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I use low DPI because I'm too lazy to switch modes every time I start a game or go back to desktop. 
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Wooper posted:Lower the sensitivity in your OS to match. Last I remember there's some interpolation bullshit going on when you don't have the Windows cursor speed at default. The MarkC Mousefix needs to be customized to your configuration if you do that, at least. DPI x sensitivity = pixels moved. Unless you're playing games where literal pixel perfect precision is important, it doesn't matter much how things are configured when the end result is about the same. My FPS roots are Quake engine based games so half my aiming is done via strafing/movement anyways, and honestly the G502 I'm using is too heavy for millimeter precise adjustments (or I need to also invest in a fancier mousepad).
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Sep 4, 2018 18:19
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kaschei posted:This isn’t true in any FPS, this doesn’t even have the right units as the truth. Mouse events turn you in degrees and perspective means the ratio between apparent length and degrees depends on distance and field of view. I agree it's not exact, and it wasn't really meant to be because different games have different implementations. Regardless of which DPI setting you use though you're still adjusting for the same end result: you want to be targeting x thing after y physical movement.
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Sep 5, 2018 02:10
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Sounds like you have a hardware defect, contact Logitech support.
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Sep 14, 2018 16:19
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What's a good lightweight app to lock the mouse inside the window when playing borderless fullscreen windowed mode? Some games don't seem to offer it as a native feature.
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Oct 2, 2018 12:35
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Audax posted:Dual monitor tools. You can set up a bind so with the press of a button your cursor stays inside the monitor and with a second press is set free. I should clarify - I'm only using a single monitor. However, I've noticed in a couple games that my mouse clicks stop registering because the mouse is presumably riding the edge of the screen (after tracking something by looking right, I have to move the mouse left to be able to click). The behavior is probably in part because I'm playing with upscaled 1080p on a 4k monitor, I'd never seen the issue previously when playing at native resolution.
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Oct 2, 2018 13:47
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Got a Logitech Triathlon because I needed to replace my hand-me-down laptop mouse with something that actually has thumb buttons. Don't need the multi-device switching, but I wanted the hyper scroll and the Triathlon has the gear shift on a separate button instead of the middle click on the Anywhere 2. One thing I didn't realize while looking at it at the store was that there's actually a hidden thumb button where you press your thumb into the lower side and it actuates a button there, by default opening the Windows Alt-Tab view. The other thing I didn't realize was that while the top shell of the mouse is a neutral dark grey color, the base is pure white. It's probably some 'running shoes' aesthetic they were trying to hit to go with the Triathlon name but  .
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Oct 9, 2018 07:35
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lordfrikk posted:I want to buy a wireless mouse because gently caress cables and also my G500 which I estimate from it being introduced in 2009 is almost 10 goddamn years old at this point and the left button double clicks all the time. I assume it wouldn't be hard to fix the left button but I also don't want to deal with cables anymore. Probably going to buy a wireless keyboard, too, while I'm at it. Right now I have a loud as heck mechanical keyboard and I'm being threatened by my SO I will be moved out if I keep using it. Also it's hard to clean because I have to take off the keycaps which I never do. If you're buying a combination wireless keyboard/mouse package the usual names are Logitech or Microsoft, both of whom do respectable peripherals and generally don't have any glaring flaws. Buying separately will probably cost more but you get more options in terms of brands and features and it comes down to deciding what you actually want in your devices. Something you want to think about right now is what kind of wireless you're using, because you generally have the choice of either a USB dongle type or a Bluetooth type. USB doesn't care what kind of computer you're pairing to as long as you have spare USB-A ports but it'll occupy a port per device unless you go for something with a unifying receiver, and you want to keep them away from anything doing USB 3.0 because those are known to cause wireless interference. Bluetooth is a little more work to set up but doesn't use any ports, though you are limited to newer machines that actually have Bluetooth functionality (most any modern laptop should be able to, your desktop might not support it). Definitely go into a store to look at display models, some have nuances that you won't notice looking at a spec sheet. That MX Anywhere doesn't have a middle click for example since it toggles the hyper scroll instead, which is an automatic dealbreaker for me but maybe not for you.
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Oct 9, 2018 12:29
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Ynglaur posted:I think you can change the middle button below the scroll wheel to be middle click instead of gesture. Yeah you can rebind the buttons via Logitech software but I have no particular inclination to relearn how to middle click things, particularly when the new middle click is much less accessible. Other users who don't use middle click won't care and will enjoy the mouse much more than I would.
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Oct 9, 2018 16:58
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Honestly I have no idea who intentionally uses DPI shifting mid-match, aside from the sniper buttons that only shifts while the button is held. Particularly on mice with multi-profile settings, it seems like an easy way to bump into the wrong profile by accident and die unexpectedly. If you're only swapping profiles when launching a game or maybe when switching characters then taking an extra second to hit a button under the mouse doesn't seem like a huge deal. For productivity users, I'm not sure who uses multiple profiles either. Mouse acceleration should be covering pretty much everything you need there, you don't need the perfect consistency that gamers expect.
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Oct 16, 2018 11:55
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Atomizer posted:Basically what Qubee said. Some people don't need to switch sensitivity at all, but if you do it's a whole lot less convenient to have to flip the mouse over every time to hit the button. Qubee's example seems like a low stress context where hitting a bottom button isn't a big deal even if it's not ideal. Depends on how much you use the menus I assume, usually I barely use them after I have my bindings dialed in. If a sniper clutch is important to your usage you wouldn't use most default profile switch buttons in the first place since they're not located in a place that's easily held down while using the rest of the mouse, so it's moot whether the default profile switch is above or below the mouse. If an easily accessible profile switch is important to you, why not remap it to a more accessible button? I'd love to see metrics on how often profile switching is actually used, particularly consistent profile switching as opposed to 'oops let me hit the button a few more times to figure out where I was'.
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Oct 17, 2018 02:55
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After installing the Logitech software and loving around with it, I have learned that the secret thumb button is actually a gesture button and has gesture actions! This is something that the minimalist packaging did not hint at in any way (hell, I didn't even know the button existed looking at the packaging) and I never thought to try moving the mouse while holding the button. The packaging does specifically say there's 8 customizable buttons while the software only lets me customize 6, so either something changed in the software or they're doing some kind of convoluted "there's 8 buttons of which some are customizable" that they didn't clarify in the footnotes where they say you need to download the software. It also turns out that the software only allows binding DPI shifting as a toggle and not as a clutch, so you can't rebind something as a sniper button. Maybe they can add that in the future. In other news, I discovered that you can buy form-fitted clamshell cases for most Logitech wireless mice on Amazon so they can travel in comfort and safety. 
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Oct 18, 2018 11:23
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Atomizer posted:I've never attempted the mouse gestures. They seem intuitive enough as touch input, not so much with the mouse. Yeah, co2crea and Hermitshell were the two main brands I saw when I was poking around, and I did prefer the design of the co2crea version to the Hermitshell one. Unfortunately(?) I don't have any of the other products they have custom cases for. 
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Oct 19, 2018 08:22
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If you paid for it in Australian dollars, use that vaunted Australian return policy?
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Oct 19, 2018 12:43
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lordfrikk posted:Thanks for the info but is something that encourages correct touch typing technique really something to be negative about? It might be "correct" technique but if it's slowing you down or causing you errors, is it worth it? My typing style grew out of playing MUDs and other video games in my youth and it doesn't follow all the standard practices, but I can hit 140wpm in Typeracer so there's no particular reason I should relearn how to type. Getting off topic for the mouse thread though so I'll leave it there.
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Oct 25, 2018 13:51
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My only complaint about the G502 is that it's a bit on the heavy side. Originally I thought I wouldn't care, then over time I realized it was hampering my twitching in FPS games just a little. All weights removed, of course. The thumb buttons are also annoyingly far forward for my preference and also a little vertical relative to my thumb resting point but that's almost every mouse ever made so I'm not faulting the 502 for that. The sniper button is impossible for me to hit without a complete shift into palm grip though.
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Nov 19, 2018 17:14
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If you added any USB 3.0 devices recently, try unplugging them as well. They can and will cause interference on nearby wireless devices (i.e. the neighboring mouse receiver).
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Nov 24, 2018 05:59
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Wengy posted:That looks cool indeed, but I do have a metal desk - won't this cause issues? I've also read that the little door thingy on the bottom of the G-Pro is magnetic, wouldn't it 'stick' to the surface of my desk? This is more complicated than I thought. Depending on the polarity maybe the magnet will actually give you a little more glide! 
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Dec 6, 2018 08:38
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Wengy posted:I've never used the numpad in my entire life, what am I missing? Then again, I only use PC keyboards to game and do all of my work on a Macbook. If you ever need to punch in a whole lot of numbers, the numpad lets you do it real fast with a single hand. Also pretty nice with calculator apps since the operators also have their own dedicated keys. Outside of data entry they're less compelling, but some games are much easier to play using numpad (think roguelikes with diagonal movement) and in the past I've used the numpad as essentially a set of dedicated macro keys for games that permit custom binds.
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Dec 7, 2018 10:47
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qsvui posted:But those keys aren't on the numpad They are if you toggle the function lock!
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Dec 8, 2018 04:55
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I feel like mice became dominant mostly because of optical mice which didn't need you to gently caress around with cleaning the balls (or the rods which I found was usually the culprit rather than the balls themselves). Haven't used a trackball enough to ever need to perform maintenance on one but I assume they're the same way, albeit with less frequency since the ball isn't rolling across the desk to pick up more dust.
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Dec 12, 2018 00:21
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Razer QA might be debatable due to volume but their customer support is generally recognized as being quite poor. And don't even try to defend their driver suite. Microsoft mice are boring but good quality. If you don't need specialist features they're worth considering.
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Jan 3, 2019 20:37
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Asus has a few mice with replaceable switches if you're willing to put the work in to swap them whenever double-clicking starts. There might be a couple other brands/models that offer that as well, I don't have them all memorized.
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Jan 13, 2019 19:15
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I had a MX500 which is basically the same mouse, and while it was good for the time I wouldn't say the design has aged well. The teflon feet were tiny little things (maybe they've improved on that, didn't see any pictures of the underside) and the mousewheel is small and smooth and deeply embedded (does not appear to have been improved based on the pictures). There's a reason why modern designs have trended towards big broad wheels with texture/grooves.
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Feb 20, 2019 20:07
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Mister Fister posted:I used this mouse back in the day. I don't see anything online about this being relaunched though?? They're saying that they want it to be relaunched, not that it currently is.
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Feb 21, 2019 10:54
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Goo posted:It's manufactured using exactly the same tooling so the tolerances should be identical. Will Logitech do a video walk-through of the tooling vault? It sounds pretty cool, I remember seeing Lego doing a video of their vault and it was neat.
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Feb 26, 2019 03:15
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latinotwink1997 posted:Yea, it kinda sucks they went away from the 5 small feet design to the three large ones. I think it was purely to make it more difficult to take the mouse apart. I prefer the big feet because the larger surface area means they have better adhesion, it sucks when one of the feet fall off. I can get replacement feet of course but it's even better when I don't have to.
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Feb 27, 2019 19:42
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KingKapalone posted:What type of mouse should I get for my desk at work? Seems like if you look for a wired mouse, they're all gaming mice. I have a G502 at home for gaming but I'm sure that's overkill at work. Ideally I'll get it from Best Buy. I enjoy having the hyper-scroll for working through long webpages and documents (you should already know if you would use it or not since you have a G502) but other than that I don't think there's much in the way of recommendation for a wired office mouse, just grab something from a reputable manufacturer after trying out the store samples. Things only start narrowing down when you have specific feature needs (the aforementioned hyper-scroll, extra buttons, horizontal scroll, multi-device switching, etc.).
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Mar 19, 2019 12:49
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Appoda posted:How's the mouthfeel? I don't think that's how you're supposed to be holding the mouse. 
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Mar 30, 2019 08:28
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SwissArmyDruid posted:but god, I miss that free-spinning wheel for everything that's not games. 100% the reason I picked up the M720 Triathlon for my laptop use, the hyper scroll is just too good for productivity. I would have also preferred something lighter but that was really the only choice after the MX Master got disqualified (I can't live without a middle mouse click either).
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Apr 7, 2019 00:27
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EoRaptor posted:My 502 has a free spin toggle button just behind the wheel? Am I completely misunderstanding your issue with the mouse? They're saying they can't go all-in on the 518 after having experienced the wonders of the free scrolling on the 502.
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Apr 7, 2019 07:18
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Khorne posted:In MMOs I prefer to use a keyboard. I'll never understand excessive mouse keys. Even m5 is difficult to use, m3 borders unusable in games but is great for productivity, and m4/mwheel are okay but only if you don't have to aim while using them. MMO mice are so you can play one handed while chain smoking with the other.
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Apr 23, 2019 04:45
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Atomizer posted:It's just a DPI toggle though. You can set any button on your mouse to do the same thing in software. It's an alternative to cycling through multiple DPI steps. Not quite true, the sniper button returns the DPI to normal when released which is behavior you can't replicate by mapping DPI toggling to another button (or at least, I was unable to a few months ago when I experimented with it). I never used the sniper button on the G502 myself, it's simply set too far forward for my fingertip grip. Even the hidden gesture button on the M720 is outside my comfortable access area, my thumb rests right at the edge of it on the internal frame so I have to shift my thumb forward if I want to hit it. There doesn't seem to be any mouse intended for a pure fingertip grip style, it's all palm or claw placement. 
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May 11, 2019 12:03
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Atomizer posted:I don't use the button myself, but it would be highly odd if you couldn't map that function in software, because it's not like the ~sniper~ button is a special piece of hardware or anything like that. There's a whole list of functions in LGS that can be reassigned to the button; could it be "DPI shift?" I can't be bothered to test it but I'd bet that's the function. I just reinstalled the Logitech Options software to double check and realized I'm the dumbass because the M720 doesn't have DPI shifting, just pointer speed toggling. The pointer speed toggle doesn't behave like a sniper button but it's not the meant to be the same behavior anyways I guess. Don't have any of the gaming mice handy to cross-test.
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May 12, 2019 13:01
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Looks like the M510 uses 2x AA batteries, so you could probably find something that uses a single battery and that would shave off a good chunk of weight. The M585/590 is about 20% lighter and is probably your best bet, since everything smaller/lighter seems to be lacking in thumb buttons.
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May 13, 2019 14:04
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Khorne posted:It's often due to dust and debris. It can happen real fast in dirty environments, but even a pretty clean desk will eventually lead to buildup over the course of a few years. There's also been mention of static buildup being a contributing factor to double clicks, though this is more climate dependent.
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May 17, 2019 18:21
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Aiming is just as much about getting the muscle memory in as it is about dialing in your DPI/sensitivity. No matter how 'ideal' a setting is, you're going to need to learn to work with it (hence your experience that it's so slow when you dropped it). Different play styles and preferences means there's no setup perfect for everyone anyways. If your tracking ends up overshooting too often dial down the sensitivity, if you're undershooting then bump it up. A simple tracking test is to target something like a pillar and just circle strafe around it while trying to keep your crosshair on point. Flick shots is mostly muscle memory, make sure you don't have any acceleration going if you're struggling with that.
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May 31, 2019 09:01
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Perhaps the design of the mouse is somehow exacerbating static buildup to cause click registration issues?
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Jul 4, 2019 12:29
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Atomizer posted:Except, like I said, I still have many mice that don't have that issue and they're far older with far more use than the ones that are failing. How are you controlling for confirmation bias, since the majority of mice aren't failing and you have no reason to exchange a working mouse? I get that it's frustrating to deal with click issues, but as a tiny moving part it's also a component most prone to failure. Maybe Omron actually is dropping the ball and their QC has gone to poo poo, but without hard data it just sounds like another generic 'they built things to last back in my day'.
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Lambert posted:That's really why I'm interested in the Zowie as well. Hate having to run trash software like G Hub. Also: No braided cable. You can run Logitech mice without the additional software just fine? You only need it for additional features like button remapping with I don't think any mouse can do using only stock drivers.
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