RPG Thread: SaGa Emeril Beyond

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Oxxidation: Jul 22, 2007

still salty that we never got a localization for SB2 heroes because the vanilla game unironically has some of the best dub work i've ever heard

# ? Mar 25, 2024 00:38

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:29

Paying2Lurk: Sep 15, 2023; I'd take a bullet
for a bud any day.

Professor Moriarty posted:

Not exactly the thread for it but what's the current gold standard for Musou games now? Haven't played one since Dynasty Warriors 4.

Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate

If you liked Persona 5, P5 Strikers is a fun sequel.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 00:45

Sakurazuka: Jan 24, 2004; NANI?

Professor Moriarty posted:

Not exactly the thread for it but what's the current gold standard for Musou games now? Haven't played one since Dynasty Warriors 4.

The best warriors game now are same as 10 years ago, Samurai Warriors 4, Warriors Orochi 3, Dynasty Warriors 8 and Hyrule Warriors

# ? Mar 25, 2024 00:49

GateOfD: Jan 31, 2023; *doki* *doki*

Paying2Lurk posted:

Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate

If you liked Persona 5, P5 Strikers is a fun sequel.

really liked Strikers, since it was Dynasty Warriors-ish, but not full DW.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 01:03

Venuz Patrol: Mar 27, 2011

Professor Moriarty posted:

Not exactly the thread for it but what's the current gold standard for Musou games now? Haven't played one since Dynasty Warriors 4.

Dynasty Warriors 8. all the mechanics have been refined to a razor sharp edge, there's an insane amount of game to play, tons of variety between the characters, and i love what they did with the alternate history campaigns you can unlock by pulling off difficult objectives on certain maps

# ? Mar 25, 2024 01:09

Paying2Lurk: Sep 15, 2023; I'd take a bullet
for a bud any day.

GateOfD posted:

really liked Strikers, since it was Dynasty Warriors-ish, but not full DW.

Yeah it managed to feel like Persona with some DW flavor. Plus it's a cool hangout game with the gang.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 01:11

GateOfD: Jan 31, 2023; *doki* *doki*

i find it amusing that a few game releases are like "oh poo poo, the DLC for Elden Ring is that week, everyone, we're delaying out release dates, we're not gonna try to even challenge that" Even saying that it be a suicidal release date.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 01:34

FireWorksWell: Nov 27, 2014; Let's go do some hero shit!

SMT V got pushed up a week so I'm happy with that.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 01:38

Hunter Noventa: Apr 21, 2010

Sakurazuka posted:

The best warriors game now are same as 10 years ago, Samurai Warriors 4, Warriors Orochi 3, Dynasty Warriors 8 and Hyrule Warriors

Three Hopes was pretty good and had some fun systems that would work nicely in any Musou game, but it didn't have enough movesets.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 03:42

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

pirate warriors 3 is pretty good, as is sengoku basara 4 sumeragi

# ? Mar 25, 2024 04:01

Annath: Jan 11, 2009; Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these; Clever Betty

Samurai Warriors 4 is my go-to.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 04:04

Meowywitch: Jan 14, 2010

Endorph posted:

pirate warriors 3 is pretty good, as is sengoku basara 4 sumeragi

what about pirate warriors 4?

# ? Mar 25, 2024 05:28

ImpAtom: May 24, 2007

I would go to bat for Age of Calamity having the overall best character design in a Warriors game by a significant degree, even if the level design isn't great.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 05:33

Failboattootoot: Feb 6, 2011; Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

Meowywitch posted:

what about pirate warriors 4?

Not as good as 3 for reasons I can't quite put my finger on but are almost assuredly related to how grindy it can get.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 05:40

Einander: Sep 14, 2008; "Yeh've forged a magnificent sword."

"This one's only practice. The real sword I intend to forge will be three times longer."

"Can there really be a sword as monstrous as that in this world?"

"Yes. I can see that sword... Somewhere out there..."

ImpAtom posted:

I would go to bat for Age of Calamity having the overall best character design in a Warriors game by a significant degree, even if the level design isn't great.

I feel like "level design isn't great" is really understating the problem. When a Warriors game has good levels, it pressures you and forces you to juggle multiple objectives and to make the most of when multiple characters are available, because if you walk everywhere with one character then you're going to lose forts or CPU allies. Hyrule Warriors was good about this! But Age of Calamity basically just doesn't have that entire aspect of the game. The combat's good! But without a context to pressure you it all feels kind of hollow.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 06:53

they want shady: May 11, 2013

Meowywitch posted:

what about pirate warriors 4?

less maps and characters, better gameplay. Introduces aerial combat which wasn't really necessary for a warrior's game lol and also environmental damage which is pretty deece

Adds more customization to movesets which is fun enough to gently caress around with for the 20 minutes before you realize there's not a lot of depth to it. Aerial combat's a nice thought but it's janky and the best characters are Speed characters. Cavendish and Carrot are tremendously broken so if you love them you'll love PW4 (haven't played DLC characters so couldn't tell you how Yamato gets in that game). Also the extra modes are way more boring than 3's, so less replayable if that's what you're looking for.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 07:07

Venuz Patrol: Mar 27, 2011

okiku is my big favorite one piece character and she's playable in pirate warriors 4, so thats the one you should play if you pick any of them

# ? Mar 25, 2024 07:11

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

pirate warriors 4 is okay but a lot of characters from 3 wound up with much jankier movesets than they had in 3, like crocodile.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 10:04

Clarste: Apr 15, 2013; Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

When I read "pirate warriors" my first thought was that it'd be some weird pseudo-historical thing with all the most famous pirates from the age of pirates, so hearing that it's just One Piece is somehow disappointing.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 11:24

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

if you want a koei game with weird playable characters bladestorm lets you play as Christine de Pizan

# ? Mar 25, 2024 11:32

Infinity Gaia: Feb 27, 2011; a storm is coming...

So Legend of Legacy is supposed to be bad, right? Noticed an HD version or whatever just launched and it got me a bit curious.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 11:48

Mierenneuker: Apr 28, 2010; We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Infinity Gaia posted:

So Legend of Legacy is supposed to be bad, right? Noticed an HD version or whatever just launched and it got me a bit curious.

The Alliance Alive was made later, but already got a HD port years ago. Even the developer and publisher know the later game was far better.

I don't know if it is considered bad tho. It just isn't good enough to make it to a "best RPGs that were on the 3DS" list unless you are making a top 50. Barely.

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Mar 25, 2024

# ? Mar 25, 2024 12:10

Paying2Lurk: Sep 15, 2023; I'd take a bullet
for a bud any day.

Crystal Ortha update. About 2 hours in. It's not bad! Not great either, but hitting that JRPG junk food craving I was having.

Encounter rate is high, like count to 5 and you'll be in another fight high, but there's Auto and 2X speed options so it's been fine.
Random encounters can kill you if you're under-leveled, but it doesn't take long to catch up in a new area. At least for now.
Your HP heals after every fight, no healing items either. Just Skills you can use in combat.
You collect Gem fragments that give you boosts like +3 Agility, etc. No need to equip / use them, passive for the party.
No money, which is neat. You craft new equipment with Ore.
All the chests and gems are marked on the mini-map.
Story is clunky, but interesting enough. I've played worse / more confusing from Kemco.

I thought there would be more to the gem fragment system, like needing to decide which ones to keep active or combining them, but nope. You just get the stats after finding them. Combat is done first-person / Dragonquest style. Not a ding against it, but I have more nostalgia for side-view fighting.

Oh, and the "Crytal Ortha" is the thing you're searching for in the game. Ortha apparently means "sea" in an old language so it's a huge sea of crystals. Crystals are the hot new power source, replacing steam engines, but they're linked to ancient dragons and they corrupt animals exposed to them so they may be bad, too. It's engaging enough.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 12:26

Levantine: Feb 14, 2005; GUNDAM!!!

Mierenneuker posted:

The Alliance Alive was made later, but already got a HD port years ago. Even the developer and publisher know the later game was far better.

I don't know if it is considered bad tho. It just isn't good enough to make it to a "best RPGs that were on the 3DS" list unless you are making a top 50. Barely.

I found it kind of interesting. Alliance Alive is absolutely better for sure. It's got similar (if less baked) mechanics and a good soundtrack. On the flipside I found it to be very, very grindy and I think the 3 person party is very limiting. Personally I'd wait for a sale (or play Alliance Alive if one hasn't).

# ? Mar 25, 2024 12:30

Rinkles: Oct 24, 2010; What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

yup, confirming that DQ Builders 2 is dope.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 13:39

Barudak: May 7, 2007

Rinkles posted:

yup, confirming that DQ Builders 2 is dope.

Hell yeah it is

# ? Mar 25, 2024 13:44

Srice: Sep 11, 2011

Infinity Gaia posted:

So Legend of Legacy is supposed to be bad, right? Noticed an HD version or whatever just launched and it got me a bit curious.

It's fine but I wouldn't pay full price for it, especially when we have a new SaGa game coming up.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 14:22

Meowywitch: Jan 14, 2010

they want shady posted:

less maps and characters, better gameplay. Introduces aerial combat which wasn't really necessary for a warrior's game lol and also environmental damage which is pretty deece

Adds more customization to movesets which is fun enough to gently caress around with for the 20 minutes before you realize there's not a lot of depth to it. Aerial combat's a nice thought but it's janky and the best cbuharacters are Speed characters. Cavendish and Carrot are tremendously broken so if you love them you'll love PW4 (haven't played DLC characters so couldn't tell you how Yamato gets in that game). Also the extra modes are way more boring than 3's, so less replayable if that's what you're looking for.

bunny girls remain extra

# ? Mar 25, 2024 16:05

TheMightyBoops: Nov 1, 2016

I wish we�d get another Gundam Dynasty Warriors.

# ? Mar 25, 2024 16:06

DNE: Nov 24, 2007

GiantRockFromSpace posted:

I wish Sifrin got more useful stuff

Sifrin wishes they were more useful too

# ? Mar 25, 2024 17:20

GiantRockFromSpace: Mar 1, 2019; Just Cram It

DNE posted:

Sifrin wishes they were more useful too

...that hurts after getting a Rock attack and the Attack Buff at battle start Memory. And well, everything else. I'm sorry my boy, you are the best, please forgive yourself or at least that's what I think the Headmaiden is trying to say before the forced looping

# ? Mar 25, 2024 17:27

Leraika: Jun 14, 2015; Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.

Mystia's Izakaya update: you can take all the time you want to challenge the final boss, which is a) a little odd considering the pacing of the rest of the game b) nevertheless greatly appreciated because the first time I challenged her I got rng screwed into a no-win loop on her second phase

edit: is it an rpg? I'm not entirely sure but it's good and more people should play it

# ? Mar 25, 2024 17:33

Annath: Jan 11, 2009; Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these; Clever Betty

Leraika posted:

Mystia's Izakaya update: you can take all the time you want to challenge the final boss, which is a) a little odd considering the pacing of the rest of the game b) nevertheless greatly appreciated because the first time I challenged her I got rng screwed into a no-win loop on her second phase

edit: is it an rpg? I'm not entirely sure but it's good and more people should play it

I have that game but haven't played it yet.

Does it run on the Steam Deck?

# ? Mar 25, 2024 18:13

TurnipFritter: Apr 21, 2010; 10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME

Rinkles posted:

yup, confirming that DQ Builders 2 is dope.

It's really good. I wish they'd release a Builders 3.............

Infinity Gaia posted:

So Legend of Legacy is supposed to be bad, right? Noticed an HD version or whatever just launched and it got me a bit curious.

It's like... a less good SaGa game, but the 3DS version was released a bit before they started porting all the SaGa games so it filled a certain niche. But now you could just play, like, any SaGa game and have a better time, including SaGa Emerald Beyond, releasing in one month.

(Incidentally, The Alliance Alive, a pseudo-sequel, also got remaster several years ago, and by most accounts it's a much better game. It was written by the late Yoshitaka Murayama, who also has a game coming out next month, Eiyuden Chronicles Hundred Heroes)

# ? Mar 25, 2024 18:26