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Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
I am on the 6th day during Devil Survivor Overclocked and I was winding if there was any events I should try to do to make sure that I don't close myself out of any endings.

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Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Joshlemagne posted:

The big one is saving Haru. If you don't do that you get locked into the bad ending IIRC.

I managed to save her so that is good to hear. Out of curiosity is there anyway to block shield all or is it just a screw you move that you have to force your way through.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
I was hoping there was a solution other then either holy or just solder through it. Anyway assuming I can get through the current fight I am in (the one with the six power and six shield all spamming starfish) I should hopefully be done with worry about it for awhile.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

projecthalaxy posted:

Also Naoya might be, based on his general appearance and actions so far (it's midday, Day 2) the single least trustworthy person I've ever seen in a game. If this guy isn't secretly Lucifer or Nyarlothep I will be so shocked.
I don't think so. The game does seem more unorthodox in terms of the characters being brought into the fray so I would be surprised if Naoya was one of the classic SMT baddies.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Just ran into the final bel and I have no idea how to handle his unlimited ranged attack.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Just beat Belberith on Nayto's route. I had tried many again and again the way the game wanted me to handle the fight but kept on losing due to him or one of his minions wiping out a team before I could reach him. I tried again with the simple plan of just abusing Phantasm and just laughed as my MC wiped him out in one round.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Having on my first play through gone straight for the 8th day route the difficulty jump is noticeable.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
I thought Pierce only applied to physical attacks.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Aithon posted:

Well, that's good to know. I did think the damage was high compared to how unbearable I thought it would be, but I thought I just put enough points in. On my mage build.
:suicide:

The thing is you want strength on a mage build because the most useful attack for dealing with late game bosses requires having 10 strength as without holy damage certain bosses are all but unbeatable.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

projecthalaxy posted:

On a related note, when do you start locking in which ending/Day 8 you are doing? I am looking to go with Yuzu's route for my first run, both because I like her and I have heard it mentioned here as the best one for beginners, and am wondering when I need to start worrying about qualifying/locking out of specific endings. I've always been very pro-her ideas in dialogue choices and such, and always watch her scenes when she comes up on the map, do I need to do anything else?

As long as everybody survives then at the end of day 6 you get a choice about whose path to go on.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
So what level should I be for the final boss of Naoya's day 8 route? Also just one more battle and I will have completed the no deaths title challenge. Hopefully that 200 point bonus will be worth the amount of frustration I had when it came to dealing with that self imposed restriction.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

deadly_pudding posted:

This would be incredible. Yu just rolls up to Shadow Yosuke and steamrolls it with Beelzebub or something.

Except, I'm pretty sure he 100%'d social links in the first series? I kinda hope they just do more interesting fights, instead of "poo poo, let's dodge all these explosions while our Personas go at it."

Other then the times you use weapons them that is what a persona fight is. Trying not to die whilst mythical figures pummel repressed human emotion.

Also I just beat Overclocked and started a NG+ with the carry demon option. I didn't know it was possible to deal that type of damage outside of a Disgaea game.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

CrusherEAGLE posted:

Just bought persona 4 golden... should I follow a guide for this or go in blind? Anything I should know before I start?

Look up a guide to the answers for the cooking/questions/tests sections but other then that just go with whatever feels right.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Cake Attack posted:

The biggest obstacle to completing the Tower S-link is the fact that no cares about Shu and his problems.

Which is more then made up for due to just how broken some of the Tower persona are.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Nate RFB posted:

Devil Survivor 1's plot is basically a SMT one. Demons invade Tokyo, it gets sealed, and society slowly breaks down. It's not bad, though the main hook for me was the gameplay which is very addictive (and frustrating). DS2 is pretty much just as dumb as you're imagining but if you wind up liking DS1's gameplay enough you might not care and still want to play it.

Devil Survivor does do a couple things really well though in terms of plot. With the death clocks it hammers in the fact that unless something is done then people are going to die and in some cases they are going to start dying fast. On a more general note it shows quite well the slow decay of order within the encirclement. At the start a few criminals have gotten hold of the app and while demons were an issue, the number of demons was relatively low. Then as time progressed everything just started to fall apart as various groups went head to head just to prove what they could do. Hell, one of the best fights in the game in terms of story telling is during the last couple days when a demon summoner just flips out and starts attacking people just because he knows that everybody is going to start dying tomorrow due to the death clock so he might as well destroy as much stuff as he can before he dies as well.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Excels posted:

Strega were loving hardcore. Adachi is not even a tenth as good a villain as Evil Jesus.

The idea of Strega is great. Evil Jesus was just a pathetic villain who depended on cutscene powers to achieve anything, unlike Adachi who actually moved the plot along.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Freak Futanari posted:

Junpei is literally a rapist. It's hosed up, but it's true.

What scene brought you to this conclusion? I recently finished the game and I don't remember anything like that.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Strange Quark posted:

People just got too used to the two month turnaround on SMT IV.

Which seems strange due to Fire Emblem Awakening taking a year about to translate. I know they are different companies but it should still be noted that a good translation takes time and the more likely story behind SMT IV is that before releasing the game in Japan they had already started to translate the game for the U.S.

Hunt11 fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jun 11, 2014

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

MrAristocrates posted:

Super. Well, I'm holding onto an old save so hopefully I can just reset if I gently caress up.

I kept an old save as well and I am glad I did because I ended up messing up big time by the end though in hindsight I am glad I got to restart as that meant I got to fight a couple more interesting boss battles and in general I had a clearer idea about what I was doing.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
For the no extra battle title in Devil Survivor Overclocked do the new game + battles disqualify you for the achievement?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
I prefer Anti all, Dual Shadow, and an elemental amp of the most appropriate element. When combined with Yin Magic or whatever the X2 damage boost creates an overwhelming offense which can just nuke anything that is not a final boss.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

projecthalaxy posted:

Are all the Day 7/Ending routes doable on a first playthrough? I'm at 1700 on Day 6, trying to decide my route and I think I might just wuss out and do Yuzu's this time (I've been told its the easiest) and then come back on NG+ loaded for bear to do the ending I actually want (Amane). The game is making it sound much harder. My team is level 45-47 for reference.

You should be able to handle any route the first time through as long as you are willing to grind at times.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Nomadic Scholar posted:

Though Devil Survivor doesn't exactly have a TDE equivalent in it's plethora of endings from what I remember.

If you fight the ultimate bonus boss then you will have basically achieved TDE in a different manner then in SMT Nocturne.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

hubris.height posted:

Thanks! Is there content only available in NG+? I feel like I haven't gotten a straight answer.

There is a bonus boss and persona.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

cmykjester posted:

Ugh I'm so loving frustrated with the final boss of Persona 3 FES I lost to him like four times now and I have no idea what I am doing wrong. Three times I got near the end where he starts to do that terrible rain attack and it always seems to gently caress me.

I'm like level 79 with some pretty good personas going with Akihito, Mitsuru, and Yukari. Should I grind some more with different characters or are there some special personae I should look for?

Or should I just watch the ending on YouTube and take the hit to my "gamer cred"

Do you have the bonus dungeon unlocked yet? If so then just go grind in there as all the shadows are really strong and give a nice amount of exp, especially if you can exploit their weaknesses which at this point should not be a problem.

Out of curiosity what Personas do you have and what level are your teammates? In terms of party composition I think Junpei is a better choice then Akihito due to having regeneration. Also if you have an earlier save file then you could also go about making ultimate weapons for your entire team which should also help out as they give +10 to all stats.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
I always kind of like Isabeau. Everybody else in the party are these people picked by destiny to determine the fate of the world and stuck in the middle is just an ordinary person trying to make sense of it all. Also she is maybe the bravest character in all of SHTIV in the chaos/law routes as she chooses to willingly fight both the MC (who by that point everybody had come to terms with how dangerous he is) and the most powerful entity of either chaos or law on the planet by herself.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
For the most part battles in SMTIV are quick and to the point. Either you wipe out the boss as soon as possible for the longer the battle goes on, the greater the chance the boss smirks and when that happens you are royally hosed.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Sodium Chloride posted:

How is the extra day stuff in Overclocked?

I thought the 7th day wrapped everything up nicely. Do you just go on a rampage on the 8th day or something?

There are four 8th day paths, one for law, one for escape, and two for chaos. In the law path the focus is stamping out the last remaining issues within the zone before the messiah goes on out to bring the whole world under god's rule. In the escape path your party is forced at gunpoint to go back into the zone and actually sort everything out. The chaos routes both deal with the start of the war against god, with the point of divergence being weather you try and protect the humans who are forced by the Angles to fight you or do you kill everything in your way.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

TheKingofSprings posted:

This is not possible

Devil Survivor Overclocked might have an issue with that statement.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Montegoraon posted:

It could be RP related. The arcana could represent a general way a character is supposed to act. If a person shows a strong affinity for an additional arcana through roleplaying, the person running the game could reward them with the option to change to a new persona with the same level, but a different skillset, at any time afterwards. Could be very handy in a pinch. But if a person just abandons their original arcana, or RPs poorly, the GM might reverse their arcana, giving a big penalty to their combat ability until they complete a special quest or something, at which point they either go back to their original, or are forced to change to a new one.

So the 3.5 Paladin mechanic then?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Lunchmeat Larry posted:

this is extremely stupid

Is this your first SMT game?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Is it just me or is it a lot easier to create broken demons without trying in DS Record Breaker then in Overclocked? I wasn't even trying and I ended up with such demons as a Thor with 31 strength on the third day and a demon with both Bufdyne and Ice Boost on the fourth.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Nuffkins posted:

No, 8 strength is ideal. That lets you use Holy Dance. Next good skill with a strength requirement is Repel Phys at 15. But only go for Repel Phys after Mag and Vit are maxed (which will never happen anyway).

I thought the ideal strength was 10 for the holy moves.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Ibram Gaunt posted:

Are you doing good or evil overlord

Considering the bitching about escorting missions I would assume so.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Captain Walker posted:

Does vanilla DeSu2 have the skill ULTIMATE HIT or was that added in Record Breaker? I put it on Jungo with Rage Soul and he just loving ruins everybody's day. I'm a little giddy imagining the carnage when I can afford to give him a couple of decent demons.

Where do you get that skill? That sounds like the most hilariously broken skill in the game.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

The only sin greater is playing male Robin. Shameful. Might as well play Default Soldier Male Shepard.

I am sorry that you are stuck with the inferior Morgan.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Even at her worse though, Midori never reaches classic megaten crazy

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Tae posted:

That was my first idea, but one of the escort targets (who will get attacked twice no matter what) got RNGed and got killed in those two attacks.

Does Switch work with NPC?

Realistically that is the only real point of the switch ability. Also look to get petrify as that is a great way of pinning enemy teams down.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Tae posted:

I juts finished a mission that reminds me why I never finished the original DS.

loving awful mission where Mari has to deal the final blow to a powerful physical enemy that attacks twice and heals from it, I can't kill the enemy, and have to pray Mari and Kaido live long enough while ALSO preventing the enemy from escaping.

Literally reset like 6 times and it was beaten because RNG allowed Mari to critical her attack.

gently caress DS1.

As has been mentioned, petrify and switch is your friend. Get a team consisting of two basilisks and one character with petra eyes and unleash them on the vampire. Chances are one of them will hit and then Mari can finish it at her leisure. For Kaido just use an avatar demon to switch with him when he gets to low health and you should be fine.

Honestly I kind of like how difficult it is to keep people alive because that is the primary concern of the characters, not the lords of bel or the self defense force, but just trying to keep alive as the world quite literally goes to hell.

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Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
I am glad to know that legally I can not exist.

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