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Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Josh Wow posted:

student loan stuff

I wouldn't pay them with savings. You can deduct student loan interest from your taxes, so even the 6.8% rate is decent. Credit card rates can change. If you had a very large savings stockpile, I'd maybe say differently, but IMO the risk isn't worth it.

I think your current policy of throwing as much extra money as you have at the 6.8% loans is smart. After you finish with those, I'd beef your emergency fund up, and only then work on paying the low rates off. I mean, 2.48% is really cheap money (and as a student about to pick up some loans closer to your 6.8% ones, I'm jealous).

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Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Bgwin posted:

Looking for some general thoughts on my financial situation and help with choosing a new credit card.

Also this summer I plan on buying a 2006-2008 Jeep so I'll be taking on a car payment.

Look into PenFed. They have a very good cash rewards card (not their new travel rewards AmEx, just the normal Visa rewards.

Also, with as much money as you make, and as little living expenses as you have (and with your savings), I'd really discourage you from taking a car loan. Save up and pay in cash.

Grumpwagon fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Mar 2, 2010

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

illamint posted:

My question is this: should I bother applying for a 0% APR card to balance transfer this debt, especially the Chase debt, to?

You pay $22.50 on the Chase debt per month and $10.67 per month on the Schwab card. 5 months of interest is $165.85. Assuming you pay the cards off pretty quickly, lets round it off to $200.

If you can find a 0% balance transfer deal, assuming a 3% fee (pretty standard), you'd pay ~$91 for the balance transfer. You'd save around $100 for doing a transfer.

$100 isn't nothing, obviously, but I'd concentrate on reigning in your spending first. If you want to do the balance transfer, make sure to consider any annual fees, and make sure it's a decent card. No sense getting an inquiry and a new account (and lowering your average age of accounts) unless it's a good card you'll use afterwards.

What I'm trying to say here is, considering everything, I don't think it's worth it for you to open a new card, unless you get lucky and stumble on to a great card with a 0% offer, which doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

nbzl posted:

I noticed that Vanguard has a $3000 minimum for most of its investments. Is this true for all brokerages?

Vanguard STAR fund has a $1000 minimum.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Adahn the nameless posted:

Is it worth getting the Amazon.com rewards card if I make a lot of purchases off there? I have no debt and pay my credit card off every month.

I have it and enjoy it. 3 points per dollar at Amazon, 2 points per dollar at restaurants.

2500 points gets you a $25 gift card to Amazon.

EDIT: 2500/3 is $833.33, meaning you have to spend $833 to get $25. My normal penfed card gets me 1%, or $8.33. So the card is effectively 3% cash back at Amazon (am I doing this math right?). If you think that's worth it, go for it.

Grumpwagon fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jun 15, 2010

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

FISHMANPET posted:

I'm well aware I've hosed this up, I'm just wondering if I have any recourse beyond just paying it off and never dealing with Dell Financial again.

Recourse generally implies you were wronged.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Themagicmoogle posted:

Quick question: I have a car that I currently owe about 9.7k on at 8.9% interest. The minimum payments are about 220 bucks a month, but I usually pay about 350. I have no other credit cards or anything else. I would like to buy a house in a couple years, and I was just wondering if I should save that extra money that I'm paying extra on the car, or should I sock it away for a bigger down payment?

9% interest is fairly high, I'd keep doing what you're doing.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Engineer Lenk posted:

Yeah, Quicken can do all of this (calendar view, categories, present value), it will automatically download and categorize from bank and credit card info, and will remember categories if you change it on one purchase. It'll interface with TurboTax if you have your paycheck and other taxes set up correctly as well, I think. I like the budget comparison report, but there are a ton of other reports it can generate as well.

I use and like Quicken, but no summary of it would be complete without at least mentioning that it's also the buggiest piece of software that I own.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Pillowpants posted:

Since I'm not on my computer, I'll give you some info I can remember.

Most goons spend over $200 a month going out to eat. Most goons also spend around $150 on their cell phones, and have over 5 Credit cards.

4-5% of goons are living a life where overdraft seems to come regular, and half a dozen goons have debt where minimum payments exceed $2500 (and another half a dozen pay rent of around that much)

You have to remember that you're not dealing with a proper sample of goons. Most people looking for a budget are unhappy with their financial situation in some way, so while I'm sure you have a decent amount of well-off customers, understand that you also will have more people with financial problems than the average.

(Sorry about the tangent, I have been analyzing political polls for a class)

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

illamint posted:

Parents are probably worse off than me, but between other family members I could probably come up with something. Certainly not for more than a month or twos worth of expenses, though, hence the concern. I think I'll do what Dead Pressed said and work towards having $1000 on hand, and then I'll go from there. I've got a 0% balance transfer offer from Citi that can let me consolidate my higher-interest cards into one, so I can take what I would've been paying on those and put it towards some savings.

Make sure it doesn't have a balance transfer fee if you do choose to do that. Most do now.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Mexican Radio posted:

salary: 90k/year
assets: 100k in savings/401k

I've been denied for two unsecured credit cards in the past 6 months.

Big banks are stupid.

As stated before, you really have 2 options. If you like Chase, or need to stay with them, get a secured card. If you don't like Chase, join a credit union or smaller bank, and they'll be happy to give you a card.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Gustavington posted:

I recently tried to open online savings and checking accounts at Ally bank, and was denied based on 'unfavorable credit history'. In response i looked for methods of increasing my credit score faster, and the most reasonable option seemed to be opening a credit card. However, despite applying for a secured credit card designed for rebuilding credit, I was denied once again.

Are you sure it was a credit score problem? Usually with checking/savings accounts they don't pull a credit report, just chexsystems.

Go to annualcreditreport.com and get a copy of your reports. See what's bad on there, and we'll be able to be more helpful.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Zeta Taskforce posted:

Satellite, what if you stopped paying on your payday loans? I'm always in favor of people paying their debt if they can, but you can't. You will need to close down the account that you gave them access to, have your direct deposit go elsewhere and then they will threaten you with everything. They can't do anything immediately but you will need to save up the money to settle with them at some future date.

I'm not saying this is a bad idea, but didn't he say they were only $300ish each? That seems like something he'd be able to knock out in a couple of months, even with that crazy rent. If he decided to ride the bus for a while, that would save more money on gas, and it might be good motivation too.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

FrozenVent posted:

If I have a corporate credit card, does it have an impact on my credit score?

Don't really care about my score, just curious.

Extremely unlikely, and if it does, someone probably screwed up.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Duckman2008 posted:

I'm in the boat of looking for a better rate for savings/money market account.

Currently I have Bank of America, and between my wife and I we have $7000ish in savings (shooting to get it up to am even 10 by end of the year). BoA said their savings would only fo 0.04%. I'm pretty certain I can do better. I live in Philly, just curious if anyone here has had luck with a specific bank or credit union (ill be looking at both of course).


I already have 401K and Roth accounts setup, this just making the most of our emergency fund.

Any reason you wouldn't consider an online bank? I use ally (for all of my banking, actually), and it seems pretty decent. No one has good interest rates right now, but they're in the high .X%, rather than the low .0X% range.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Zeta Taskforce posted:

But like I said, there is no law that says you don't owe the money, no law that says they can't collect on it, no law that says they can't sue you.

I totally agree with the gist of your post, but I want to make one small correction to it, because I've heard you say this a couple of times. Once the 7 year statute expires, any lawsuits in progress or new lawsuits can and will be dismissed for being beyond the statute. All other collection activities can continue as usual though.

Source: I was a credit card debt collector for 4 years.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Zeta Taskforce posted:

Thanks! I learned something today.

You get what I'm saying though, and the question comes up all the time as to why one should pay a 5, or a 7 year old collection account. How would you answer that question? In your experience as someone who was on the inside, do you ever see these old accounts biting people?

I didn't collect on super old accounts, so I don't really feel qualified to answer that. I think, in general, your advice has been good, I just wanted to correct that one small thing.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Popete posted:

Is it cool to post my current financial plan in this thread for critique?

Pretty sure, yeah. If it ends up being too complicated, we'll just ask you to make a thread. No harm starting here though.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Bisty Q. posted:

Just use Schwab.

http://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/banking_lending/checking_account

It's the best checking account there is.

I'd put ally right up there with it. No fees, they refund ATM fees, interest checking (slightly higher than Schwab, but still very low .4% apr) and savings. Good smartphone app, and a very decent customer service department.

I've been very happy there.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Hughmoris posted:

Is there anything wrong with opening multiple savings account with the same bank? I have navy federal with a checking and saving account. I want to open another savings account so I have one for emergency funds and one for misc such as trips and big purchases etc.

Go right ahead. The only reason not to is if there is some sort of fee charged by the bank/credit union.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Dik Hz posted:

The difference between the two plans' premiums is ~$2k/year. There is literally no way the non-HSA plan would ever come out ahead, even ignoring all the fabulous tax advantages of the HSA.

The only way I could see it is if the PPO has a $1500 FAMILY deductible, and the HSA has a $2500 INDIVIDUAL deductible.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Maybe this is better suited to the student loan thread, but I'm going to try here first.

I'm 27. I just graduated and got a good job. I want help on prioritizing what I'm paying off.

The Good: I have $1500-$2000 extra a month to put towards debt payoff/savings, after 401k, health ins, and living costs. I worked for a while before going to school, so I have ~$30k in retirement funds. I have fairly low living expenses, and good job stability/potential for advancement (tuyop proves no job is perfectly stable of course, but I'm in a small midsized company who is hiring in my area, and our revenue is growing 20%/year, selling a product to huge companies/government, and I have good initial performance reviews).

The Bad: I have ~$35k in (government) student loans at 6.8%, and an additional ~$7k on credit cards at 9.99% and 11.49% (long story, but because I worked before going to school, I was eligible for less aid than expected, so ran through my savings more quickly. The $7k is mostly not stupid crap, but that doesn't make me feel any better about having credit card debt).

The Question: I have about $2k of uncapitalized interest on the student loans, which capitalizes in February, when the payments start coming due. Would it be worth knocking out that $2k next month, despite it's lower interest rate, to stop it from capitalizing, or should I keep paying on the credit cards?




More speculatively, people mentioning that the government 401(k) limit is so much higher for matching than for employee compensation has got me thinking, has anyone ever negotiated a raise all or mostly as increased 401(k) matching? I'm pretty interested in FI, and I make enough to easily cover my expenses. Doesn't the company get to contribute pre-tax money as well? Seems like a win-win.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Dik Hz posted:

Why does it matter if your interest gets capitalized?

That's a good question. I guess I read somewhere that it's a good idea to pay it, but I can't say I could tell you why.

Dik Hz posted:

If your company uses an untested 401(k) match structure, they cannot modify it for anyone.

I don't know what this means. I tried googling "untested 401(k) match structure" and that didn't help. Would you mind explaining?

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Bisty Q. posted:

Google "Safe Harbor 401(k)" and you'll get the details; basically most companies that match don't match out of the goodness of their hearts, they do it because that way they can offer benefits to everyone without having to deal with the consequences that would arise in a non-safe-harbor plan if the people at the top got more benefit than the people at the bottom.

Thanks! That was very informative.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Splendiferous posted:

I have a unique credit score situation that I'd like some advice on.

My brother is completing his fellowship to be a cardiologist in the next few years. My parents really hosed up paying off his loans and because they missed like four months of payments (without even knowing about it) my brother's credit score is absolute poo poo. Obviously, my parents' credit score is poo poo anyways.

It's weird because my brother has never missed a payment on any of his own credit cards, and he will be making more than 250k a year pretty soon. My parents just kind of dropped the ball on completing some loan payments. My brother is now worried that he won't be able to buy a house or anything like that for seven years.

I can provide more information if needed, but goons, is there anything that can be done? Should he get a lawyer to explain the situation, ie, that it really wasnt his fault the payments were missed? Or does he really have to wait several years for his credit score to fix itself? I would truly appreciate any advice, because I care deeply about him and want to help.

File this under: not a problem. Recency matters a ton, so he won't have to wait 7 years. By the time he saves for a down payment (even with a $250k salary), the loans will be old enough that it won't be a problem.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Mint questions: I switched main checking accounts a few months back. Is there a way in Mint to hide an old account without hiding the old transactions in the trends window?

Also, the account has a phantom $100 in it. I can live with that, but I'd like to fix it if I can.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Harry posted:

Under account options there's a closed option.

Awesome, thanks! Not sure how I missed it.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

SiGmA_X posted:

DarkJC - I have a question about your post. When you say "balance in full" do you mean "statement balance" or entire balance on account? I'm not about to learn on my Chase rewards card (holy hell 22.24% IIRC!!) and I pay it off in full multiple times a month, but I'm curious. I haven't read the fine print regarding interest, as I intended to pay it off multiple times a month when I signed up.

Yeah, a lot of people over-complicate this (not necessarily you, I understand there are other reasons to pay multiple times a month, whether that be to spend over the credit limit, or for budgetary reasons, or whatever).

Basically, when you get your new statement, pay the statement due balance by the statement due date, and you will never have problems. (and just to get another frequently asked question out of the way..) The balance at the time of the statement will be reported to the credit bureau. As of the last few years, cards will also frequently report the last payment, so spending up to your limit and paying it off every month is much less of a concern than it used to be (YMMV, computers are stupid, etc).

FizFashizzle posted:

Last week I finally set up a roth IRA with Vanguard. I nearly had a panic attack when I put the money into a growth fund.

Is this normal for new investors.?

I'd very seriously consider investing in the appropriate target retirement account, setting up an automatic transfer, then never looking at the vanguard website ever again (well, once a year for tax forms).

Grumpwagon fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Feb 8, 2014

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

I have a smallish amount of money (not sure of the exact balance, but more than $5.5k, less than $11k) in a regular, non-tax advantaged account that was a gift. I'd like to add that to my own IRA accounts at vanguard before April, so I can roll it all over at once, since it's definitely more than 1 year's contribution max. I have both a Roth IRA and a rollover IRA already established there.

Since this money has already been taxed, I could roll it directly into a Roth, correct? Would I want to do that? If I understand correctly, rolling it in to a traditional IRA would allow me to deduct that income, correct? Lastly, as an option I just thought of now, I have scarily close to $40k in government student loans, mostly at 6.8%. I think I can pay them off in 3 years without this money, and it seems like a bad idea to pay off loans with retirement money, even if that money isn't actually in a retirement account. I suppose the decision is pretty highly dependent on my situation, so I'll summarize.

I have been at my first decently paying job for ~6 months, with good prospects for future employment/raises (not included in my payoff calculations). My understanding of Roth vs traditional is that if I put it in a traditional account, I could deduct that income. However, my 2013 taxable income was already very low (~$7k), because of only working part of the year, combined with student expenses/tax credits, and other deductions/credits. I'm not crazy ballin', but my taxable income will be much higher in 2014, and likely higher again in 2015. I was not able to save/invest much while I was in school, but now I intend to save at least $20k a year, after taxes. MMM-style early retirement is very attractive to me, so I might need some way of accessing retirement funds in 15 years or so, when I will be well under 65.

TL;DR: I guess typing this out has mostly worked out what to do, so I'm primarily asking to verify my assumptions (If I can invest this money, tax/penalty free in a Roth, or IRA would lower my taxable income). Unless someone has a reason this is a terrible idea, I'll probably put $5.5k in a Roth now for the 2013 contribution, then the remainder to either student loans, or Roth (or maybe a traditional to lower my 2014 taxes, but I have a 401k, so this seems redundant).

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

This might be better for the tax thread or the long term investment thread, but I'm not sure which, so I'll start here.

I'd like to open an IRA for a family member (not a spouse/child), and provide the money to get to the minimum amount for the funds ($1500). I understand that I can gift someone that money without tax implications. But I'd like this to count as an IRA contribution for them, and not me. For simplicity, I'd like to not be on the account at all, but that isn't super important.

If I call up Vanguard or whoever with the person's info/SSN, is this something that can be done, or am I going to have to get them more involved?

Somewhat related: I've been told my job keeps track of my 401(k) contributions and will stop taking money if it will cause me to go over the yearly max. Are they just keeping track of my contributions directly, or is there somewhere I could look up my contributed amount for the year? How does that work in the (admittedly rare) situation where someone works 2 jobs with 401(k)s (or less rare, contributes to 2 IRAs with 2 different brokerages)? My guess is that you just keep track of it, but I'm curious if there's a way for your brokerage to know. Before anyone asks, I'm aware there are tax implications for over contributions, and I'm not planning on doing it, just curious.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

baquerd posted:

First, they need to have earned income, or their spouse does if the file jointly. I don't think you're going to have much luck putting the money in on their behalf - you'll want to give the money to them and have them invest it. It's certainly the most hassle-free way of doing this. Is there some reason you don't want to just do that?


It should be on your paystub. When you have two jobs, you go over the limit and you have to ask one of them to give the excess contributions back and you will pay additional taxes on the earnings. If you don't take out the contributions, you'll pay full taxes on them, and then pay taxes on them again when you eventually withdraw them so it's a really bad idea.

It's a gift, just hoping to keep it a surprise. Oh well, not a big deal.

Thanks for the advice!

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

I posted about this last tax time, and never did anything with it for no good reason, so I'm back with one more question. Firstly, a quick recap.

Grumpwagon posted:

I have a smallish amount of money (not sure of the exact balance, but more than $5.5k, less than $11k) in a regular, non-tax advantaged account that was a gift. I'd like to add that to my own IRA accounts at vanguard before April, so I can roll it all over at once, since it's definitely more than 1 year's contribution max. I have both a Roth IRA and a rollover IRA already established there.

Obviously, the ship has sailed on moving it all in one go, but I'd like to move at least a chunk of it. I don't know anything about investment taxes, so this is probably a stupid question. If I were to do this (sell $5.5k from this non-tax advantaged account, contribute it to my vanguard Roth), would I have to pay any capital gains taxes or anything like that? I vaguely recall there is a capital gains exemption to some amount of money far more than I have, but quick googling isn't turning that up. I'd like to move it to vanguard from where it is now (non-vanguard), but if it matters, the fund it is in now isn't too bad. I could probably just call the current place up and start an IRA with them if that would allow the funds to be moved without selling.

Most of this money was contributed well over a year ago, but a small amount of it (~$1000?) was contributed this year.

Thoughts? Am I overthinking this?

Grumpwagon fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Aug 24, 2014

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Manic Mongoose posted:

Hello there I need some advice to see how things are going and whether I should be changing it up. My main recurring expense is 16k left in student loans. up to 4 months ago I had it set as a minimum payment and then realized the interest just killed it. Now for the past months I've been contributing 1K a month towards paying it off and so far its been going well. I have 20k in savings and the loan payment never comes from my savings. I was wondering if I should use some of those savings to more aggressively pay off the loan. I'm fine as is just taking 1k from my pay every month but have just been anxious because it feels like my savings aren't even savings with this debt hanging over my head.

Depends on the rate and your confidence in the stability of your job/appetite for risk, but I'd probably just leave it. Student loans are usually pretty low interest, and cash is worth having. If you wanted to pay a chunk off (~$10k?), you could do that, but I wouldn't want to nearly drain my savings to pay it completely off. Again, depends on the interest though.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Meta Ridley posted:

After nearly 3 years of rebuilding my finances, tomorrow I will pay off my previously maxed out $8200 credit card, and for the first time in my life will have a positive net worth. I have repaired my credit from the low 500s to mid 660.

Unfortunately, my car died this morning, and I got sued by a CA for $3500 for alleged medical debt :confuoot:

I am considering my options.

I have a promotional offer for a 0% Balance Transfer for 12 months, with a 4% up-front fee, on the credit card with a (now) $10,000 credit limit. I think I may have to dip into this :( I should be able to pay it off within 12 months however before it goes to standard BT rates (like 21%).

The collection agency suing me is relentless, constantly filing all kinds of legal motions I do not understand and have to defend myself from. They actually have no evidence of Standing, any bill of sale, etc, but I feel I will likely lose the case due to the way they are fighting me.

My car overheated, and it would cost >$1500 to repair which is about what it is worth.

My surplus income is about $1200/month.

1. If I continue fighting the legal action against me, and lose, I will end up with a $3500+ judgment against me. I would pay this off immediately using a loan from my CC, but what kind of credit impact would a Judgment (paid) have? Would it destroy my credit rating for another 3+ years? Would it be better to settle-in-full with them right now and not risk a judgment, if I am looking to buying a house in the next year or two? The reason I do NOT want to settle is because they have not provided any evidence that they bought this debt, or are assigned this debt, and the debt is actually listed with an entirely different collection agency, as it has passed through many JDBs. I feel it is possible I can be sued again for the same debt by a different agency, if it turns out this one has no standing to collect it.


2. Car. Most likely I will need to buy one. My options are to get another ~$3000 car (such as a Honda or Toyota) and hope it is reliable, or to use $3000-4000 toward a Down payment on a newer car. I feel some old $3000 Civic is the better option, since my car insurance rate would skyrocket if I had to get full coverage. Plus I don't really want (but can afford) a car payment. On the other hand, I would really like a car more likely to last 5+ years. And honestly I miss driving a nicer car with things like air conditioning.

3. Taking out an extra $2000, to put it into an IRA that counts toward Y2014. Yes it may not be the best time to invest, however it would increase my tax return by $500 ($300 for 15% taxation, $200 for Savers Credit which I should qualify for, being married). I feel 4% interest for a 25% return would make sense.

If you truly have $1200 surplus income every month, why did it take 3 years to pay off $8200? Is that a new thing? If not, get a budget, track your expenses to figure out where that money is going. If it's a new thing, and sustainable, all of these problems will be easy to take care of.

1. Show up to your court date, you will probably get the case dismissed. If not, it's not the end of the world. There's a debt collection thread around somewhere, look there for some good advice.

2. Here's the car buying advice thread. Honda/Toyota make good cars in the 3-5k range, but everyone knows that, so you pay more for the name. Ask there for some alternate model suggestions (hint, look at DOHC Focuses).

3. Don't invest money from your credit card. Things can go wrong too easily. It sucks losing out on that credit, but you'll be able to invest more when you are actually investing your own money. If you absolutely must do this, it would be better to invest your surplus $1200/mo, and just pay a couple of minimum payments on your 0% card, then pay the card off later, but even that opens up a lot of possibilities for things to go wrong.

Grumpwagon fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Sep 12, 2014

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Cross posting from the budget thread:

YNAB is on steam sale for $15 until 10pm PST today (1/31)

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

spinst posted:

Does anyone use Ally for their checking account?

I will be moving this summer, and my new city will only have one branch of the bank I currently use (US Bank) and it will be on the other side of town from where I will be working and probably living…

I opened an Ally savings account, and so long as that goes smoothly for the next six months, I was thinking of using a checking account with them as well.

Has everyone had positive experiences?

I use Ally for checking and savings. They're great. Excellent customer service, (relatively) good interest savings, they refund all ATM fees. There's no way to deposit cash, so if that's a problem, you'll need a secondary bank, but they've been great for me. I used ING Direct before, and they were fine, but Ally has been better.

Rick Rickshaw posted:

Since lines of credit exist, I don't understand why emergency funds exist for people who have these magical lines of credit.

People say "Oh, well, the bank can revoke your line of credit whenever it wants".

When has this ever happened?! I'd rather keep that $10k invested and have it turn into $80k after 30 years. Unless someone gives me a good reason not to - one that I've never seen before.

I think some people hold too much cash for their emergency funds, but I don't think the right thing to do is to rely on credit completely for it.

On top of the "the plumber doesn't take credit" type emergencies, I worked for a credit card processing company during the financial crisis. We lowered credit lines and closed cards en masse when poo poo started to go down. A high credit score was some insulation from that, but if we noticed people's balances jumping irregularly, we'd close regardless of score.

Grumpwagon fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Jan 12, 2015

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Devian666 posted:

Cash is king applies when things get bad. An emergency fund which is actually a sum of money rather than credit is generally good for new comers to BFC. I look at the number of people who have no money to pay for their car breaking down or some other not that uncommon expense in the various threads, and you wouldn't want to get a cash advance off a credit card when you need money.


When I got my first full time job I consolidated my debts through my bank by way of a short term loan. Your bank will have pre-assessed your risk and may (or may not) give a reasonable interest rate. Credit unions and P2P lending are popular for getting competitive interest rates though.

Not sure why you're quoting me here, I agree with you, and that was the point I was making too. My only additional point was that I have seen people with $30k-$50k emergency funds, and that seems excessive to me.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Engineer Lenk posted:

30k for 6 months of expenses isn't completely out of line for some areas and even $50k sounds a little low for a high-earning single-income family of 4+.

Yeah. I'll grant you $30k. I'm willing to admit I'm wrong here, it's just hard to think about that as a pretty frugal renter with no kids in a fairly low to moderate cost of living area. Still, $50k seems like too much, without extenuating circumstances, but I guess it's pretty situational.

I suppose it is a pretty personal choice. If that person with a $75k emergency fund feels better for having it, that's fine by me (and considering he/she is maxing tax advantaged accounts with money for a 75k emergency fund left over, they don't need my advice anyway). I just don't think we should advise people to have that much, unless they know they're high risk for job loss, or have a chronic illness, or whatever.

Grumpwagon fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jan 12, 2015

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

james1844 posted:

Ally is the old GMAC. They were pne of the companies that was on the verge of going under and needed to take TARP funds. I would be very, very careful about putting my money in that bank until you've reviewed their management structure and are satisfied that the people who caused the near-bankruptcy are no long there.

Here is a link to a GAO paper on the subject.

http://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41846.pdf

This is of course a non-issue until you have $250k in assets in the bank, since deposits are insured.

EDIT: I suppose you could make a moral case for not wanting to support a company that was ran into the ground, and I can support that.

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Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Its not going to hurt to get your limit increased, but it definitely has large diminishing returns. I mean, if you have 1 card with a $1000 limit, getting that to $5000 will make a huge difference. If you have 5 cards with limits totaling $40000 and you end up with a $50000 limit, you're probably talking about a single digit score change, if at all. Even $20k to $25k is not that impactful.

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