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buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

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Kaboom Dragoon posted:

2) A (slightly spoilerful) word for dealing with Conrad Marburg in Rome: always pick the Suave option when dealing with him. He hates cocky upstarts and, trust me, you're going to want to get under his skin as much as possible. You'll thank me later, believe me.

Dont you have to Get the initial suave perk to pull any of that off?

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buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

Midnight Voyager posted:

No. It's painful, if you're not a snarker.

You have to have more snarky responses OVERALL than the other two types put together. In the entire game up until then. You also have to get all his dossier info first, too, 100%. And you have to snark at him fully. And remember, you get positive points for being sneaky and subtle at any point in Rome.


Here's what I did and got the same result:Used Suave options in the VERY beginning to get the Suave perk. Majority of responses were suave, including emails. Went to Rome first and did NOT shoot Al-Bara, but I did however have a shotgun slipup with the gelato shop man, which didn't net me positive reputation from Marburg. Every encounter with Marburg was met with pure suave attitude. I killed his men as well. And finally, I got his reputation to -8. Then in the final shootout I stuck with only suave options to drive it home. Dossier completion at 83%

Also something I noticed with a Suave playthrough: It's hilarious. The amount of people you piss off with terrible one liners, sex jokes, and one-track minded sayings is hysterical. Mina "Ice Queen" Tang of all people actually responds well to them. And the best part is Mike isn't really aware of how terrible half the things he says are.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

Regicide posted:

Love.

Not the most polished game, but this was the only Spy game where I actually felt like a spy. A great mix of combat, verbal manipulation, dramatic on the spot decisions, email hacking and dossier research made this game stand out from the rest.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
Almost all of the number strings in the hacking game are on the right side of the screen. I usually find at least one in the bottom right side.

A tip: DONT LOOK AT THE TIMER Despite what it says, you have more than enough time to find both number strings. If you keep looking at the timer (the top or bottom one) you only start panicking and lose focus because you have one eye on the timer and the other eye hardly looking. Once you stop worrying about the time, the hacking game becomes quite easy. Granted, this doesn't mean stop and look at each individual number, but don't look at the timer as if your life depends on it.

Yet another thing I like about AP: Using the [Silent] option. Thorton manages to give the perfect expression every time I use it, and it generally pisses people off every time. This goes double when Shepard thorton gives the :smug: look.

edit: why did I write shepard..

buglord fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jul 5, 2011

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

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Even though Mina can be a terribly flat ice queen of a character, she is pretty funny if you stay suave with her.

She told me something about me not being fully equipped compared to other guys :qq:

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

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poptart_fairy posted:

Being completely Suave pisses them off, yes, and never gets you laid. Mixing it in with another approach and using it at appropriate times, however, cultivates friendship and can possibly lead to romance depending on mutual decisions and understanding.

:goonsay:

But what fun is that when you can have a one track minded Thorton blurb out the hottest pickup line he got in his cell phone on demand? :allears: Seriously though, this game does great things when you mix and match dialogue approaches. Scarlet didn't like when I mouthed off lines from a low budget porno every time she'd talk to me.

Also the tidbits of reviews recently posted make me upset. :( I don't recall a RPG that nailed down conversations and cause/effect better than this one did. And how did they dislike KOTOR? My god, that's personal!

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

ToxicFrog posted:

After playing it a few times I've decided that the dialogue labels are what Thorton thinks they are, not necessarily what they actually are.

I think this should be stuck in the OP somewhere.

I will say though, doing a Suave playthough ensures a hilarious one. You really can't miss the collective sighs of disappointment and looks of sorrow from other characters after Mike says a really, really terrible line. And the ice queen we know as Mina actually gets funny after a while when you do Sauve.

Buy this game if you havent.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Though I suppose I could make him look more like Seth McFarlane and do a sarcastic/joking/suave run while not killing anyone.
Sarcastic/Suave Thornton is personally my favorite. There's a lot of legitimately funny lines....and then you get to see Thorton's friends collectively face-palm as he says cringe-worthy one liners and pick up lines he heard on the radio once.

Reading this thread always bothers me because I don't know how long it will be before we get another RPG with so much minute attention to detail and conversations.

buglord fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Feb 22, 2012

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

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So is there any word of AP2 or some spiritual successor? It didn't seem to be the case 600 posts ago, and google doesn't turn up anything very reliable. I'd really love more of this game.

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buglord
Jul 31, 2010

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theshim posted:

Steven Heck is a fantastic character precisely because there's just no way to ever be sure exactly what his deal is. He's one of the best utterly ambiguous characters I've ever seen.

Not like Wen. No, sir, not like Wen at all.

Try playing the game as nothing but Suave Thorton. A great number of people end up hating you and it's utterly fantastic.

Some even come around to liking your horrible one liners. Except that Albatross from G22. I remember his seething hatred. I also liked him too, so seeing his disapproval after being great friends with him previous playthroughs was scathing. Thorton is a lovable trainwreck.

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