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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I saw a terrible Nic Cage movie called Season of the Witch where Nic and Ron Perlman play knights who have to escort a suspected witch during the plague.

It was bad enough to actually be enjoyable so I recently bought it and now I think I'm having a stroke because it's not the same movie. It's the same for the first half, but I'm positive the original screening had the two knights winding up in a small village and there's a surprise twist at the end.

This version has them going to a monastery and fighting a demon. Like many late-period Nicolas Cage films, this had a troubled production, so it's entirely possible two different cuts exist. However, I can't find anything about the first version. Is there another Cage/Perlman buddy pic that I'm confusing this with?

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Harton posted:

You may be mixing up that and the Sean Bean movie Black Death.

How did I get Nic Cage has Sean Bean mixed up?

Because that's exactly what happened. Thanks.

Now I really want to see a version of GoT with Cage as Ned Stark.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
The new Star Trek uses a fancy font for it's subtitles and it's so distracting.

A Klingon would never speak in a serif font. IMPACT all the way.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Mulan.

Also, I think one of the Kung Fu Pandas.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Speaking of fake versus real, I always found it weird that the more cameras you use, the faker and cheaper it looks (three camera versus a single camera). I know it has nothing to do with the number of cameras, but how you use them but it used to confuse me that movies were 1 camera, whereas the crappiest looking episode of Mama's Family was 3.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
My disappointment in learning how actors shoot their lines in a single camera environment ranks up there with realizing there was no Santa Claus.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Parachute posted:

its around 1:46/1:47. no audio at work but it looks less pronounced than i remember.

Just a dramatic quick cut because we have the attention spans of gnats. They did something similar at the beginning of that clip.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Leavemywife posted:

I was watching MST3K, The Giant Spider Invasion, and during the opening credits, a guest star is listed. Crow asks, "How do you have a guest star in a movie?"

That's my question. How do you have a guest star in a movie?

Maybe he just showed up on day and they were like, "would you like to be in our movie?"

Guest stars are often billed last in a TV show. That is reportedly why Heather Locklear was listed as a 'special guest star' for like 200 episodes of Melrose Place. Her name got listed last and with a little more pizzazz. Maybe multiple people wanted top or special billing and this was a compromise.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Skwirl posted:

Why are Dutch Angles called Dutch Angles?

Like why do the Pennsylvania Dutch sound awfully German. It's because even when America was new we were getting immigrants mixed up.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Skwirl posted:

Would "German Angles" be more accurate, why? I'm not super familiar with early German film, but I don't remember Fritz Lang or Lenni Riefenstahl using them a lot.

I prefer the term Batman Angle, because the Adam West show used them all the goddamn time.

I'm struggling to remember my film 101 material, but Dutch Angles were more of a 1920's thing. I don't recall if Lenni Riefenstahl was working then and what I've seen of her style that cinematography didn't really apply.

I don't think Metropolis used Dutch Angles but apparently Fritz Lang's movie M used them a lot. Than again I never got to film 102 so I have no idea.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Arnie being the good guy was spoiled but not the t1000 being liquid metal. I remember thinking the chrome holes being made with the shotgun in the first hallway encounter were slugs smashing against him. Then the t1000 kind of looks at that silver mannequin and we’re all like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

So when he walks out of the burning semi was an actual movie moment of surprise.

James Cameron movies hold up incredibly well. I watched the Abyss recently and it’s still awesome.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

BonoMan posted:

Goddamn The Abyss is so so so good. One of my fave movies ever. Also a great behind the scenes making of. That was some seriously hard poo poo to film.

I haven't seen any behind the scenes features, but I do remember Ed Harris almost dying multiple times during the production and pretty much vowing to never work around water or James Cameron again.

Watching it initially I always felt like it ended kind of abruptly. Then I saw the extended cut and was like, yeah, they should have ended it abruptly.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

EL BROMANCE posted:

I think I’m kind of relieved he’s just working on projects I don’t care about at all these days. If he came back and did a Ridley Scott to the Terminator franchise, I think that’d be the final nail in the coffin.

The Terminator franchise is dead, buried, and pissed on. Cameron can't hurt it anymore.

I honestly enjoyed...4? The Christian Bale one? Until the end where he gets a heart transplant in a tent.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
When I was younger I just wanted a whole movie from the 5 minutes of Terminators shooting lasers in the future. 4 made that dream a reality.

3 was good for the video with the Schwarzenegger scientist.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Peaceful Anarchy posted:

The movies are already 85% CGI, there's no reason to force anyone to be underwater for that long.

If people aren't hurting then the art isn't real.

I look forward to Cameron fully embracing his Kubrick phase.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

That just reminds me of a line of his from a New Yorker profile while he was making Avatar, where he said something like, anybody can be a husband or father but there's only five guys who can do what I do

He's not wrong. Also I'm pretty sure he's a terrible husband so it's odd he'd set that as a baseline of competency.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Crispin Glover got $750,000k when Back to the Future II used his likeness without his permission. I think they used footage from the first film (okay) and they had an actor play Glover's rendition of McFly while hanging upside down so you couldn't tell it wasn't him (not okay).

So a lot depends on how good your lawyer is.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I'd like the George Lucas peyote fueled fever dream version of Star Wars, k, tia.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
And of course, the end of Blade Runner used footage from the beginning of the Shining.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
There's also a fake newspaper prop that's been used for the last 30 years.

https://reelrundown.com/film-industry/Same-newspaper-prop-in-different-movies

Krispy Wafer fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Feb 2, 2018

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Someone stole the Spiderman suit that cost like 100k to make and literally only fits Toby McGuire.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
There's that scene in Old School where Will Farrell and Jeremy Piven fight in a lecture hall. That pretty much encapsulated the plot and theme of the movie.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
The Arrival had a lecture hall scene.

Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield as well.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

morestuff posted:

Can anyone think of any movies where there are two (or more) parallel, mostly separate investigations looking into the same event?

Would Silence of the Lambs work?

Starling's investigation separates from the FBI's about midway through culminating with the doorbell scene.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Mover posted:

There’s a lecture scene in Indiana Jones but idk if it gets across any theme other than “Harrison Ford is really dreamy”

That's because you were too preoccupied with how dreamy he was.

He was talking about how boring archaeology really was and how it was almost never exciting.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
What a lot of people don’t realize is that John McCaine isn’t even the main character of the Die Hard series. It’s actually a multi-film saga of the Gruber family. You can tell that because Die Hard 1 and 3 are great whereas 2 and 4 suck rear end.

Bruce Willis is just the appetizer between the main meals. So Die Hard 5 is going to rock.

And I just realized there already is a Die Hard 5 and that sucked too. So now we’re hoping for a Gruber nephew in 6.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I mean, I didn't watch American Histories one through nine, but I was still able to enjoy American History X.

We can do this ALL day.

Please don't though. The horse is already dead.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Leavemywife posted:

How much, on average, does it cost to license music for a movie? I'm guessing the bigger the musician/band, the more it costs, at least generally speaking.

It's been rumored it cost Marvel millions to use the 'Immigrant Song' for Thor.

Bonnie Raitt got a million dollars for her song 'Something to Talk About' to be the title of a Julia Roberts movie.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Timby posted:

Eddie Murphy turned down Star Trek 4 to do The Golden Child.

Everyone did weird poo poo in the '80s.

It's not too crazy. He turned down a supporting role for top billing. In the end he probably made more money and it'd take a least a half dozen more stinkers until he finally reached that pinnacle of Hollywood that is voice acting.

The man looks about 20 years younger than he is so he just needs to make a lot of sequels to stuff people like.

<checks IMDB page>

Yep, Beverly Hills Cop 4. That'll do it. Maybe put in a subplot about Black men getting shot by police.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Cosby was a cultural icon and his biggest crime is that now a massive chunk of Black mainstream work is tainted. He was either the first or the best at so many things he tried.

Just for a child's perspective you had Fat Albert and Picture Pages. Cosby wasn't on the same planet as Mr. Rogers, but he was in the same solar system.

As for Leonard Part 6, Cosby's shtick was goofy humor which can easily be stupid and not in a good way. That's why Leslie Nielsen is a comic genius and even his stuff stunk about half the time.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Skwirl posted:

It might be an unfair statement about Cosby's comedy because I've never listened/seen his stand-up and given what we now know I don't think I ever will, but I'm also not that concerned if I'm being unfair to Cosby's comedic talents, given what we now know.

His stand-up was great. Kind of the polar opposite of someone like Murphy or Pryor.

Granted, John Wayne Gacy may have been the best clown ever. It wouldn't make watching him now any easier.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Guys, maybe Cosby will cure cancer or solve the Syrian civil war before he dies and we can call it a wash.

Until then I just hope there’s nothing nasty lurking is John Mulaney’s past.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Skwirl posted:

While a funny story, if it's true his Tom Jones joke should probably qualify as a war crime and get him brought up in The Hague.

It’s not unusual to feel that way.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

feedmyleg posted:

I mean, he was a severe alcohol and drug addict for a large chunk of his life. He's not exactly the safest bet.

He did talk about smoking cocaine before his high school graduation and he looks like he has fetal alcohol syndrome so maybe he's got everything out of his system early.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Egbert Souse posted:

Isn't the thing about the DGA fining Star Wars' 77 for not having credits at the beginning just apocryphal? That doesn't exactly make sense considering the Citizen Kane, '56 Around the World in 80 Days, West Side Story, and 2001: A Space Odyssey all have credits at the end (80 Days doesn't even have the title at the beginning). William Dieterle seemed to like eschewing specific credits entirely on his 40s films - The Devil and Daniel Webster simply has a list of names in alphabetical order covering the cast and crew.

I've always heard that Lucas got fined and rage quit the Director's Guide as a result. It's entirely possible directors like Kubrick and Wells just paid their fine or got away with it because the governing body liked them more. It may have also mattered that Star Wars was the biggest film ever, so there was more attention paid to Lucas.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Syncopated posted:

I watched Bright yesterday and now I'm wondering if there are any good movies about the integration of the police forces. Like a buddy cop movie with a black and white pair of cops where they have to deal with the racism in the department or whatever. In the Heat of the Night is very good, Training Day is good but doesn't really fit the bill.

Turner and Hooch.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Syncopated posted:

All these are very good suggestions, but I was looking for all-human movies. Although it's funny that there are so many non-human buddy cop movies.

There's no shortage of awkward combination human buddy cop films.



What the gently caress...? They made a sequel?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

EL BROMANCE posted:

Yeah, the schedule is usually set so you don't get big budget films colliding too much. You can be the number 1 movie and still easily do disappointing box office business.

I hope 2049 eventually clawed back after worldwide release and home formats, because drat if that wasn't a great movie that deserved to make some cash.

To be fair, there's never been a Blade Runner that performed to expectations, so it's not like they were surprised.

Dystopian sci-fi films just don't sell unless they include 8 foot tall blue people or Sigourney Weaver. Include both and you really break some records.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Skwirl posted:

I don't have any specific examples, but back when novelizations of films were a big thing, they were often based on early shooting scripts so would have stuff that was either left on the cutting room floor or maybe not even shot.

The novella of E.T. had the alien eating M&M's. That's an important thing I remembered as a 10 year old.

Immersion ruined.

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Molybdenum posted:

i don't buy movies often but can someone explain the price difference here?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Collec...m4383.l4275.c10

vs.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0117V8BX8/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

4x on amazon vs. ebay. are the ebay copies fake somehow?

All of those are being sold by 3rd parties through Amazon. So it’s essentially the same thing as eBay except they probably know the clientele is different so they’re trying to command a higher price.

It’s just as likely the Amazon ones are fake as the eBay ones.

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