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Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

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aww man.
The only revolution that doesn't sound depressing was in Tunis.

All the rest feel more like third world civil wars than an actual people driven revolt, along with the massive death count that usually comes with.
:smith:

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Pureauthor posted:

I'm pretty sure most revolts come with massive death counts?

I mean of the Arab spring.

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Crasscrab posted:

In the comments (after Google translated)


Syrians have some foul mouths. I think.

Only their kids.:colbert:
And they kiss their mothers with that mouth.

Yep, it's just a massive stream of incoherent expletives between two sides, one that supports the Syrian revolt and the other that thinks it's a conspiracy/sham involving GCC employed mercenaries or some other kind of things.

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'Objectionable material' is my favorite political term. It's so drat vague.

I would think if it was anything especially dangerous they would toot their sirens to gather more justification for more extreme forms of self defence if need be.

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Xandu posted:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/world/middleeast/jihadists-receiving-most-arms-sent-to-syrian-rebels.html?pagewanted=all

I got to say, I'm a little surprised Saudi Arabia didn't learn more lessons from fighting Al Qaeda in Saudi Arabia over the last decade. I mean, it's not encouraging Saudis to go abroad to fight anymore, which is good, but it's still supporting radical groups.

Jihadists is SUCH a lovely goddamn term.
An important tenet of Islam has been reduced in the eyes of the public to 'holy war' when in fact it is meant as personal sacrifice.

Not always one of blood, but more often than not one of personal belongings, money and even just time spent for a just and right cause. Even then it's not always for Islam. Honestly one of the ways of spotting a radical or extremist in Islam is that they firmly believe without a shadow of a doubt that Jihad is solely to die on the battlefield against your enemies.

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Crasscrab posted:

This is a deliberate attempt at starving a people out in the hopes that it will influence their internal politics.

Now that is just depraved.
Why is it so easy for other countries to just turn their heads while poo poo like this has been going on for the past decade?

Honestly the way I see it Israel, as it currently stands with it's policies, has no place in the modern world.

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Cream_Filling posted:

To be fair, it's not like we give a poo poo when this sort of thing happens in any other part of the Middle East or Africa, either.

Difference is that Israel one of the USA's closest allies.
It's like it's government has absolutely no wish to reconcile and establish a peaceful state.

I know that there is a century of bad blood between Palestinians and Israelis but if anything that should encourage diplomatic aid by other countries to establish a lasting peace.

It would be a politically monumental move on the part of the country or group of countries that would stop this and, I am not exaggerating on this, it would most definitely be a giant leap in relations with the entire Muslim world.

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az jan jananam posted:

It's incriminating Saudi Arabia solely; the letter is from the Saudi Interior Ministry. But yes, that's what the letter says, death row convicts convicted of drug smuggling, murder and rape were pardoned, their families were paid monthly pensions in exchange for training and deployment for jihad in Syria.

Their families are also not allowed to leave Saudi and as far as I know it seems that the death sentence has been revoked, but they are not pardoned.

The total comes to ~1300 death row inmates given a gun, some possibly inadequate training on par with conscript training,

They will probably also be deployed in a very warhammer 40k fashion. Both sides of advance and retreat may as well spell death.

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Miltank posted:

So what you are saying is that they are the Last Chancers?

Not too certain. The document doesn't make any allusions towards that certain point, but since they were released for the express purpose of fighting in Syria it might be true.

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Dec 13, 2012

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Kaal posted:

To expand on this - a nasheed is a form of devotional a capella singing. Very akin to Western hymns or Gregorian chant. The lyrics are repetitive and inherently religious in nature. Much like the Christian "Alleluias", the musicality is found in reinventing the traditional themes. Conservative muslims, and most of these militias are filled with conservative muslims, typically believe that musical instruments are inherently sinful (basic percussion is given a pass). Indeed, music stores and musicians themselves are often targeted in the Middle East.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anasheed

Not often. The attacks are very few and very far in between. Music is ingrained in all Muslim cultures, just like all other cultures.

The one time music would be makrouh (not Haram, but to be avoided) would be when there is a call to prayer.

Nasheeds are more popular in west Asia but as soon as you cross the borders to the Levant it drops off in popularity.

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Dec 20, 2012

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Sethmaster posted:

Ahhh, egypt. The only current place where jews have to pay a crippling tax on top of normal taxes everyone pay, because of their race, regardless of their actual status and poverty. Must feel like heaven down there now that all the jews are running away with their ungodly businesses :jihad:.

Sorry, but what?
I have never heard of this.

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Pro-PRC Laowai posted:

Unless I'm mistaken, he's talking about jizya, which was abolished in Egypt some 150 years ago and would in theory be levied against the less than 100 jews who live in Egypt.

Jizya would have been levied against all non-muslims so I dunno.
It wasn't Jew, or any other denomination, specific.

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Xandu posted:

Yeah she's most likely a convert, but I'm surprised to see people without significant ties to Syria or the region going over there. Not to stereotype, but it seems plausible she married someone originally from the region.

It's the same way that guy who posted here wanted to go to Libya to fight with the rebels.
Head first into a fight they may not fully understand.

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gfanikf posted:

Beats IKEA. Also I think this is the first Syria video were I didn't hear Allah Akbar even once...let alone every five words. lol


You'd be going 'Good lord oh poo poo oh poo poo oh poo poo' if you were in a battlefield. :colbert:

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Acid Haze posted:

Forgive my ignorance, but could you explain to me what is happening here?

A protest. It's a show of high spirits/morale.
Just saying 'We aren't afraid.'

They're also chanting, transliterated, 'Arabs, fear Allah', the latter is a saying that means Allah is watching.
In this case it means Arabs, do something about this.


Also never touch any ordinance, not even with a 30 foot pole. Jesus. :stare:

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Kaal posted:

This is good advice in principle, but if no one picks it up then it'll just end up sitting in the street for a month as traffic goes by. It's not like there's roving bands of EOD squads.

Bit of an exaggeration on my part, but still, I wouldn't do the removal with bare hands.

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Thats pretty ingenious.
I like the shiny muzzle brake and the spring on the barrel.

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RandomPauI posted:

Yeah, this is the post that lead me to put Babychoom on ignore. Never thought I'd use the feature until today.

Every single post he makes should be in the goldmine.


Help I've watched too much coverage on this new fangled gadget and now I have urges to destroy it all.

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SBJ posted:

Every exchange student we have had stay with us from the Gulf states absolutely throttled our bandwidth with the amount of pornography they viewed. Interesting how they fit that much porn time between the 5 prayers they engaged in throughout the day.

We had a 500GB plan.

That's what abstinence only gets you.
I do not know a single person from my generation who hasn't jerked it to (lots and lots of) porn. Something about the area just makes your sex drive insane as a teenager.
Except this one guy, but he could've become a Mullah.

(I live in Qatar, for reference)

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Nah I mean especially so.
It's more the social environment there.

It kinda messes people up sexually. At least the people I knew were smart enough to not get anyone teen pregnant.
Man that would have completely blown the place apart.

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mirepoix posted:

I've been interested in learning conversational arabic for a while, and since I follow this thread I've noticed there are a fair number of arabic speakers in here. If I wanted to be able to communicate on the internet, what version of arabic should I (attempt) to learn? And as a point of interest, how do all of these various international fighters communicate with each other, when it comes to dialects of arabic? Can a speaker of iraqi arabic communicate with a speaker of egyptian arabic or levantine arabic? Are they close enough that they can muddle through? What dialect of arabic are da'esh's media releases in, or for that matter ANF, or AQAP's inspire magazine?

Well to answer that, I'm Algerian, though it might be easier for me living in Qatar all these years I don't have much trouble understanding other dialects even though I can't speak them (as in fully correct, with all the inflections and turns of phrase) to save my life, outside of Algerian my Arabic is downright broken.

It's a matter of being so familiar with Arabic that you can easily jump dialects.
And also theres a tendency to cut down on region-specific words when talking to people from other regions.

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The-Mole posted:

Allahu Akbar is everything from "oh my gosh" to "HOLY loving poo poo."

Yup.
It scales the entire gamut, from 'Happiest person on earth' to 'standing in the middle of a bombing run' and everything in between.
Guy's wife just successfully went through 13 hours of labour? "Allahu Akbar."
Same guy's father just died? "Allahu Akbar."

There really isn't an equivalent word or phrase for it in English. It's absolutely steeped with cultural meaning and the contexts in which it's used.

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TildeATH posted:

Among what communities? I think ha'Allah and insh'Allah and alhamdulillah and subhan'Allah and Nauzhubillah are far more common than Allahu Akbar among every Muslim community except guys with Tow Missiles and bowie knives.

Nobody I know says Allahu Akbar when something lucky/blessed occurs, they say alhamdulillah for things and subhan'Allah for people. Likewise, nobody says Allahu Akbar when things are really bad.

The thought that Allahu Akbar is some kind of Islamic catchphrase in use outside of jihadis (and prayer, of course) sounds crazy. Is it that way in ME?

The hell man?

Like I said it depends on context and it's said quite a bit, especially when people are quite emotional.
It's no catchphrase, far from it, but it's an expression and concept that is absolutely central to the religion and as such holds a great deal of importance.

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TildeATH posted:

You don't know what you're talking about, and it's making you sound stupid as you dissemble. No one agreed with you, not just me, and it sounds like one of those silly assumptions someone with no real experience with Islam makes (though I granted that it might be something particular to Muslims in the ME). You should just admit that you're wrong and that Allahu Akbar isn't used all the time for everything, because it's not.

Except in TFF, where people love saying that poo poo when their evil team wins.

Dude come on.
I'm Algerian and I've lived in Qatar for the last whole of my life.
I think I might know a little about what I'm talking about.

But you are right it's not used for everything, yet, that isn't something I have actually claimed.
I've only said it carries a lot of importance socially and religiously and that it's definitely not restricted to only a few situations.

Hell every Muslim, if they observe to all 5 prayers a day, says it 119 times.

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Public sanitation workers in aleppo havent seen a paycheck for a ehile now, the man in the video hasnt recieved one in three months, and have been forced to sell their most belongings to pay for food and meds. Apparently they are seeing no help from whatever governmental establishment that employs them. And aid supplies only arrive every 2-3 months

They are there protesting for their pay and rights.

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That is under the great assumption that the much more advanced SK military with US backing wont/cant do anything about that.

Also under the other assumption that SK isnt developing or collaborating with other countries on R&D. Samsung and the other major Korean super corps do play quite a part in military R&D and production last time I checked.

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Mans posted:

they'd make the ultimate ISIS movie and nuke a bunch of prisioners, with go-pros in the nuclear warhead and the prisioners.

Theyd would recreate the Terminator 2 nuke sequence, shot for shot.

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Torrannor posted:

How does this square with the general homophobia of extremist Islamist groups?

Well it's all about Butts.
They're not ones getting it in the butt, therefore it's not gay.

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Obama optimism was really, really strong in the ME. After 8 years of abysmal, disastrous relations and a cabinet that seemingly turned the entire countrys resources into loving with the ME Obama was a great big breath of fresh air, a person who could at least stop loving with the ME and fix the faults of his predecessor.

Then it didnt happen.

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In sorta Yemen related news: the various Dubai TV Channels have erupted into the cheesiest propaganda, overwrought speeches by news anchors, and non stop archived clips of various UAE military materiel and personnel with a voiceover of the same scripts the hosts were given.

UAE! UAE! UAE!

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Nah i have no doubt, I was just checking if The Closer was on.

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suboptimal posted:

Apparently it was caused by high winds and heavy rain, not shoddy Saudi safety standards (try saying that ten times fast)

Yup. I'm a good 1500 km (east) away from Mecca and we got an hour of freak strong winds and sandstorms.
I shudder to think how strong it was there.

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Liberal_L33t posted:

Where, exactly, is the expectation that one SHOULDN'T be pissed off about a gesture of cultural deference to one of the world's worst theocracies coming from?

Yeah they should have covered up all the Cathedrals.

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LL graduates from SA probations into real life probation.

Al-Saqr posted:

If a Turkish F-35 will keep him from posting here then it cant be all that bad for him to go.

Only if he's flying it.

GWBBQ posted:

My fellow Americans, remember when our Attorney General did the same poo poo and covered up topless statues in the Supreme Court? http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/01/29/statues.htm

I remember a pope (from a few hundred years ago, i think) once went around with a chisel and hammer doing impromptu castrations on various statues.

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Flayer posted:

I don't think anyone would step in on Turkey. Turkey has a powerful first world military and any kind of military intervention would have an extremely high casualty cost.

They're also a first world economy, so sanctions will hurt.

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Xoidanor posted:

Because the first thing we should do after finally letting Iran back into the fold is to create a new Iran. Genius!

It's quite not the same situation as Iran. Iran was not nearly as integrated into the world economy as Turkey, they were fresh out of a revolution. I mean in the case of a civil uprising in Turkey, and considering the military strength of Turkey, what other course of action would there be?
This is with the assumption that Erdoghan goes total Assad, and the situation devolves enough to justify intervention.
(And assuming that outside forces do not take Erdoghans side to ensure that money keeps flowing)

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 13:44 on May 7, 2016

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Yeah at this point it's acted mostly as a framework for international diplomacy, and rarely as an enforcer of international consensus.

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Teriyaki Koinku posted:

I think you and I both already know the answer to that. :smith:

Instant black lung

Except worse since these are probably sharp filaments rather than microfine coal dust, so imagine black lung with a side of asbestosis

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Dec 20, 2016

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Throatwarbler posted:

Mohammed Morsi took the side of Iran?

Booga booga Iran is coming to get ya

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Al-Saqr posted:

man and to think six years ago I thought we'd be out of this nightmare by now... :smith:

Hah
HAH

:smith:
Ha

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