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One of my good friends got me into Sanderson and I sped read the first three Mistborn books (excellent), Warbreaker (also excellent) and am 65% of the way through Elantris (rough at times but I'm aware it's one of his first books). From there he says I should read the Stormlight books next (The Way of Kings), that sound like a good next series to hit up?
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Mordiceius posted:So you’re almost where I am. I did the Mistborn Trilogy, Elantris, and am starting Warbreaker. After that, I plan on hitting Wax & Wayne before moving on to Stormlight. I was thinking about reading the second trilogy of Mistborn (think that's what Wax & Wayne is) but I need a break from that world for a bit, and Warbreaker was a great distraction. I'll look into hitting up Arcanum and Emperor's Soul next though my friend really keeps pushing the Stormlight books, mostly so he has somebody to talk to about them. scary ghost dog posted:next you should read the blade itself by joe abercrombie okay I'll add it to my list.
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Jul 2, 2021 21:57
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Reaverbot posted:Warbreaker is really good, especially compared to the stuff that came before it. It’s actually kind of surprising because it has an extremely sleepy beginning but as soon as the two main plots get jogging along it’s really engaging and feels like it does a little bit more to differentiate itself from Sanderson’s usual formula. The ending isn’t fantastic but honestly up until the point it was written I feel like every book he’d made except for The Final Empire had a lovely ending too. It wasn't until I was 20% into Warbreaker when it really clicked, once Siri finally stood up to and spoke to Susebron and you find out he's basically a child. After reading the first three Mistborn books I was expecting some all powerful ruler, but loved the idea he's nothing more than a puppet. Oh and Lightsong is a wonderful character, and the whole time I pictured him as Dionysus from Hades. It seems like a perfect fit for both his look, demeanor and divinity. Finished book two of Elantris last night, which I loved, and am moving on to the Stormlight Archive.
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Jul 8, 2021 15:56
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Synesthesian Fetish posted:Emperor's Soul or is there an Elantris book I'm not aware of? Emperor's Soul, which is labeled Elantris book 2 for whatever reason.
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Jul 8, 2021 20:21
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eke out posted:this was extremely confusing to me, as i was trying to remember when i wrote that quote (that i did not write) lol well maybe next time etch it into a metal plate!
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Jul 9, 2021 01:12
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Reaverbot posted:I disliked both Lightsong and Denth at first because they both seemed like perpetual one liner machines. Eventually I got acclimated to them though, the latter for obvious reasons and the former because I accepted it was part of his character and that in canon most people found it irritating. It ended up making him somehow more endearing to me. My biggest surprise with Warbreaker was Nightblood, which I thought was going to be the most irritating part of the book but actually ended up being the comedic element that made me actually laugh the most reliably. I don't think anybody really likes Lightsong at first but how Sanderson writes his nonchalant attitude coupled with his self-deprecation absolutely makes him endearing, but to me he also comes off as a continuous dad joke with his humor, which I love. For me Nightblood was annoying and kinda boring though it sounds like he has a decent backstory fleshed out by a different book series (which one?). I really like the story of how he was created and how a vague, original ethos was twisted into an equally vague way to fulfill it.
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Jul 9, 2021 03:13
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3% into the first Stormlight book and my Kindle says I have 137 hours left in the "book" though I suspect that's for all three books, is that right? So loving daunting, this is going to take foreverrrrrrr
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Jul 16, 2021 16:49
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Think I’ve mentioned it before but Lightsong is 100% Dionysus from Hades, down to the wine drinking, sarcasm and laid back don’t give a poo poo attitude. Here’s the voice I’d use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHmCANtm99g
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Jul 18, 2021 19:23
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I don’t know if I’m just burnt out on Sanderson but I’m 10% of the way through the first Stormlight book and it’s draaaaaaagging. I normally don’t mind his attention to detail of writing about the environments but he really goes overboard to the point where it takes away from the narrative and character interactions. I don’t care that a shack made from stone has a pebble ground or the color of every single thread on a cape. My good friend told me I’d be immediately hooked but it feels like work reading the book, which sucks. All his other books I’ve read were insanely addictive and a joy to read. I’ll keep going and give it a proper chance.
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Jul 29, 2021 03:13
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Oh apparently I’m more like 37% of the way through WoK (379/1007) and it’s starting to pick up more thanks to Dalinar’s first detailed vision. I’ll keep up the good fight.
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Jul 29, 2021 05:38
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That's very true in the first Alcatraz book I'm reading to my kids. We're 2/3rds of the way in and little to nothing of real interest has taken place; it's only been a few hours of in-book time and the main character has gone two places, and Sanderson's spent most of the pages on breaking the fourth wall through internal dialogue of reminding the reader of the same thing over and over and over again (that the character is a 'bad person', he's disappointed everybody in his life, foreshadowing a sacrifice on an altar). My kids are enjoying it but the worldbuilding is sparse and we're at a weird place in the book where Sanderson himself admits that it's odd he's spent "the last three chapters talking about being stuck in a jail cell" (almost verbatim quote), which comes off as an admission that he's done a lovely job of writing. But whatever, my kids are having fun despite me yelling internally "WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO GET TO THE FIREWORK FACTORY"
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Jul 29, 2021 16:29
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Mordiceius posted:Going from the Mistborn trilogy, which is some kill-or-be-killed fantasy to a more modern-ish setting feels like total whiplash. Late to this but I was going crazy with where I saw this same type of jarring world transformation and walked in on my kids watching Korra a bit ago and realized the same type of transition happened from Aang to Korra's world. I haven't read AoL yet but it seems like the same type of change.
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Aug 5, 2021 17:03
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Mordiceius posted:It’s jarring and weird but also cool and good and more media should tell stories where the setting evolves between eras instead of staying static Oh totally, it's not a bad thing at all, I was racking my brain with where I saw a similar transition (with 'magic' and all) and realized both world evolutions are similar.
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Aug 5, 2021 17:20
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Mordiceius posted:Waxillium turned to- lmao aaahahaha I was reading my kids some Alcatraz last night and he did just that, so funny.  tbf it's not a bad literary device as big things don't just conveniently happen once a conversation ends or whatever, but you definitely do notice a pattern.
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Aug 6, 2021 23:26
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Way of Kings done and drat did it pick up in the last 20% of the book, like all Sanderson books, but man it was so confusing for the first half. I’m generally pretty good at picking up his overarching themes but it took a while for everything to click. Not sure if it’s because Stormlight is his big epic or something else but I’m liking it so far.
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Aug 21, 2021 16:24
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Potato Salad posted:I still think the way he represents Shallan makes no sense but I'm assured by an acquaintance that it really be like that some days, which I guess means that I'm the one who has more to learn Are the characters in Stormlight supposed to be progressive or something? I don’t really get that vibe outside the clear socialist themes of “listen to and empathize with the every day worker/person” concept but the whole sexy safehand thing is so loving funny and dumb.
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Aug 21, 2021 16:43
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eke out posted:getting hornt up about exposed ankles is funny and dumb and equally a real thing, the point is that cultural sexual taboos are rather arbitrary yeah I get that but being turned on by one hand and not the other is funny. It’s like if women let their left breast hang out but people didn’t care because they actually want to peep the right one. I bet the people whose boon is their vision is mirrored are in heaven lol.
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Aug 21, 2021 16:54
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road potato posted:That whole thing made sense when I learned that he lives and teaches in Utah, and is a member of the Latter Day Saints church. It's clear that he knows about and is critical of arbitrary enforcement of specific hierarchical gender roles and taboos because of his lived experience. I used to live an an area with a lot of Mormons and knew a bunch of Mormon families, and that safehand stuff totally tracks. Right the idea in and of itself makes a lot of sense when you take mormonism’s prudish innocence into consideration (good friend of mine’s grandparents did the whole secret handshake at the temple in Utah, secret underwear and all), I just find it funny that one bare hand and not both are seen as scandalous. It’d be like me letting my balls hang out but I cover the right with a cloth.
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Aug 22, 2021 05:50
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Been avoiding the thread so I don't accidentally read some spoilers (almost read an Adolin spoiler and at that point I had to swear off the thread) but wanted to jump in to say I finished Words of Radiance and loving hell does the book end in the badass feverdream you hope it does. I can never tell with Sanderson if he'll pull the rug out from you like he always does or what, then I remembered that Stormlight it supposed to be 10 books long so of course he can't just go and off a bunch of people at once. Still, I'm addicted and jumped right into Edgedancer and am wondering if I should hold off on Oathbringer or read something else first since it sounds like other books tie pretty well into Stormlight. So far I've read: Elantris (and the asian inspired novella) Mistborn 1 through 3 Warbreaker Way of Kings Words of Radiance Edgedancer (current) Should I jump into Oathbringer or detour into something else?
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Sep 13, 2021 23:42
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Torrannor posted:Read Oathbringer next, it's a fantastic book. Mistborn Era 2 stuff does show up in a minor way in Words of Radiance, but it's no big deal to miss it. Excellent, thanks! My reading pace is pretty good considering work and kids and all that, though my Sanderson journey will absolutely be interrupted once book 9 of Expanse comes out in a couple months. Either way, I'll probably finish Oathbringer by then and will move to Mistborn era 2.
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Sep 14, 2021 16:13
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Can somebody help me understand what Sanderson means when he writes something like “Kaladin started”? He does it a lot and I’ve mostly ignored it but it seems everybody in Oathbringer is either pursing their lips or starting and the latter isn’t giving me a good visual of what’s actually happening.
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Nov 12, 2021 03:28
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Cool that’s what I figured, it just doesn’t come off as.. I don’t know, the appropriate word to use at times for me, it’s weird. Maybe flinched kinda works?
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Nov 12, 2021 03:46
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Nov 23, 2021 23:24
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On the last 5%/10% of Oathbringer and ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccck man, so god drat good. It’s going to be hard to not immediately jump into RoW but I need to knock out Expanse book 9 otherwise my friends will never forgive me.
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Dec 11, 2021 16:42
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Speaking, if I love Sanderson is it safe to say I’ll like the WoT books?
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Dec 11, 2021 21:38
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Yessss he's finally starting on Stormlight book 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1kbpjcXsqM
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Jan 10, 2022 18:44
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I'm roughly ~15% through Rhythm of War and I'm having a hell of a time getting hooked to it, which is unfortunate given the incredible ending of Oathbringer. Not to say it's bad so far, it started out strong and seems to be dragging out sections that should be much shorter. -The first three books seemed to treat time as a precious commodity, so the one year time jump was pretty jolting. Not to say it wasn't good, but later the singers complain the humans have outpaced them specific to technology, so they sat back and let the humans take a whole year to build a radiant army AND a huge flying battleship? Maybe they didn't have the large number of Fused during that time as they do now? Not sure. -Shallan is sooooooooo boring. I appreciate Sanderson taking on a thing like multiple personalities but given Stormlight loves to throw TONS of characters at you, it's really tough to keep up with them. Radiant is a non-entity, what purpose does she serve? Veil I get but Radiant, to me, is indistinguishable from Shallan. -The exposition seems especially thick so far, specifically with the singers. Maybe that's because we're learning of things through the eyes of Venli, but it still seems forced. -Yes, we get it, Kaladin is immeasurably sad, depressed and suffering from PTSD. Laboring on this fact for pages upon pages upon pages tends to get old when everything around him has changed so much and acting as more of curiosity to the reader than how Kaladin has changed. I'll definitely power through and know things will become more interesting but man, it's hard to not just speed read through some of these chapters.
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Feb 1, 2022 17:34
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100% agreed on the overall concept and it's clear Sanderson has taken lots of care to be respectful to any of the mental illnesses he writes about by working with professionals (he even says as much in his acknowledgements), it just at times doesn't make for engaging reading, or he tends to drag on scenes that could have a tighter narrative. At book 4 it's been well established where Kaladin sits, and we root for him to find peace and get well. Regardless, I'm still enjoying the book but it's needlessly wordy in many spots this time around.
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Feb 1, 2022 18:21
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eke out posted:he failed repeatedly in Oathbringer and then rapidly burnt out as a soldier and then was trapped alone in RoW, with the only way to 'level up' being to actually forgive himself for many of the above failures I really do appreciate Sanderson tackled Kaladin's PTSD in the form of either being shell shocked or weathered from battle after battle as it seemed like a natural progression to explore in conjunction with his severe depression. That progression (or regression, I guess?) makes sense and is a great allegory to modern day soldiers trying to assimilate into "normal" society after only knowing death and destruction. As always though, I do keep in mind Sanderson is very good at tying all of this together within the last 10% of each book and know most of these components are a means to an end.
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Feb 1, 2022 19:47
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Hope it's not coming off that I'm dumping on Kaladin or his perspective at all, clearly Sanderson's done his homework and it's cool to see it's resonated with others. Think I read.. 8? 9? or so Sanderson books straight, then went into Expanse book 9 and was really thrown off by how tight and succinct the writing was in there, so revisiting Stormlight I'm kinda annoyed by how wordy everything is in general.
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Feb 2, 2022 01:47
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Sanderson did a live signing stream yesterday and did a live Q&A along with it, and answered some juice questions about Stormlight, era 3 of Mistborn and sequels to Warbreaker and Elantris. Was a great background listen and got me excited for the books we'll probably not see for another 10 years! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtBuxqf_6zg
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Feb 2, 2022 19:37
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Mordiceius posted:How big of spoilers is this poo poo y’all are talking about? I haven’t started Stormlight, so it sucks that people just openly talk about characters that die!! Death is a bit nebulous in Stormlight so you're not being spoiled that much, if at all. I'd venture to say you'll forget just about all of this as you'll be too busy putting faces to names and understanding the world.
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Feb 2, 2022 22:51
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God dammit it would’ve owned if instead he said he’s written the next three Stormlight books
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Mar 1, 2022 17:17
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Was debating going e-book only but gently caress it, threw down $200 as I thought it would be fun to get physical copies of Kickstarter only books.
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Mar 1, 2022 17:35
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Mordiceius posted:gently caress you Brandon. I was actually worried for a moment. Was kinda expecting him to say he smoked pot once or smelled alcohol but of course it's something extremely wholesome like writing a poo poo ton of secret books
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Mar 1, 2022 18:15
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Sab669 posted:Yea I was thinking it was going to be like, "I'm all too aware of the reputation surrounding my productivity, but it's just unsustainable guys I need to cut back" normal authors: I'm extremely depressed, I'm cheating on my spouse, I'm snorting coke, I haven't been able to write anything for months sanderson, in extreme goldmember voice: I wrote boooooooooooooooooooks
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Mar 1, 2022 18:25
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Evil Fluffy posted:4.55m and still climbing, with the average amount per backer in the $290 range? perhaps his mormon fanbase considers it part of their tithing and are going all in. e: For actual content, I'm slowly getting back into RoW again and am roughly 55% in and it's excellent. I appreciate how the stakes are consistently high as opposed to having those quiet moments before the storm (pun intended), which is so much more engaging. The only bleh segments are with the singers as it tends to be a bit boring, and I don't feel capturing their songs/hums comes through well on paper. Louisgod fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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Mar 1, 2022 19:57
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lol they were about to hit $6 million and Kickstarter crashed. Brandon noted there are two other big campaigns going at the same time too.
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Mar 1, 2022 21:14
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How dare somebody focus their mental strain into something they love to do and share with others
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High Warlord Zog posted:I expect there'll be an announcement of some kind of plan to pay some of the international shipping costs to make the physical books are away boxes more accessible for non-American backers They went over this in the live stream yesterday and noted they're already eating some of the shipping costs in general, both domestically and internationally, to try and help keep them "low" but that they straight up don't have the ability to reduce beyond what they're charging unless they can somehow print the books somewhere in EMEA (long-term plan but they can't right now).
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