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Who Killed WCW?
Eric Bischoff
Hulk Hogan
Vince Russo
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Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
This thread is almost 12 years old lol

I watched the "reboot" Nitro in the OP and holy poo poo yeah that was really bad. I remember seeing that show when it aired but I guarantee I flipped channels back and forth between Nitro and Raw a bunch.

Did Russo and Bischoff seriously not understand or care that people want clean finishes to matches and not run-ins and interference in every single one? Like I get what they're trying to do. It's a way to further storylines without promos but it just hurt the overall product so much, in addition to all the other crazy poo poo they were doing like making shoot references that only the minority internet smark crowd understood.

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Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

The American Dream posted:

When David arquette won the title the people in my section all assumed that it wasn’t official and they would announce the reason why on nitro.

Just imagine thousands of people walking through the halls of a hockey arena trying to rationalize what they just saw.

That was the moment that me and my friends finally gave up on WCW. We were channel flippers so it's not like we were super invested in WCW at that point but after that we pretty much stopped watching WCW altogether except to see what was happening during Raw commercials.

I don't have anything against David Arquette and he's since trained up to be an actual wrestler but at the time it was just like "OK the WCW title is worthless now". And then sometime after that stupid incident Russo somehow made it even worse by putting the title on himself. He very clearly did not value titles at all and he was very clearly trying to push that idea onto the fans and obviously nobody bought it.

He never understood the business from the get-go. He knew edgy teen shock value poo poo and that's what got him noticed but after that all he knew was ramping things up until it jumped the shark and then he'd just keep doing the same thing without ever learning anything.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
LWO > nWo any day

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
Howard Finkel is the GOAT and completely ruined all ring announcers who came after for me. No offense to anyone in particular but nobody else has what he had.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
Disrespectful

smdh

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

That sucks :(

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
Remember when Vince Russo booked a Judy Bagwell on a pole match?

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
I'm never happy when it Reigns

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
Which show was that?

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Oh snap lmao

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Two Beans posted:

I feel so weird that I'm probably the only person in existence that popped for the fingerpoke when it happened. "My team" stopped fighting and became friends again.

I could be wrong but I actually think that's what they were going for.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

https://twitter.com/phosphor_glow/status/1464460014391803910

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Pope Corky the IX posted:

I miss Alex Wright.

:same:

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

edogawa rando posted:

With the benefit of hindsight, where would you say is the "point of no return" for WCW, where you could definitively point to and say "there was no way back from this one?"

WCW World Heavyweight Champion David Arquette

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Halloween Jack posted:

While the Fingerpoke was bullshit, WCW only became totally unwatchable as of the 10/18/99 Nitro.

Which one was that?

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

lmao

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
There were WWF episodes too. They were all bizarre train wrecks.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

lmao

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

edogawa rando posted:

Was that the one where Flair quit right before, taking the title with him because Jim Herd was being a fuckwit?

Yep! Known for being one of the worst PPV shows ever. The crowd chanted "We want Flair!" the whole show and poo poo all over it.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
WRESTLING RAPPER

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
lmao

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
Sid got into a fight with Arn Anderson at a hotel. The report I read said both guys had weapons, Arn stabbed Sid with scissors first, then Sid managed to take them away and stabbed Arn with them. Both guys ended up in the hospital but Arn's left arm had permanent tendon/ligament damage which is why if you've seen Arn since then he hasn't had full use of his left arm. Sid basically ended Arn's career and I don't even remember what the original verbal argument was about.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Sandman McMahon posted:

I think it had something to do with a squeegee

I think that was a different fight. Sid got into a lot of fights

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
Tank Abbott was hilarious. I hated him at first but I warmed up to him fast because of all his lovely promos. He was like a less unintelligible Scott Steiner.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
I've never seen that before and it owns super hard

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Cavauro posted:

how babout Talking Wall.

that's me



people make fun of this and rightly so but after all these years the tie blowing in the wind and the choke pose looks like something out of a tokusatsu show

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

I remember this pretty vividly. I was like "there is no way in hell Goldberg is winning on free TV. WCW would never do that" and then it happened and I marked out super hard. And that was probably the last really good decision WCW ever made

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
More like oldkayfabeless

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

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Nap Ghost
My friends and I always called them "K Roni K" and we will never stop

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
weed lol

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

vince sometimes personally writes wrestler promos and you can really tell because of how bizarre they are it rules lol roman reigns had to say some weird poo poo on live tv because of vince writing his promos lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRFWb4Ia3r0

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Jonny Nox posted:

Ok (and appropriate page for this question) people keep saying Moolah pimped out her students.

Could someone please tell me this is metaphorical.

Every single terrible thing you've ever read about Moolah is 100% true. She's one of the worst human beings ever

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Mr Hootington posted:

I don't know who that is

Do you seriously not know who The Great Muta is?

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Sandman McMahon posted:

Vader in WWF is such fuckin bullshit. Probably the worst thing Vince McMahkn has ever done.

I feel like the murder and rape cover ups were worse

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Shard posted:

I never heard that. What was WWE pissed off about exactly?

They put on a banger ECW style match that made all the WWE wrestlers look bad

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
"That's not fair to Flair" was one of my favorite Heenan things ever. He did it for weeks if not months and it made my stupid kid self laugh every time. Heenan was the best

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

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Nap Ghost
The Brood theme is the best wrestling theme ever

Unironically

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

edogawa rando posted:

Hwaaaa
Hee-rab
Herab
Hwaa
Hee-rab
Herab
Bi-bim-bim-bimbim
Hwaa
Hwaa
Bi bim-bim-bimbim
Bi bim-bim-bimbim
BWAAAAAAB
BI-BIM-BIM-BIMBIM
BWAAAAAAB
BI-BIM-BIM-BIMBIM

That's my impression of the Brood theme song.

Yeah those are the lyrics

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Ganso Bomb posted:

I remember as teenagers my friends and I trying to decipher the whispering at the beginning thinking it held some secret message

We did that too!

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Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
I think it was Abdullah the Butcher that Foley talked about in one of his early books where Foley and his wife and Abdullah drove like 3 hours to a show and Abdullah was so polite around women that he later admitted to Foley that he held in a fart the entire car trip

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