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Does BigLaw ever get better? 2nd year and Im tired.
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Mar 14, 2016 05:03
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nm posted:Yes, when you use that job on your resume to get a sweet government job and rediscover weekends. (Also, loans gone in 10 years.) The only point of big law is loans gone in like 3 years. this $3000 a month better be doing something.
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Mar 14, 2016 05:44
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nm posted:Sanity is worth something. When I started law school, I did it with the promise of a job in a minor local governmental office. I was seduced, and regret my decision every single day. I don't even get the cool leased car because of loans, and drive an 11 year old toyota 
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Mar 14, 2016 06:08
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evilweasel posted:I dont really get stressed out easily and it usually isnt hard to figure out who is competent and who to give the horrible tasks that require no thought to that they cant gently caress up. All tasks can be hosed up.
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Mar 16, 2016 04:31
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Who knew there were so many litigators in the world -- all binders and paperwork. For transactional work, I have almost no paper anything -- the only time I ever have paper copies is because the partner prints out the doc and puts in hand marks. Young partners use track changes though because it's 2016.
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Mar 17, 2016 04:41
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Arcturas posted:Do people not know how to use metadata scrubbers? There's approximately one million different apps and plugins for Word, Adobe's apps, and Outlook that will auto-scrub everything going outside your firm's e-mail domain. Most of them link in to your DMS as well. Yeah -- my firm has the meta data scrubber pop up automatically before any document goes to an external address. You have to stop and think for a second whether you want it scrubbed or want to retain the meta data.
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Mar 18, 2016 04:48
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So maybe a recommendation? I had a family friend ask me today for an attorney that can help them through an identity theft situation. I am a transactional lawyer so not any help at all. This would be in Houston/East Texas.
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Mar 27, 2016 04:23
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When do you get to leave big law for a sweet 9-6 $250k in house job? 4 years or so?
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Sep 18, 2016 00:38
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nm posted:Fun fact: I've billed 52 hours so far this week (Sun - Wed)...I billed 5 today.
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Sep 22, 2016 00:45
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RFX posted:10 court days for trial - nearly 2 full weeks (dark on Mondays) and we've been in jury selection + trial since Tuesday. In House life is the only way.
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Oct 9, 2016 18:59
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This was my Con Law prof http://news3lv.com/news/local/unlv-law-professor-in-critical-condition-after-brutal-attack-in-henderson
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Oct 17, 2016 04:08
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CaptainScraps posted:Nope, it was a former cop turned judge up in Denton County. He started flipping through our 80 page divorce decree and I told him "Judge, it's 80 pages, do you think we forgot anything?" "Point taken, counselor." I went to UHLC, I work in big law, I don't exercise, I don't eat right, I work 100 hours a week and I see my family that lives in the same city as me less than my sibling that has to fly here to see them. Basically tell him he's better off for it. Also - it's pretty impossible to break into big-law as a junior out of a poo poo tier school like UH if not through the OCI process.
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Dec 5, 2016 06:56
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Point: I paid off my law school loans today. It took 3 years. Counterpoint - 900 hours billed in Q4 (kill me).
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Jan 3, 2017 06:40
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JohnCompany posted:Congrats! Drinks to both celebrate and forget! As soon as I find a good one. I just missed the holy grail. At the beginning of December, the Astros published an opening for AGC of my hometown baseball team, I didn't find out about it until yesterday, the position was filled and the ad pulled down on Dec. 30. Here I am still billin' hours. Sab0921 fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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Jan 5, 2017 04:42
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Signed a deal last week, didn't work at all last weekend, billed an hour today. Life is good, maybe this profession isn't so bad after all....
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Jan 18, 2017 04:54
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For those that made the transition from Big Law to In-House (or even better, out of law to a business role), how did you actually do it? I get dozens of emails and calls each month about lateralling to other firms, but have never once heard from a recruiter regarding an in-house position. I'm completely ignorant on the subject of how to make the transition. Our clients are mostly PE, so transitioning to a client is near impossible as their in-house lawyers are essentially SEC compliance and fund formation/maintenance and I know absolutely nothing about either of those fields (and they sound relatively boring). So for those who have made the switch, how did you do it? how did you find your job? how did your comp structure change (was it drastic?) and am I just looking at a grass is greener situation where in house will just be more of the same poo poo? It's a little early for me to be thinking of it as I'm still a 3rd year associate (conventional wisdom says the sweet spot is years 5-6 for the the transition), but I need to start looking forward at this point, I'm not sure I can stomach the job day in and day out without some sort of future goal away from the firm.
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Mar 19, 2017 19:31
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HiddenReplaced posted:This is why you aren't getting calls about in-house jobs. As a midlevel / senior associate I get contacted about in-house gigs pretty regularly. Yeah - there is always the hope of joining a portfolio company with sweet incentive equity, but those jobs are very few and far between.
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Mar 20, 2017 04:01
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Kimsemus posted:I'm finishing my 1L year, and landed an internship at the U.S. State Department, I wonder how lucky I got versus how much already having a security clearance helped. My career services office said it was a 11 out of 10 position since I want to go back to working for the fed anyway. A few of my classmates are pretty salty about it, so I don't know. V10 or bust homie. No prestige in serving your country - Weil will be much better equipped to deploy your unique talents in service of sophisticated clients.
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Mar 21, 2017 04:26
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I take my first vacation in three years and I get the loving flu coming home. And I got a flu shot too. WTF do you do that you've had no time off in three years? My firm lets us free a few times a year.
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Apr 11, 2017 02:27
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Phil Moscowitz posted:The difference between "vacations" and "trips" is very real. For awhile, I considered weekends that weren't spent billing vacations.
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Apr 11, 2017 04:32
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A few days/pages late, but this guy has all the traits needed to be a good lawyer. Dead inside, eyes that say "my kids hate me", mild sociopathy, obsession with inane details, smug self satisfaction (the INTELLECTUAL RIGOR OF CONTRACT DRAFTING). Basically this dude is the only good lawyer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0XWSBAe-1U&t=77s
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Apr 28, 2017 06:27
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The most law school thing ever written: https://www.wsj.com/articles/move-over-moot-court-budding-deal-lawyers-get-their-own-competition-1489496400 quote:Elizabeth Roberts, a 24-year-old student at University of Southern California Gould School of Law, said she initially wanted to work after graduating with children going through the family-court system. Then she learned more about business and finance, including through the deal competition, and was hooked.
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Apr 28, 2017 14:06
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The picture might be even better - I hate these guys already. http://imgur.com/a/kdL5r Sab0921 fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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Apr 28, 2017 16:48
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Old guy in the corner suite This is....my life I guess I don't cite things
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Apr 28, 2017 21:40
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mastershakeman posted:im surrounded by horrible bitter lawyers intent on being complete assholes to everyone else that's "beneath" them and then their animosity is skyrocketing as their poor planning backfires on them and god I just don't want to work anywhere ever again Get your initials embroidered on your cuff like a decent member of society.
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Apr 29, 2017 02:30
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:I think the most important thing I learned in my first year in law school is that I don't want to be a loving lawyer You'll never know the prestige of a v10 though? Is life even worth living without that?
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Apr 30, 2017 18:51
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:[I'll won't] experience the joy of making a bunch of money that I never have a chance to spend because I'm spending 80 hours a week doing busy work for assholes and then get fired after 10 years Look - I don't know how many times I have to say this, but you really need to focus on your attention to detail. Our clients don't pay top dollar for you to make rookie mistakes like that. It's the easiest way to find yourself on the outside here. We want nothing more than for you to succeed, but at some point, we'll have to discuss whether this is really the right career choice for you. Thanks - please revise and turn the comment with my revisions in the next hour or so.
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Apr 30, 2017 21:14
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Non Serviam posted:It's ok if you don't like the job, and if you think it's not a wise economic decision to study this. There are many valid reasons to drop out or to choose a different career. Having said that, you can shove your condescension up your rear end. The fact that you couldn't hack first year of law school shouldn't fill you with so much undeserved pride. hahahahahha - I hope this is real.
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May 1, 2017 14:42
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:"Holy poo poo, I'm so glad I'm free from the life I was ill-suited for that was slowly killing me. If only I had listened" Nah - that dude sucks, don't apologize. You made the right decision, shouldn't be embarrassed and coming to this realization at a young age shows a high level of self-awareness that will serve you well. Most of us didn't come to the conclusion that being a lawyer is incompatible with living a healthy and fulfilling life until it is much too late. I hope you crush it in the future and am sincerely jealous that you don't have to be a lawyer.
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May 1, 2017 22:57
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Lotta advice here for the summer associates. It's all dumb - they will give you an offer if you do these two things: 1) Do your work on time (meet internal deadlines) and try a little bit. 2) Don't get wasted at summer events Done - you have a job.
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May 6, 2017 14:01
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Phil Moscowitz posted:You posted this from work didn't you The correct answer is big law is stupid and summer associates should do other, cooler poo poo.
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May 6, 2017 15:48
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SlyFrog posted:Except we have non-offered numerous summer associates who did those two things, but were otherwise annoying. We have only non-offered in my brief time for those two things. But, I'm a third year and new to this, so YMMV. However, I have a distinct preference for older summer associates (likely not the ones you describe though). You have to train "K through JDs" how to be a lawyer and also how to have a job. It's very annoying.
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May 6, 2017 15:48
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:The concept of K through JD really bothers me, even though that's almost what I did. One of our K through JDs bought a $100k+ sports car. When the revolution comes, he will be guillotined.
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May 6, 2017 16:40
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Vox Nihili posted:My friend was a SA at a major firm and her firm just decided at some point that they didn't need half of their summers, so she got cut with a good review. It's not 2010 anymore, this kind of thing doesn't happen today.
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May 7, 2017 07:01
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I didn't even know there were firms in existence that offer 401(k) match. Consider my eyes opened. I've worked at two places - v100 and v10 - both with no match for anything but HSA.
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May 11, 2017 22:03
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Flutieflakes017 posted:Sitting at graduation. Speakers have been going for 90 minutes. This is a pounding. I was the graduation speaker at law school. I did 5 minutes - any longer is torture.
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May 14, 2017 04:48
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Being a lawyer is terrible. Law School is terrible. Law Review is the most terrible part of Law School. Maybe this dude will parlay his top 7% ranking and law review into a job at my firm where the glimmer and hope in his eye will quickly fade into cynicism, alcoholism and depression.
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May 25, 2017 17:50
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evilweasel posted:law school was loving great I went to a TTT and needed to be top 10% and law review to cop big law. No bueno. E: You like big law too, so I think we are just personality incompatible. Sab0921 fucked around with this message at 15:52 on May 26, 2017 |
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May 26, 2017 15:36
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Jonathan Fisk posted:Hey, I asked for application advice ITT a while back and displayed my massive ignorance and general shameful optimism, and now I'm more pessimistic but still making a go of it. Through the process I managed to whittle down my choices to either Wake or Bama with the understanding that I both enjoy the Southeast and that if I wanted to go home (Buffalo), the market in my home city mainly recruits from its t3 state school and my higher ranked out of state degree would stand a fighting chance in that sense (assuming decent performance). I could attend either of these schools for between 5-10k tuition per year, which didn't make me want to run and scream, I guess. Take the 'Cuse Money and stay home. Freedom of movement for a Bama or Wake grad is minimal unless you're top 10% or law review - you can't really count on either.
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Jun 8, 2017 05:29
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Jonathan Fisk posted:I don't really want to live/work in NYC, and Cornell didn't want to play ball. I could probably improve my 170 to 172 or so but i don't know if that would move the needle given my low gpa from ugrad Go regional. I had a bad UG GPA, 172 LSAT, went to UH and work in Houston. Bad GPA is tough to overcome. You want to work in NY? Go to school in NY.
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Jun 9, 2017 04:02
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