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Narwhale posted:I hope the government never figures out a way to listen in on phone conversations. Why, they would need secret agreements with the telecoms and that's just crazy talk! 
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Feb 25, 2010 18:39
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RagnarokAngel posted:If it were that easy why not just flee to Canada and live the high life as an illegal there? It's clearly a bulletproof strategy. These colors don't run! 
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May 23, 2010 00:12
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Subject: Can you believe this? The angel of he Lord encamps around those who fear Him and He delivers them. The righteous cry out and the Lord hears them; He delivers them from all their troubles. Ps. 34: 7 and 17  THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS STATEMENT EVER MADE BY A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, LET ALONE BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THIS GUY IS OUR "COMMANDER IN CHIEF". HERE IS HIS RESPONSE WHEN HE BACKED OFF FROM HIS DECISION TO REQUIRE THE MILITARY PAY FOR THEIR WAR INJURIES. Bad press, including major mockery of the plan by comedian Jon Stewart, led to President Obama abandoning his proposal to require veterans carry private health insurance to cover the estimated $540 million annual cost to the federal government of treatment for injuries to military personnel received during their tours on active duty. The President admitted that he was puzzled by the magnitude of the opposition to his proposal.  "Look, it's an all volunteer force," Obama complained. "Nobodymade these guys go to war. They had to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the costs of their choice? It doesn't compute.." "I thought these were people who were proud to sacrifice for their country, "Obama continued. "I wasn't asking for blood, just money. With the country facing the worst financial crisis in its history, I'd have thought that the patriotic thing to do would be to try to help reduce the nation's deficit. I guess I underestimated the selfishness of some of my fellow Americans." Please pass this on to every vet and their families whom you know. REMEMBER THIS STATEMENT... "Nobody made these guys go to war. They had to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the costs of their choice?"  If this jerk thinks he will ever get another vote from anyone who is or has been associated with the military service he's nuts.. If you or a family member is serving or has served their country, please send this to them. I'm guessing that everyone, other than the 20-25 percent hardcore liberals in the US , will agree that this is another example of why Obama is the worst president in American history. Remind everyone over-and-over how this man thinks, while he bows to the Saudi Arabian king. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/veteranshealth.asp tl;dr version: conservative reads another conservatives satire and thinks its God's honest truth. Fires up the old internets to send me an email. I do not know when some one injected the psalm into the chain but it adds a touch of class to the whole thing.
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Jun 26, 2010 05:25
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The_Rob posted:Not only that. Most imported beers are wayy stronger and manlier than loving Bud and Miller. Not only that. Bud is now owned by fer'ners.
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Oct 24, 2010 18:49
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RagnarokAngel posted:Cause they're too proud of this country Ronald Reagan Founding Fathers (Except for Jefferson [sometimes]) White America Matlock And most likely in that order.
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Nov 13, 2010 00:01
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Orange Devil posted:Well ofcourse they are, I mean, if they build a bridge with your tax dollars instead, it'd be your bridge right? The point is, my tax dollars shouldn't be going to help those people. I'm sure Ragnarok there agrees, boy.
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Nov 19, 2010 18:50
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Omerta posted:I don't think there can be a thoughtful political discussion over Facebook. I don't have political conversations with my family unless they goad me into it. Even then, it just frustrates me because it never makes a difference. It always boils down to (1) overly broad generalization/objectively false statement like 'those people' take MY TAX DOLLARS and use it on welfare for the rest of their lives (2) I ask them to guess how much time the average person spends on welfare, 20+ years or something (3) send whoever it is statistics from government or neutral think tank that refute it (4) no response back, no mention of the issue again. But you see any day now they just might crack the golden egg and when they do they don't want to lose all that money to taxes so they better just go ahead and vote now to keep those taxes down because any day now they'll be in that bracket.
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Nov 20, 2010 19:49
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Fatkraken posted:(for non UK folk, the country has a large deficit and the government is making many cuts including introducing very high university fees, many lib dems have voted in favour of these despite the party campaigning on a pledge NOT to do so. At the same time, estimates of the amount of corporate tax evasion/avoidance in the country come to an amount that could allow us to avoid the worst cuts if we actually made them pay it) You're saying that if the rich were to just pay the taxes that they owe your revenue problems would be fixed? Well I never!
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Dec 11, 2010 17:55
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Vonnegut Asterisk posted:My family is investing thousands of dollars into the Iraqi Dinar and expects to be millionaires within a few weeks. http://www.iraqidinarscam.info/ First hit off Google. Started typing "Iraqi dinar" and it autopopulated "Iraq dinar scam". Sounds like your family just got scammed hard.
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Dec 13, 2010 05:26
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Arglebargle III posted:Just echoing this incomprehension. How did they explain it to you? Is the Iraqi central bank buying up 80% of Iraq's currency? How could they ever expect currency exchange to net them 10000% profits? The scam apparently goes from the following logic when currency sellers pitch it: 1. Iraqi Dinars are currently bottom barrel exchange rates with the US dollar because of our military operations there have obviously destabilized the economy. 2. This destabilization plummeted the value of the Dinar. 3. The US won't be in Iraq for ever acting as a destabilizing force. 4. Iraq's economy will recover from its current lows or stated more obviously get much stronger. 5. A stronger economy == stronger Dinar 6. You can now buy back dollars with your much stronger Dinar, the better exchange rate netting you massive profits 7. Sit around and be smug over your neighbors as they are now the poors and you are rich. There are a whole host of assumptions in there already but one very important thing that they forget to mention is that if you are going to do your buyback into dollars you have to do it in Iraq.
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Dec 13, 2010 19:22
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cheerfullydrab posted:All of modern America's institutions are a conspiratorial system designed to keep that single person down, which is why they can never get any money. But this here, this person selling dinars outside of the system, he will be their salvation. If you believe that then I got this van full of stereo equipment that I can sell you on the cheap man. Its a hot offer so its going to move quick so buy now!
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Dec 13, 2010 23:24
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Enjoy posted:I thought the phrase referred to execution by firing squad? So he is obviously a proponent of the provisional wing of the Tea Party, the Freedom Corps (or "freikorps") He is just proposing a creative second amendment interpretation to the problem in hopes of furthering the discourse and any insinuation that he'd ever actively promote or wish violence on another person should immediately be called out for the liberal blood libel that it is, duh.
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Jan 21, 2011 04:32
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Speaking of Conservapedia, their best article has to be the one on evolution. I'm not really sure what segment is the best one to highlight but if I had to pick it would be everything past and including the section titled: Creation Scientists Tend to Win the Creation-Evolution Debates. Really puts the cognitive dissonance and blatant rewriting of reality to fit their own beliefs on display.
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Apr 17, 2011 03:59
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Dominion posted:I love how he spends a few minutes asking "Is it racist when we say X? Huh, is it?" and the sane answer for each is simply "Yes." Is it racist for me to say that I want to round up every Muslim (in this context, every person of southwest Asian descent basically) in the country and forcibly deport them from the US?
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Apr 20, 2011 20:48
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The formatting is the best part. I tried to recreate it as best I could, but imagine the text size getting up to size 26 at some points (like every mentioning of the DoE):Crazy forwarded e-mail posted:This is Absolutely The funniest joke ever.........
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Apr 23, 2011 19:14
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crime fighting hog posted:Oh god: There is no right way to respond to that. Tribalism has long since taken a firm hold on him.
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May 3, 2011 03:03
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crime fighting hog posted:It's a cousin I've only met once Sorry for your lost. There are entire wings of my family that like that and when politics come up there is no discussion, just sermons about how liberals and Obama are destroying the country. Anything I say is just because I'm too young to know better and just you wait until have to pay taxes too.
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May 3, 2011 03:13
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Corbet posted:This is the first conservative e-mail I don't have a good reply for. Any ideas? First blush I'd say that most of those cities fall into rust belt cities that have had a slow death since their industry outsourced to China and/or are immigrant cities where most of the residents that are poor are either immigrant or their recent descendents. Both of those things which are for the most part out of the control of the city itself. vvvvvv Also I wonder if all of these cities still have partisan mayoral elections to even say if they elect a Republican or Democrat at all. Dameius fucked around with this message at 03:05 on May 4, 2011 |
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York_M_Chan posted:Be careful, while they may be "red" states, a little research will show: Be careful you don't fall for the trap aswell of Democrats at the state level in the South vs. the national party. Dixiecrats locally and Republicans federally is still S.O.P. in many southern cities/states.
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Habibi posted:I'm pretty sure he's also the only president in the nation's history to have banged a black chick. That he didn't own. That just means he is doing it wrong. Yet another thing Obama can't do right, gosh!
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May 9, 2011 21:04
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Strawman posted:Of course torture works, you can easily get people to confess to things they never even did. If torture is good enough for Jack Bauer then torture is good enough for America.
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May 12, 2011 00:05
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Hyosho posted:It's interesting to note how often torture completely fails in 24. The first guy Jack tortures dies of heart failure without giving up the information he needs, Jack and several other CTU agents resist torture quite effectively (Jack actually dies under torture), he tortures a little blond girl in series 2 and she gives him false information (he figures out she's lying, but not by torturing her). It isn't a myth when Scalia cites 24 in defense of torture.
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May 12, 2011 01:08
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I find it funny that they talk about walking to the store back then instead of jumping into the car to go two blocks when they are the people that do that today. Never change boomers and the Silent generation. 
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RagnarokAngel posted:Mind me asking but where did you goto college? I can't really comment I admit because I was a Psychology/Social Work major so most of my professors were at least left of center bare minimum but I've found many people in academia do lean to the left. To answer with my own experience: Two of my professors that I liked the most were both deeply deeply conservative. One went to grad school with John Yoo and ran with that crowd and the other just grew up conservative and never changed. Both of them were PoliSci and both of them were teachers first, opinionated conservatives second. Whenever we had class discussion, which was very often, they were tolerant of any viewpoint no matter how divergent from their own it was only if you could support it with solid logic and facts and such. Long story short, I always ended up on the opposite viewpoint as they did and ended up constantly having to rigorously defend my positions and the more I did so the more it pushed me to become more and more progressive. When I wrote my term papers in their classes, in the parts that asked for our opinions I was scathingly critical of conservative policies and ideas and I made to sure to heavily source everything I said and they graded the papers based on the quality of the argument, not the content so I passed with solid As. I'm also pretty sure that if they were shown that LF thread they would both find it hilarious for whatever that is worth. Fake Edit: I don't want to say what school I went to but it is in the bible belt.
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Sarion posted:I agree with you, as does the Constitution. It only gives Congress the authority to grant creators limited time for which they hold exclusive ownership of the intellectual property they create. In fact the original duration was only 14 years. Which makes all these conservatives who have a hard on for the founding fathers pushing Mickey Mouse laws all the more transparent in their opportunism.
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They want you to become a sissy effete male by not teaching you manly skills (mostly a correct criticism [under value of shop classes] for entirely the wrong reasons) and that is just one part of their tolerance package to get you to not only accept gays but be gay yourself. It is important to remember that they literally want to turn you into a gay, commie, Jesus hating liberal by age 18.
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Low information voters still think Obama is the valiant champion of the masses but those mean old Republicans keep blocking him at every turn instead of reality.
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The worst part to me is that on a surface level it appears your cousin has his heart in the right place. He just lacks any kind of self reflection or critical thought on the matter, refuses to do so, and has a little too big a hard on for the, "thin blue line," mentality when it comes to ARE troops. Just a depressing example of what persistent jingoistic propaganda can do to people.
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You shouldn't put too much focus on the Great Depression when talking about economic recoveries while under the gold standard because we have the 19th century boom/bust cycles (with the most useful examples coming from the latter half of the century) to show how economies can easily overheat, explode and recover. That isn't to say the Great Depression should be ignored by any means but since it seems like you can have a pretty rational and intelligent conversation with this guy and by proxy his brother, look into those cycles as well -the Panic of 1893 in particular.
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Taking the chain e-mail into the classroom!
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Absurd Alhazred posted:The difference is that old leftists, unless they've given up and gone conservative in their old age, simply never retire. If they care enough to remain leftists, they're still out there, active, going on protests, getting the word out, etc. They don't pass emails around - they are the subject of emails passed around! To expand on that a little, I'm involved in several local activist organizations and in all of them there are people who range up to their 70s still actively protesting things. One guy was telling me a story of protesting in Toronto or Seattle when a cop clubbed him to the ground. He heard some people yell that a cop was picking on that old guy and he started looking around while on the ground to see who he needed to go help. When he realized they meant him was the first time he felt old. Anecdotaly, to me, that is the typical graybeard leftist while the graybeard conservatives spend a lot of time fwd: emails around.
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Sarion posted:It's almost as if these people lack any sense of nuance. Why isn't everything treated exactly the same?! Because that's how you get Communism, that's why.
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CellBlock posted:You're an individual before birth, then you're nothing until you're not poor, at which point you get your personhood ceded back to you. It's why corporations are people, they can afford to buy personhood. They're black. 
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Jul 18, 2012 14:58
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Leon Einstein posted:This is a common conservative viewpoint, but it's completely wrong. Getting a letter anywhere in the country in a few days for 44 cents is pretty goddamn impressive. The USPS was hamstrung by the right forcing them to PRE-PAY pensions for the next 75 years. This has been making it appear that they've been losing huge amounts of money for years and years. The GOP will be happy as pigs in poo poo when it is eventually replaced by private companies that won't deliver to unprofitable areas. The irony rich icing on that irony cake is that all of the unprofitable areas that the private sector won't deliver to are the same areas that the private sector refuses to deliver to now. We tend to describe it as the rural/farm base of the Republican party. So not only are they voting against their own economic interests but they are voting against their ability to send/receive a chain letter. edit: balls this thread moved fast but I'll leave it here.
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I can't help but think of that argument coming out of some douche noble's mouth in the Spanish court when Columbus was seeking investors as a reason to not give him the money needed to field the expedition. And if Columbus is too charged an example because of the path of atrocities and destruction he left in his wake then pick a different state funded explorer at pretty much any point in human history.
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And just coincidentally the mosquito example picked was poorly chosen because if I recall correctly a research team has a test run right now in some Australian town to see if their anti-malarial engineered mosquitos can out compete and supplant the native population. On my phone so can't dig the link right now but I know NPR or PRI or one of those guys did a piece on him within a few weeks ago. Fake edit: forgot to say that it perfectly illustrates that we can run parallel research across multiple disciplines instead of setting science to 30 beakers and pick away at Future Tech X.
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Mo_Steel posted:Well, without a social safety net a large swath of the poor people may die of starvation, lacking medical care, crime, exposure, etc. So in that instance, maybe Romney does want fewer poor people. By letting them die in the gutters. Romney has a modest proposal for dealing with the poor, entitled 47% in the country. Coincidentally do you fancy some veal?
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Ben Stein is all sorts of crazy but he made his name as a speech writer. Unless he has some late stage dementia/Alzheimer's disease that he has kept quiet I'm pretty sure he'd never produce something so lovely.
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Farrok posted:I doubt it will change their minds, but there's always these charts that concisely sum up everything thats wrong with this country: Don't forget a third one to cover housing costs too while you are at it.
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