and most of their structure

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:41

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

May has gone to a hospital that has like 9 survivors in critical condition lol

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:43

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

JFairfax posted:

May has gone to a hospital that has like 9 survivors in critical condition lol

Yep, 9 total, 7 in critical.

Just gonna stare at a bunch of people in a coma and then briefly say "hi" to 2 before fleeing.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:43

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Tesseraction posted:

Yep, 9 total, 7 in critical.

Just gonna stare at a bunch of people in a coma and then briefly say "hi" to 2 before fleeing.

i hope one of those 2 managed to croak out 'gently caress you'

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:44

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

JFairfax posted:

May has gone to a hospital that has like 9 survivors in critical condition lol

haven't they suffered enough

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:45

Jippa: Feb 13, 2009

Just think a few ago if some one had predicted this:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jun/16/jeremy-corbyn-pyramid-stage-glastonbury-festival-2017

Exclusive: Labour leader to introduce political US rap duo Run the Jewels on the main stage as Michael Eavis hails him �the hero of the hour�

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:47

communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

JFairfax posted:

May has gone to a hospital that has like 9 survivors in critical condition lol

loving hell.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:47

Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

fridge corn posted:

What is s-tier?

Better than A tier. Possibly means special?

It's a japanese game thing. Games like Devil May Cry. If you're fighting is fancy enough you get a S-Tier award.

Bloody non-weebs.

edit: beaten with a better explanation

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:48

communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

I'm just gonna be furiously :f5:

ing the graun until the press-release picture of May standing rigidly next to a person in a coma pops up.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:48

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

Endorph posted:

i hope one of those 2 managed to croak out 'gently caress you'

*May tries to leave*

"and boris"

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:48

Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

CoolCab posted:

weren't they literally the only ones who got it right this time?

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/872586526437330945

No-one else had the Tory lead less than 5.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:48

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

communism bitch posted:

I'm just gonna be furiously ing the graun until the press-release picture of May standing rigidly next to a person in a coma pops up.

She's beside herself?

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:49

The Hausu Usher: Feb 9, 2010; Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6q7mS7MOw4

Aamer Anwar's interview is worth a look.

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:50

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WeAreTheRomans: Feb 23, 2010; by R. Guyovich

Endorph posted:

i hope one of those 2 managed to croak out 'gently caress you'

I'm pretty sure even in a coma I could muster a gently caress you as an automatic response to being in the same room as a Tory

# ? Jun 16, 2017 12:51

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