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Jhanez posted:Yes, that's true. Do you think it's accurate and useful to frame this as a sudden and devastating lack of procedural collegiality? That one day congresspeople just woke up and decided that they were no longer willing to compromise? It seems far more plausible to me that they and their constituencies have actually and fundamentally different values that they perceive of as being under threat, because people act ways for reasons, and a sudden attack of the no-get-alongsies doesn't make any sense at all. this is the part where someone says "black president" and you go "ohhhhhhh"
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Jhanez posted:That one day congresspeople just woke up and decided that they were no longer willing to compromise? Yes, it started January 3, 2011.
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ScrubLeague posted:Yes, it started January 3, 2011. March 2010 actually.
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Oh was it that quickly? I seem to remember there being a slightly longer period of non-obstruction that ended with the first mid-term congress.
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InsanityIsCrazy posted:this is the part where someone says "black president" and you go "ohhhhhhh" No, I don't really go "oohhhhh" at a facile statement that is in fact included in the literal thing that I just said. Of course white supremacy is one of the values that is under threat, it's just incredibly silly to frame this whole thing as foot-stomping instead of reactions to changing social circumstances.
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Jhanez posted:Yes, that's true. Do you think it's accurate and useful to frame this as a sudden and devastating lack of procedural collegiality? That one day congresspeople just woke up and decided that they were no longer willing to compromise? It seems far more plausible to me that they and their constituencies have actually and fundamentally different values that they perceive of as being under threat, because people act ways for reasons, and a sudden attack of the no-get-alongsies doesn't make any sense at all. they got rid of earmarks which was how you were able to negotiate across the aisle and within your caucus. "vote for this thing and we'll make sure a new army base gets set up in your district." favor trading like that. people thought it was horrible and corrupt when it was just a way to get legislation passed since that stuff has to go *somewhere* and you might as well use it as a bargaining chip.
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Jhanez posted:Yes, that's true. Do you think it's accurate and useful to frame this as a sudden and devastating lack of procedural collegiality? That one day congresspeople just woke up and decided that they were no longer willing to compromise? It seems far more plausible to me that they and their constituencies have actually and fundamentally different values that they perceive of as being under threat, because people act ways for reasons, and a sudden attack of the no-get-alongsies doesn't make any sense at all. It isn't sudden at all. I used the 8 years as an example cuz black presidency but the real big problem as I see it is the hostility to any kind of diversity in opinion and otherwise that has been carefully curated by demagogues over a long long period of time because diversity is bad for business. The biggest dismaying thing for me is that now this anti diversity rhetoric has been fully absorbed by people on the left, who I really thought should know better.
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ScrubLeague posted:Oh was it that quickly? I seem to remember there being a slightly longer period of non-obstruction that ended with the first mid-term congress. That's when House Appropriations banned earmarks.
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zoux posted:That's when House Appropriations banned earmarks. so interesting question, if the dems somehow took back the house this year, would they bring back earmarks? or if the gop margin became thin enough paul ryan felt they were needed to keep people in line?
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axeil posted:so interesting question, if the dems somehow took back the house this year, would they bring back earmarks? or if the gop margin became thin enough paul ryan felt they were needed to keep people in line? Oh I doubt it, it's the kind of thing that sounds super bad to the electorate. It's sausage making and it only works as long as the public isn't aware of it.
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InsanityIsCrazy posted:My place used button-based voting. Screen in the middle, buttons on the side, candidates names next to the buttons.
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Al! posted:"I can't get everything I want so gently caress it, nobody deserves anything at all" is kind of why our democracy is failing too Who was that goon who coined the phrase "wrap it up Obamailures?" He was this, 100%. He didn't become a pro wrestler, so he burned with hatred that the Goon dem choice actually happened, IE people got what they wanted
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Nebakenezzer posted:Who was that goon who coined the phrase "wrap it up Obamailures?" He was this, 100%. He didn't become a pro wrestler, so he burned with hatred that the Goon dem choice actually happened, IE people got what they wanted Paradol Ex, no? Also author of the infamous Chris Benoit post.
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s4p is overwhelmingly in straight up loving denial right now. There are plenty of people attached to reality, but BERNIE ONLY NEEDS TO BEAT HILLARY BY 15% IN EVERY REMAINING CONTEST TO PULL IT OUT HE CAN TOTALLY DO IT seems to be the prevailing message not getting deleted by mods. These people are going to hold on to this right until the end because they legitimately seem to believe that Bernie is going to crush Hillary in New York and California by similar margins to her wins in the south which will give him the delegate lead. JUST HAVE TO KEEP PHONEBANKING, FACEBANKING, TEXTBANKING, OTHERWORDSWITHBANKING!!!!!
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weekly font posted:Paradol Ex, no? yes it was paradol ex. his frequent meltdowns in 08 were amazing.
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I'm actually OK with idiots throwing away their money but not okay with idiots throwing away their money that would have been otherwise spent for other people (that guy with the daughters college money was sad, although it's probably fake)
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fknlo posted:s4p is overwhelmingly in straight up loving denial right now. There are plenty of people attached to reality, but BERNIE ONLY NEEDS TO BEAT HILLARY BY 15% IN EVERY REMAINING CONTEST TO PULL IT OUT HE CAN TOTALLY DO IT seems to be the prevailing message not getting deleted by mods. These people are going to hold on to this right until the end because they legitimately seem to believe that Bernie is going to crush Hillary in New York and California by similar margins to her wins in the south which will give him the delegate lead. JUST HAVE TO KEEP PHONEBANKING, FACEBANKING, TEXTBANKING, OTHERWORDSWITHBANKING!!!!! The dreams being dashed by her immediately winning Arizona will be pretty great.
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fknlo posted:s4p is overwhelmingly in straight up loving denial right now. There are plenty of people attached to reality, but BERNIE ONLY NEEDS TO BEAT HILLARY BY 15% IN EVERY REMAINING CONTEST TO PULL IT OUT HE CAN TOTALLY DO IT seems to be the prevailing message not getting deleted by mods. These people are going to hold on to this right until the end because they legitimately seem to believe that Bernie is going to crush Hillary in New York and California by similar margins to her wins in the south which will give him the delegate lead. JUST HAVE TO KEEP PHONEBANKING, FACEBANKING, TEXTBANKING, OTHERWORDSWITHBANKING!!!!! One of the biggest indicators that he's done for me (besides, you know, delegate math) is that people saying "Time to pack it in guys, GG" in s4p aren't getting brigade downvoted. Populist grass roots campaigns can only thrive on momentum and enthusiasm, and those are dead right now. Doubt we'll see any articles about $4 million raised in five days going forward.
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fknlo posted:s4p is overwhelmingly in straight up loving denial right now. There are plenty of people attached to reality, but BERNIE ONLY NEEDS TO BEAT HILLARY BY 15% IN EVERY REMAINING CONTEST TO PULL IT OUT HE CAN TOTALLY DO IT seems to be the prevailing message not getting deleted by mods. These people are going to hold on to this right until the end because they legitimately seem to believe that Bernie is going to crush Hillary in New York and California by similar margins to her wins in the south which will give him the delegate lead. JUST HAVE TO KEEP PHONEBANKING, FACEBANKING, TEXTBANKING, OTHERWORDSWITHBANKING!!!!! s4p tears are arguably more delicious than conservative tears were in 2012.
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fknlo posted:s4p is overwhelmingly in straight up loving denial right now. There are plenty of people attached to reality, but BERNIE ONLY NEEDS TO BEAT HILLARY BY 15% IN EVERY REMAINING CONTEST TO PULL IT OUT HE CAN TOTALLY DO IT seems to be the prevailing message not getting deleted by mods. These people are going to hold on to this right until the end because they legitimately seem to believe that Bernie is going to crush Hillary in New York and California by similar margins to her wins in the south which will give him the delegate lead. JUST HAVE TO KEEP PHONEBANKING, FACEBANKING, TEXTBANKING, OTHERWORDSWITHBANKING!!!!! /r/sandersis45
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The IronMonkey posted:Folk sure seem to care a whole lot about what some random other forum thinks. Quick spend an hour scouring reddit for bad posts and then screenshot them so you can put them in this thread!
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The IronMonkey posted:Folk sure seem to care a whole lot about what some random other forum thinks. That's the founding principle of the website genius. "Making fun of bad internet stuff? Here, at last, has SOmethingawful gone to hell  "
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Salt Fish posted:Quick spend an hour scouring reddit for bad posts and then screenshot them so you can put them in this thread!
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You know things are crazy when the Taiwanese Animators videos are tamer than reality. http://youtu.be/I0eU3Fr0nsY
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The IronMonkey posted:Folk sure seem to care a whole lot about what some random other forum thinks. Making fun of the Internet is the foundation of this website. And really really funny.
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Al! posted:You don't really have to go as far as Reddit to find bernouts saying incredible things lmao at PhD's in bernie thread talking about moving to Europe.
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Al! posted:You don't really have to go as far as Reddit to find bernouts saying incredible things There's one in USPol getting his mouth filled with poo poo right now.
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Al! posted:You don't really have to go as far as Reddit to find bernouts saying incredible things Turns out the South is full of stupid idiots and we should bring back Sherman to kill them.....oh we just advocated ethnic cleansing huh....
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zen death robot posted:Christ I just assumed they were everywhere by now, I can't remember if it was 2008 or 2010 when they came out here but they've had them ever since at my polling place. Theres a huge confirmation screen and a reciept printed out in a window as a backup too. There was an NPR story not too long ago about Florida's voting machine systems. Basically the takeaway was that OCR readers are fast, are easy for voters to use, let you just use simple tables as voting "booths", makes it so someone taking their time to decide doesn't hold up the reader, and they allow for manual (re)counts in case the reader malfunctions. The downside is that all the voting machine companies have switched to only making touchscreens and finding parts for the OCR systems is getting difficult. I remember using an OCR system when I voted in Alexandria VA. I want to say I also remember them just printing out the ballots on demand from a couple laser printers too. Maybe Florida serial numbers their ballots or something that wouldn't let the poll worker just fire up a photocopier to make more blank ones.
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I've been seeing some pretty boring posts in here lately so I wrote up a handy guide for making the thread more entertaining. I think with a little polish we can meet or beat the quality of the Trump thread. Let's start with some political memes that you can copy and paste into your posts to make them funnier. Remember, the more of these you use the better! - hot take - nth dimensional chess - rat gently caress - bernouts - trump(german suffix) Here is a quick guide for using these memes to spice up your posts. First, start with a post that you want to make: "It will be interesting to see if the protests at the Republican Convention cause schedule disruptions and how the RNC would respond to that" Good point, but seems pretty dry. Let's try to punch this post up a notch with some hilarious memes: "If you want my hot take I think if the refucklicans try to play 43rd dimension chess and fail to ratfuck Herr Trumpenwaffle the Bernouts could cause a real scene at the convention." See how much better this post is? Try it out yourself!
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InsanityIsCrazy posted:nice meltdown
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gently caress you forums I thought you stopped doubleposting
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Salt Fish posted:I've been seeing some pretty boring posts in here lately so I wrote up a handy guide for making the thread more entertaining. I think with a little polish we can meet or beat the quality of the Trump thread. Let's start with some political memes that you can copy and paste into your posts to make them funnier. Remember, the more of these you use the better! Ugh, classic Dunning-Kruger affect. All you've done is set up a cargo cult and if it happens, I'll eat my hat.
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