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El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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This has been a good year for metal, IMHO.

The new Suidakra (Book of Dowth) and Wolfchant (Call of the Black Winds) are both great. Reminds me of why I used to really like Mellodeath/Gothenburg.

Gr31lly posted:

Oh and if anyone wants an album that's modern, but very much heavy/speed/power metal then look no further than the new Portrait.

Most people will batter on about the King Diamond/Mercyful Fate influences, but this new album really smacks more of Iron Maiden and NWOBHM in general as well as 80s power/speed to me.

This reminds me of Hibria but with more Iron Maiden and less Helloween.

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El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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What bands should I look into if my favorite band is Sigh and lately I've been listening to Summoning, Aes Dana, Kataxu, Morker and Agalloch.

Because conventional wisdom says these are all black metal bands, but I tend to not like 99% of black metal people recommend me.

Not Very Metal posted:

I encourage everyone to check out Orchid, if they haven't done so already. Spot-on Sabbath worship, done well.

Orchid are top notch. If you like them you should get the demo that Age of Taurus put out last year, its in the same vein if not a little more doom.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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The best Blind Guardian song is the live version of Valhalla. In which Hansi decides he's done singing, and the crowd and the drummer keep going for a good two minutes.

I know I've said this in the thread already. But man the new Wolfchant keeps growing on me. Its like everything I wanted from the new Amon Amarth album but didn't get.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Its also useful to remember that while the people in this thread tend to have wide ranging metal taste a lot of people don't.

I have a friend who really likes bands like Dream Evil, Freedom Call and Weird Slough Feg, but who cant stand any of the more "extreme" genres of metal to the point that he doesn't even really like Black era Metallica or Soundtrack to Your Escape era In Flames (which is the kind of stuff I used to like when I was super into cheesy power metal). He's the kind of guy who I cant just drag to a random metal show on a weekend like a lot of my metal loving pals.

Genre distinctions are very important to these kind of people, who don't have crossover taste.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Man, what happened to Ablazer? They released an awesome as gently caress demo a couple years back, and now just recently released a track from their new album and it bloooooooooooows.

I don't understand why you would change your band concept from Wintersun-lite to a really generic "core" sound.

Reminds me of what happened to Hibria who put out the best modern speed/NWOBHM album and then two albums of pure undiluted poo poo.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Does anybody have a link to that artist who did all the hip-hop/rap group logos in the style of classic metal ones? I cant find it on google and it was pretty awesome.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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So I've been reading some books about the history of metal lately. And sort of listening to various bands they mention that I haven't listened to much of while I read.

Am I crazy or is Stryper actually pretty good? Against the Law is actually kind of awesome.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Speaking of synths, what ever happened to Keldian? They were my favorite cheesy power metal band that wrote songs about spaceships.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Gamma Nerd posted:

Speaking of things that kick tons of rear end, I want to know if there is a better power metal album than Lost Horizon's second album (their first album is also great). Only thing that comes close to it in the genre that I've heard was Temple of Shadows by Angra.

Hibria's album Defying the Rules is 100% platinum coated awesome.

The rest of their output is pretty sub-par, but that one album is really awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyq8AKVfLC8


I have weakness for Power Metal about Sci-Fi. So I may like this Keldian album more than it deserves.
Keldian - Heavens Gate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reBuz97GgBM

Also on the subject of Manila Road: Warlord are awesome, and more people need to listen to Warlord.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Between a new Skeletonwitch and Summoning album were like one Sigh release away from 2006 era Me being in musical heaven (2014 can't come soon enough).

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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QPZIL posted:

It was cool the first time I listened to it, but I really haven't liked much they've done since Beyond the Permafrost. That album has so many catchy parts and things about each song that were memorable. Ever since then, they've just been suffering from Marduk Syndrome - nothing but fast riffs without a lot of substance.

Granted, they've had some glints of brilliance in each album, and there's a few things I like about the new album, but in general I just don't like it as much.

This is how I feel about Doomriders as well. The band is still great, and what I've heard from the new album is pretty good, but their first album (and that split they did with Boris) is just sooooooooo good.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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DeusExMachinima posted:

Hahaha. Okay one more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDTqxn6KCNs

Really, the whole first CD of Garage Inc. is pretty good.

That has pretty much the best comments of any Youtube video ever.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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What's the general opinion of Monkey3?

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Dead Man Posting posted:

Any suggestions for albums similar to Empyrium - Songs of Moors and Misty Fields?

Also have they upgraded their vocals since then?

EDIT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhETuf3SMG8

Xandoom posted:

Does anyone have reccomendations for folk metal like Agalloch?

All Y'all need to go find a copy of my favorite metal album of all time:

Summoning - Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame
http://youtu.be/lgNLcy-LB98

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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The new Iron Mask album is a special kind of bad that can only be achieved by mediocre symphonic power metal bands deciding they really want to be Saxon.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
When I was 15 I was going to concerts every weekend to see bands like Murder City Devils and Cro-Mags and I'm a small daintyperson. I think your brother can handle Amon Amarth.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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You guys missed two of the greatest cheese metal concept albums ever:

Freedom Call - The Crystal Empire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFahdfjZEHQ
It's based on some book that I don't think has ever been published in English.

Hibria - Defying The Rules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8WjP7JXCMM
It's about fighting ninjas on motorcycles in the post cyberpocalypse. There other work is extremely disappointing in comparison to how awesome this album is.

See also: The Tain by Horslips

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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As far as metal concerts go this is one of the only ones I own (on blueray, it was insanely expensive when it came out) and its loving awesome. X-Japan were a really good rock/speed metal band from Japan, they went on hiatus in early 1998 and this was there last show ever with the original guitarist (who committed suicide or was maybe murdered).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NVEpqTTjkY

Dat fuckin solo.

There's also the live version of Valhalla from the Blind Guardian live DVD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_nmJgNcems

In which Hansi is a big baby who doesn't want to do an encore, so the drummer and crowd do it themselves.

I'm also a big fan of Iron Maiden's Rock in Rio DVD/album, but thats because its got great mixing for crowd vocals that actually captures the feel of being in a concert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRlsHMCSaW0

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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I believe this fits here, because Guilty Gear is the most metal videogame:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ9Cd4MKqHs
and it's engrish soundtrack is endearing.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Apparently Conan is releasing a new album? I always thought they were kinda repetitive and boring, even for a Doom band.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Nordick posted:

I came across one of the more embarrassing music videos I've seen in a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd9FVBvEWHI

Have fun.

(my favourite is that big-rear end USB symbol totally mystic and arcane sigil on the floor.)

This sucks because See You In Hell is a pretty great power metal meets buttrock album. More bands need to rip off Dream Evil is basically what I'm saying.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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When I work out I listen to trashy christcore like War of Ages and hardcore stuff like Dangers and Blood for Blood. Or Volbeat because Volbeat is always cool.

Also, the new Sinbreed album is sounding pretty good if you like that whole cheesy buttrock power metal thing.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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It's Manowar, come on people.
It's loving MANOWAR

Other bands play, Manowar kills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np4mo3-2hAw

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Dirt posted:

So this band Noire, sorta sounds like Orchid/Morningrise era Opeth mixed with hints of Storm of the Light's Bane era Dissection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTBevwgJnFU


I'm impressed. I always wanted someone make some new music with that same sort of Morningrise vibe.

TBH I'm getting way more Kalmah than Dissection here. If you like them you'd probably like Miasthenia. There are a lot (and I mean a lot) of bands still going for that style, see also: Divine Symphony, Atra Vetosus.

You should also really look into the Chinese/Mongolian/Non-Japanese Asian black metal scene right now. There are a lot of bands doing cool stuff in a melodic black metal with guitars and folk instruments style right now. Tengger Cavalry is the one that's big in the west right now (because they are loving rad).

El Estrago Bonito fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Mar 9, 2014

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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I guess 3 Inches of Blood is technically Canadian but I like most of their stuff pre the most recent album which I thought wasn't as good. Premonition of Pain is a loving JAM though.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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I think the worst metal is when you can hear a really talented person in a band that sucks. My friend always jokes that he wishes Van Canto would break up so we could get 3-5 new metal bands with decent vocalists instead of one mediocre band with a shitload of them.

Good example would be Artas who are mediocre even for generic metalcore but they have a great drummer who really needs to get into a better band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqWOuRTJg_Y

Also bad is bands that release good poo poo and then just sort of peter out. Like Ablazer released an awesome demo in 2010: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWSCH6GsfqA and then after that just released some new stuff but it wasn't very good, were briefly signed to a label that tried to make them metalcore for like four months then they left and released more new stuff but it all sounds very Cradle of Filth/Soundtrack to your Escape era In Flames and doesn't have the really forceful punch their early stuff had.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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I think the vocal work in Elvenking has more to do with symphonic metal fans eating that poo poo up. It's kind of like Nightwish in that I admit that the vocalist can sing well (I really like The Winter Wake barring like one or two songs) but it's clear he just doesn't do it all the time. It's also clear it's an artistic choice of some sort I just really don't like it (for the Nightwish example, Nemo sounds pretty awesome, Over the Hills and Far Away sounds silly to me in comparison).

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Bertrand Hustle posted:

A goon friend just linked me this video, saying, "Have you seen what Japan is doing to metal?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIKqgE4BwAY

:japan:

Japan has been doing terrible things to metal for a while now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo62K60iKGo

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Let's not forget Loudness who were definitely the first metal band from Japan I ever heard of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5yMKdNUGEw

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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It's sad that the recent crop of Metallica stuff has made me wish they were still a mediocre radio friendly hard rock band. In retrospect I would rather listen to Until It Sleeps than whatever that 8 minute long borefest of a song is. But Metallica has always had issues with riff salad. I remember back in the day reading an interview with the band where they were asked what they would do different if they could and they universally agreed "make Battery 5 songs instead of one song with 5 songs worth of riffs."

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Woolie Wool posted:

Since people have been talking about Japanese metal recently, is there any Japanese power metal that's actually balls-out METAL with really forceful vocals and an emphasis on guitar riffs rather than treacly J-pop-influenced singing and synth overload?

The band you're looking for is Arcadia.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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The new Sabaton doesn't sound like poo poo, actually this new track is probably the best song they've released in a long time (OK, OK, I actually really like their entire last album) it's like a perfect blend of synth obsessed era Dio and Rebellion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYWdgBtSM8s

Between this and the new Epica and Edguy it looks like a good couple months for cheesy power metal. I really dislike Epica but this new "Kalmah meets Sirenia" thing they have going on their new album is pretty good in my book.

The new Iron Savior wasn't awful either, just above average. It reminds me of Highland Glory (who are the best cheesy power metal band you've never heard of, Cradle to the Brave is a work of genius).

Edit: gently caress it, listen to this band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQrvViwRZlQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKRb-JjHwO0

Double Edit: HOLY KNIGHTS RELEASED A SECOND ALBUM WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS WHEN IT HAPPENED THEY ARE THE BEST TERRIBLE ITALIAN POWER METAL GROUP

El Estrago Bonito fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Mar 30, 2014

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Sabaton didn't break up they've just replaced every member but the singer in the last three years.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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A lot of Symphonic Metal bands get progressively harder as their careers go on. Epica, Nightwish, Sirenia and Amorphis all got substantially harder over their careers.

Actually Dark Tranquility is a good example. They started out as pretty generic melodeath/Cradle of Filth stuff and ended up in a more black metal influenced place. There new stuff sounds more like Amon Amarth than anything. It's true that their earlier stuff was more heavy too, but it was pretty light on guitars.

Circa 2002 "boring In Flames soundalike era":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU-ra1ffmTE

Circa 2013 "still boring but less lovely era":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTkwuyb_PLc

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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MrBling posted:




Trying to decide if I want to go to this. €140 is kinda a lot of money.

Black Book Lodge is pretty good but a lot of the openers are pretty average quality filler for a 140 euro show.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Kumbamontu posted:

Looking for some suggestions to expand my musical horizons. If my favorite 3 death metal songs are the following:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaQEW1sMm94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87JmUEN-vlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9iO4gfBv-Y

What else should I be listening to?

edit: I just learned via wikipedia that apparently CFTG is considered deathcore. Whatever, question still stands!

Kalmah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jmj_ochRjk

Because more people should listen to Kalmah.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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If you're posting Amon Amarth does that make it Melo Monday?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_3r_aFguPY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XVATLAuYWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScR7zo-kAvg

I really like bands that sound like Summoning. Even if Summoning is still better than all of them.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Nordick posted:

Yes! I'm gonna use that as an excuse to post this one more time. Extremely pro click if you like some cheesy Finnish melodeath.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WNdYVM0rRA

I have a theory that every band full of white metal dudes who write music about Japan is secretly awesome:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_79fCcMiSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6u4QOfQdzA

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Wait, there is a new Elvenking track and it's not terrible :psyduck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqfVDfa_FN8

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El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Best power metal track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoYSwGNGksQ

And because I have to pimp Highland Glory whenever anyone brings up power metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVSqQBQmQL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbTtF12tkB0

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