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TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Centzon Totochtin posted:

which would be a better protagonist for a follow-up manga, Sendou (competent ippo) or Takamura (is takamura)

10000000% Sendo.

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TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Bisse posted:

He doesn't need to "anime his way out of this", his opponent is literally on his last breath and unable to move his legs. He can win this easily just by not trying to dempsey, and that is likely what will happen. Either way it will be a massive loss for him because instead of a triumphant return this match is an embarrassment and a failure for him.

Yeah, but even if Ippo wins because Guevara falls down from pure exhaustion/damage, how the gently caress would George write away Ippo clearly being punch drunk? There's no way he's gonna be able to write it off as "well Ippo is completely fine and all those blatant symptoms he's been showing are just poorly timed coincidences."

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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tbp posted:

The mangas not in the 80s anymore iirc and the coach would turn from "bad old fashioned boxing coach" to "legitimately heinous criminal" if he allows ippo to keep boxing

One quick wiki check says that it's currently January 1999 in the Ippo-verse.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Bisse posted:

Agreed.

I also agree. I am SO happy that Morikawa went through with it.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Centzon Totochtin posted:

Doesn't he just lose anyway because he got downed too many times this round?

Yes.

Also: Kamogawa and the others rush in after that down, which would automatically end the match regardless

TaurusOxford fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Nov 21, 2017

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Peel posted:

Not a direction I expected before the fight, and not one I would have advocated, but now it's happening I'm curious what's coming.

Now I think about it, did Ippo ever cross that line?


Nope

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

DizzyBum posted:

Wow, so uh it looks like Guevara pretty much just stuck his left out and let Ippo ram his face into it while trying to start up his Super Deluxe Dempsey Roll with Cheese.

Ippo is a great boxer!

It's really telling just how broken Ippo is that he doesn't even loving notice that left straight.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Reddit has some great moments: https://imgur.com/a/a8Uek#bRKwscN

Spoilers for latest chapter.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Heavy Metal posted:

Ippo is a good guy.

Which is why he'll never cross that line.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
Ippo going into the match knowing he's broken, but wanting to show the new dempsey before he would be forced to retire is so heart-breaking.

Also, 1203 RAW is up: http://netabare.city/archives/6261

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Ytlaya posted:

Looking back, it's really downright insane how long this series spent basically going nowhere plot-wise with title defenses.

I feel like Takamura was actually yelling at Morikawa now in that "WHERE'S MY SUPER-MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE MATCH?!?!" panel. :v:

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Drink Top posted:

My real question is: How in the world did Takamura become such an incredible boxer? Are we to assume he's mostly a self taught prodigy that just humors/gets emotional support from Kamogawa?

Well...yes. Kamogawa even admits this during the Battle of Hawk. All Takamura has ever really gotten for training was left jabs and footwork.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
1204 RAW here: http://netabare.city/archives/9535

rough translation here: https://www.reddit.com/r/hajimenoippo/comments/7hpwu2/spoiler_chapter_1204_fullraw/dqt823s/

Takamura is not happy...

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Drink Top posted:

Isn't HnI supposed to be in the 80's? I'm not sure what period the manga is set in anymore.

The current year in HnI is 1999.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Nilbop posted:

Good. Angry Takamura is best Takamura. Did they mention who the opponent was anywhere in the build up to this fight? They don’t name him here.

Keith Lycaon. Not sure if this is a pun on a name like Rickey Mouse or Ronald Duck are, so MAYBE this will be a legit fight?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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So, Chapter 1205 recently got leaked. To almost nobody's surprise, it was a complete gag fight that added nothing to Takamura's story progression.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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https://imgur.com/a/4L1DS

Ippo 1207 fanlation.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Wild Horses posted:

jokes on you guys i never read the woli fight or the dearth of chapter before and after. for me, ippo is a solid 7 of a manga

I know people love to poo poo on the Woli fight, but I still want to see that nonsense animated, just for the hilarity.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Wild Horses posted:

itagaki and saeki fight was truly weird, how much more weird was woli fight?



This weird.

Like, if Ippo is Street Fighter, Woli is Marvel vs Capcom.

TaurusOxford fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Jan 24, 2018

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Frabba posted:

It's a more poorly drawn version of what Bryan Hawk would do.

There's other examples in the fight of Wally doing Bryan Hawk's swayback that are clearly shown. The difference here is that Wally is swaying back while utilizing forward momentum.

Oh, and because Wally is an OP boss character, he can also use Sendo's smash and Mashiba's flicker jabs. He wan't even taught them - they just came with his genius-level talent.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
I would still recommend you read the whole Wally fight, if only for the pure hilarity of it.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Vagabundo posted:

The 1208 raws are available.

Kumi arranges a referral for Ippo to go see a brain specialist, after a discussion about CTE with him. Ippo does a full round of scans and finds that while he's showing some symptoms, he isn't fully punch drunk, but he's at a high risk if he chooses to continue boxing the way he does. Ippo then visits the gym, and has a meeting with Kamogawa, where he declares that he's retiring while he's still relatively healthy, and after a farewell from Takamura, he does the leaf-catching exercise from the start of the series.

1208 ends with a statement saying that it will continue on to the next issue - ergo, not done yet.

So honestly, what's the best case scenario here to end the series? There's obviously going to be a timeskip, but will it be a timeskip just to show us some resolution to the other characters, or a timeskip so Ippo can pull a Date and come out of retirement?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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LordNagash posted:

Gonna be funny when after 20 IRL years and I can't remember how many in-universe years, we still need a time skip for someone to teach Ippo how to actually box.

Eight in-universe years. :v:

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Stairmaster posted:

uh. where ahve you been dude.

Speaking of which, 1209 of now out. No fan-translation of it yet but it's a lot of talking amongst the Kamogawa crew: http://netabare.city/archives/20032

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

SwissArmyDruid posted:

What, you mean, come out of retirement for one last hurrah? I mean, he could.

What good would it do? Would Kamogawa even take him back, knowing how high-risk Ippo is to getting punch drunk?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
So did the guys who do the "official" translations just give up out of anger? We're up to 1215 now and Manga Stream still doesn't have a chapter past 1204.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Hypocrisy posted:

So I saw the translation for chapter 1216 and...I'm feeling a little nervous about possible story direction.

NOW you're feeling nervous?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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The Notorious ZSB posted:

Has more of this actually been translated/released because I feel like I haven't seen it for months. Did the folks who do that get as fed up as the rest of us? It's still an illness I don't want to quit yet.

We're up to chapter 1220. We haven't had an official translation since 1204. I think it's safe to say that almost everyone has given up on HnI.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Good soup! posted:

I still want to see Madhouse animate the Woli fight haha

As much as people complain about the Woli fight, I would bet anything that the same people would love to watch an animated version, if only for the laughs.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
Say what you want about how Morikawa's story direction, but the sound direction and impact of the animation can never be understated.

That Works posted:

The whole opening sequence of the Champion Road movie was badass, basically the ending of that same fight re-cut.

That sequence still gives me chills. The slowdown on Sendo's face as Ippo is doing the Dempsey Roll is goddamn BRUTAL, as well as Sendo's bounce off the ring with the shockwave effect that really makes it clear just how devastating Ippo's punches really are.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

The Notorious ZSB posted:

I am disappointed that he didn't get to show off a complete version of the dempsey thanks to being a dumb tank his entire career.

Blame Kamogawa for that, not Ippo.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Fabricated posted:

You do know that all of this is just to get Ippo back in the ring right

At this point that's the worst possible option for the series to go.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Frabba posted:

Which by virtue of Morikawa's razor, is absolutely what will happen.

Oh I know it's doomed to happen, but gently caress man, what a waste of everyone's time. Morikawa should have just ended the series at chapter 1209 - It's not like we're ever gonna see all the loose ends tied up anyway.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Sindai posted:

I'm okay with Ippo being a comedy from now on.

It was always a comedy - now it's just a corpse.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Welp, time for Miyata to lose his belt. He seriously looks half dead.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Huzzah! posted:

chapter 1231 is out.
Miyata has lost his boxing boner.

Oh yes, cause this is a GREAT reason for Ippo to come out of retirement and risk permanent injury to himself...

"I have to start boxing again! Miyata-kun is BORED!"

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

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Pierson posted:

I vaguely remember some guy called Ricardo who was meant to be The Level of the World but that was probably hundreds of chapters ago.

Ricardo Martinez is still the reigning featherweight champion.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
Holy gently caress Miyata you whiny bitch.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

The Notorious ZSB posted:

They don't care about his brain trauma, mostly because next to no one knows about it. His mom, girl, and coaches know, but it's not like his press release on his retirement explained why. He basically just said "I'm done now, thanks for everything".

Shouldn't anyone who saw his fight with Guevara have noticed the obvious? Even if you just excuse his problems with dodging and landing hits to having to fight a southpaw, Ippo was getting knocked down by grazes to his head.

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TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

The Notorious ZSB posted:

Kumi and Ippo need to do a thing, anything besides staring at each other wistfully.

Never gonna happen and you know it.

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