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Great purchase dude! That is a very fine looking 9000 you have there. As people have pointed out already it's getting way too hard to find classic Saabs in that sort of condition. I've always thought that the 9000 was under appreciated - they really are awesome cars. I've had my 5-speed Aero for around 7 months and I've enjoyed every single second I've spent with it. I still take the long way home. Here she is: And for whoever asked about the seats.. yes, Saab have always made the best, most comfortable seats in the industry.  Enjoy your 9000!
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Francis Baconator posted:That is some sweet SAAB porn, man. Those seats are truly badass. How many miles are on that baby? I don't think I've gotten to see some good pics of a 9000 Aero. Didn't the Aero make 225hp? Perhaps some under-hood shots are in order. Thanks, man! It's done around 135,000 miles and still runs as smooth and reliable as anything, admittedly after very regular servicing. Having said that, today I experienced my very first DIC failure! I truly feel part of the Saab family now. Under the hood? There'd be nothing to see unfortunately - it'd probably look almost identical to yours. I haven't had the chance to do anything to it yet but we will see what the future brings. Perhaps I will get sick of 'enough' power after at some point. Seriously though, if you ever get the chance to own a good 5-speed Aero, do it. They're amazing cars. Previous to purchasing my 9000 I had only driven a few Automatic Aeros, which are nice (definitely up there with the best automatics I've driven) but they're by no means fast. The 5-speeds though, they're a completely different car - boy howdy do they shift! The torque these things have is phenomenal, from memory something like 260 lb-ft from 1950rpm, but again even these figures don't really do it justice. There are a few sweet-spots I've picked up on.. like in second gear at around 25mph, bury the throttle and your mind actually warps. In-gear acceleration is so good and the torque wave so early you can basically forget about downshifting at all. As Dave has mentioned already, learn how to drive it without torque-steering yourself into the bushes and they really are incredibly rapid cars over long distances. With a nice sticky set of tires they're like a cat to carpet around corners too. In regards to your comments about gear-shifting, in my opinion manual 9000s aren't really fast-shifting cars to begin with anyway. I find they respond better to smoothness and technique more than anything else. Just out of curiosity how do you find the gearing in your car? I ask because this is one of the very few complaints I have about my own car. 2000 rpm at 60 mph is awesome for open-road cruising, but the gears are so long that they tend to get a bit annoying in traffic. I suspect the NA models were a bit more modestly geared? Funny you mention that 'sigh' the air con gives out in the 900 when you adjust it. That has always been one of my favourite quirks about those cars! One of the very fond memories I have of my dad's old 900 from when I was a kid.
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Even though mine is N/A, it's still fun to throw around with the 5 speed and it doesn't have that pesky TCS. 
Still, they're both great cars and I'm glad I had a chance to drive both.
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dur posted:Awesome! '94 Aero owner here wishing he had archives. I had always wondered what an Aero wraparound front bumper would look like with a CS lower lip.. I've often thought the deeper lip of the CS looks better than the relatively flatter Aero lip. It looks pretty good! Are you still in a classic Saab? There is no where near enough classic Saab love around here.
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MALCOLM XTREME posted:jesus christ those are nice seats. That photo doesn't do them justice either; 9000 Aero seats are truly a work of art. Apart from looking amazing, they're still the most comfortable and supportive car seats I've sat in to date. I'm sure anyone else that's sat in a good set of them will back me up on that. To come from a car that is 15+ years old now, well that just makes them all that much more impressive. Here have a brochure shot. 
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Mcqueen posted:Problem 2: First of all, jealous to the core - you own my dream car. Secondly, I'm not 100% up on 9-3's but judging from your description it sounds like you have air in your hydraulic clutch system. As long as it's not getting worse and you're not grinding gears as they're engaged then the only damage this can do is general annoyance. If the grip point is so far down the peddle that you're grinding gears, you need a clutch bleed asap. As Mario pointed out, there is no cable involved here. I've bleed the clutch on my 9000 Aero a few times and if your 9-3 is similar at all which I suspect it would be, the clutch and the brakes do share a reservoir but are separate systems from there onwards, meaning you won't have to bleed your brakes at all. Just hook up a pressure bleeder to the reservoir and open your clutch master bleed nipple. If you don't have a pressure bleeder there are a few Macgyver home-rigs you can make instead, for instance out a bicycle tyre. Let me know if you want more information on that.
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drat, that is a beautiful Viggen. Congratulations! I'm immensely jealous. I'm such a huge fan of factory Viggen wheels that I tend to think that Viggens don't take well to aftermarket wheels, but the wheels on your new car look incredible. What are they?
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Clayton Bigsby posted:Aero is home. Congratulations! That's a beautiful car. Have you seen Jeremy Clarkson test driving the 9-5 Aero on Top Gear? Youtube it if you haven't, it's worth a watch. I have issues with aftermarket wheels on Saabs though - did the original wheels also come with the car? Not that yours look entirely bad, but I think the standard 5-spokers look even better. What colour is the interior? Give us more pics  Four Banger posted:And I think My favourite thing to do is listen to that turbo spool in second and third gear when I get onto the highway on my way to work. Better than a coffee. Ditto. Also I'm in on the ridiculously short first gear thing - even my 9000 Aero was the same. I wonder what Saab's reasoning here was?
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fyo posted:I'm not sure if I understood correctly, but I think he said in that video that "Saab Parts" is a separate entity that is not going bankrupt at the moment, so parts should still be readily available. That is correct - Saab Parts is a stand-alone company, with its own funding independent of Saab Automobile. It also happens to be a pretty profitable company too, so don't expect parts supply for your secondhand Saabs to dry up overnight. I'd say they'll be around for a pretty decent amount of time. Warranties on newer Saabs though, they're hosed unfortunately.
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Hey Saab friends, look what I picked up on the weekend! After 18 painless and rather affordable months of being Saabless, I've plunged right back into the glorious world of misery and despair that is Saab ownership, and I love it all over again.    It's a 5-speed '94 9000 Aero, 190,000kms. Still fun as hell. Still the best seats ever. Still smells like crayons and motor oil. Still pretty much the best car in the world. According to the previous owner the original turbo started smoking a few years ago so it got replaced by a Garret T25 (from an automatic B234L) since Mistubishi TD-04 units are so god drat rare this side of the world. Or probably anywhere now for that matter. This means there's a noticeable drop in power compared my old 5-speed Aero, but this thing still hauls like anything from pretty much any engine speed. In fact, I would go so far as to say that even though there is slightly less power at the peak end, the torque seems to pile on from slightly lower revs with the smaller turbo. The exhaust has had some work done to it too - it makes more noise than stock.. there's a nice smooth growl to the exhaust note at low revs and a fun little burble on deceleration. I'm not generally a fan of louder-than-stock exhausts, but this one I can live with. I think it might even grow on me. Generally it's in pretty good condition but there are some minor chips and scratches around as you would expect. All the electrics function and the interior is completely intact, but it needs a massive clean. I basically plan to spend the next week cleaning every inch of this car to bring it up to my own overly-anal standard of car presentation. Things I plan to do over the coming months: - Swap orange turn signals for white ones - Find original Saab footwell carpets - Install engine immobiliser - Reinstall TD-04 if I can track one down - Install stage 1 ECU - Upgrade suspension, lowering ride height by around 20mm I'm thinking - Upgrade to larger brake disks if I can fit them in - Buy some decent Michelins - Upgrade head unit and speakers I'm loving stoked  edit: for image size. Sabmo fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Sep 26, 2012 |
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Viggen posted:I also find it quite amusing that the infamous seats were devised after watching this: Just makes them all the more cooler I think! Agreed, Dave. There is only one thing Saab got wrong with the 9000. They put the ignition barrel in the wrong place.
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It probably is about time I got off my bum and started getting my mitts grubby under the bonnet.Viggen posted:Just offered to buy a parts car - for the expense of stripping the parts I don't want. Also, an NG900 with 355,000 miles on it -if it could drive the 200 miles to get here. Intervention is not necessary until you have more than one Saab for each day of the week. Did you get the 900?
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Viggen posted:Buddy of mine bought (current) car #6 today. Roughly $850. Only problem is the broken headlamp wipers. 9000 CSE for $850 (and it's Silver!) Sweet deal! I've always really liked silver non-Aero 9000's. For some reason they just look so right with the black bumper moldings and everything. It reminds me of my old CSE, except mine was forest green. I picked it up for US$550 and all it needed was a few tyres - luckily I already had a set of Super Aeros & tyres I was able to put straight on. It only blew a single radiator hose the year I owned it, amazing to drive, didn't bat an eyelid at 1,500km trips, but it did blow a bit of smoke. Oh look, it had a broken headlight wiper too.  God I miss it. But more importantly, there is a complete set of black 9000 Aero seats for US$42 two hours drive from me. I think I need to do it.
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Venetir posted:I'm working with a 1989 C900 with some fun issues! We just swapped the old, cracked belts, reconnected the A/C compressor (missing two bolts!), and replaced a ton of leaking radiator hose. It's time for a tune-up, oil change, and I'm sure I need to replace the vacuum lines but haven't got to it yet; school just started and time is low at the moment. I'm having some issues I'm hoping you guys might be able to help with. My '94 9000 has recently started doing this exact same thing. Erratic idle at times, followed by hesitation under acceleration and the occasional check engine light. The odd thing is that 95% of the time it runs as smooth as anything. I've done some research and I've come to the exact same conclusions as you - ICV or vacuum hoses. To be honest I'm leaning towards the latter.. considering the age of our cars the hoses have probably badly disintegrated and could do with replacement anyway. This'll be my first move. But as Francis mentioned, it could also be the TPS or a bad MAF. So by the time I got in touch with the guy that was selling the complete set of 9000 Aero seats for $42, he had thrown out the rear bench because he was getting sick of looking at it and didn't think anyone wanted it.  Thankfully though, he had the wisdom to keep ahold of the front seats so not all was lost. I paid $8 for the pair. Yup, $8. Some of the seat adjustment switches and the seatbelt release buttons are broken, but with a good clean and condition the seats themselves should come up pretty nice. I now just need to either make them into lounge chairs / bar stools or buy another 9000 to put them in. 
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West SAAB Story posted:
Looks tidy. You're not worried about sludge?
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West SAAB Story posted:Rest in pieces, Dee-Dee. Sweet jesus, WSS! Echoing others, sorry to hear about the wreck, but it's good to also hear that you're alright. It's a good thing you were driving a Saab. I took a roll in one of my old 9000's which no doubt also saved my life at the time. This is why I will insist on driving Saabs for the rest of my days - I quite literally owe my life to them.
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 What could have been. This probably would have been on sale within a year if GM weren't dicks about it. I can't decided how much I like it yet.
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Welp, I impulse purchased another Aero today - a '96 Automatic this time. The only catch is it turns over but won't start. I went to see if I could get it running today. I tried the easy stuff - swapped the DIC, checked fuses, relays, changed the battery.. no luck, so it'll have to be towed home I think. Here's hoping it's just the fuel pump   Mordred posted:I am so sad to see SAAB go out of business though. It was pretty high on my list of cars to possible get. You may still be in luck. NEVS (who now own Saab) are planning to re-start production next year. It sounds like their primary focus will be on electric vehicles but supposedly they've mentioned that turbo petrol engines may be on the cards too. Let's hope it's true! That's a beautiful Alfa by the way. The 159 is a painfully good looking car and I can only imagine it'd be a hoot to own too. Sabmo fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Jun 16, 2013 |
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Red_October_7000 posted:Will it run off ether or something like that (in a pinch you can use Carb and Choke cleaner or the like if no starting fluid is to hand)? If it catches a bit with a lungfull of such aerosol, then you've got spark and at least some compression. Thanks for the tip! I got ahold of some starting fluid which produced a healthy splutter, so I'm more confident now that the fuel pump has packed up. As soon as I can track down a replacement and it stops raining I'll chuck it in and hopefully that'll be that. Touch wood. In the meantime I got it home and united with its slightly older sibling.  Le Mans blue is my favourite  I can't wait to give it a good wax and detail. e: fixed image links Sabmo fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Jun 16, 2013 |
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Steven posted:Hey y'all. I have a pretty much bone stock 1998 9000cse that I've been dd'ing for the past decade. It's getting a bit rusty on the passenger side A pillar, as well as underneath the windshield. I've decided to have it repaired... But I also want to have the whole thing repainted and get some performance stuff done too. Basically what I'm asking is what would you guys suggest having done to make a really kickass one of a kind 9000? Late to the party here, but I might be able to provide some suggestions - I have two 9000 Aeros, one slightly modded. How much are you wanting to spend on it? Is it a manual or an auto? And does it have a sunroof?
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