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El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Does Sacrilege* count as Doom Metal? Because they are kickin' rad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNikrmTxwm8






*Naturally there are two metal bands named Sacrilege, one is loving awesome, the other is like a less good version of Kalmah, or a more good version of In Flames you pick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS29NILr2OA

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El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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This is going to be a really depressing year if the League of Legends power metal album is the best selling metal album of the year (There is no doubt, it's going to break a shitload of sales records for metal albums mark my words).

http://na.pentakillmusic.com/en/

I mean, it could be a lot worse. It's just extremely generic Euro style power metal. But still, I have to hate it on principle.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
If you just want the Folk parts of Eluveitie then you should probably go listen to Faun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN60xXj10Fo

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
So the new Misery Index is OK? My friend really likes them or something and this one seems to have pretty good riffs. I tend to lean more towards the Boltthrower side of Grind/Death stuff but the mixing on the bass is really good on this album (something that's really rare in Grind especially).

Also the new Goatwhore is pretty ace. I'm a big fan of Doomriders and this sounds a lot like that but a little but harder.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
So, uh, yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu5xcOwAaGE

That's certainly a thing.

Crazy Larry posted:

Honestly my favorite Blind Guardian album is Live. I mean, A Night at the Opera has my favorite songs, but I'm not a huge fan of the production on it. I really don't like their habit of overlaying Hansi's voice to create a hundred Hansi chorus or whatever - he has such an amazing voice that I really feel like they would be better off just leaving it alone and simplifying the production overall honestly.

If Imaginations Through the Looking Glass counts then that one is the best, but I don't know if live stuff really counts.

El Estrago Bonito fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jul 19, 2014

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Hulk Krogan posted:

When Sorrow Sang is the best song Blind Guardian has ever written.

This.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, best guitar tone.

This would be true except...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkvEDAg6MWw

My opinion on Blind Guardian is pretty similar to White Stripes, on album they are pretty average to decent bands, but on live they are loving amazing (see: Last Candle, Truth Doesn't Make a Noise). I'd argue the same for Maiden too, but really they just cut a really good live album and their on album stuff is still great, it's just any would pale in comparison to Rock in Rio. Where with WS and BG I feel a lot of their songs are pretty boring on album but much more robust when done live.

I'd also make the argument that Demons and Wizards is a fundamentally better band then Blind Guardian is, just because their songs are shorter and much better put together for the most part. I much rather listen to Dorian or Love's Tragedy Asunder than most of the BG catalog.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Spanish Manlove posted:

RIP Oderus, I already lamented with this:



The other day I went over to a friends house and we were just hanging out. All of a sudden she just looks at me and say "I just remembered you like Metal, there is a thing we need to drink!" and I am a little worried because she is A) A Huge wine person and B) Does not listen to metal at all.

What she had was Hammerfall Wine.

They bought it at a flea market or something a year or so ago. It was not as awful as you would imagine Hammerfall branded wine to be. It was kinda weak for a Barberra (which is a personal favorite of mine) but as far as licensed wines go it was stellar.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Iceberg-Slim posted:

I don't know how I've missed out on this until recently, but I'm totally addicted to this stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y9TsxeWGt0 (Summoning - Old Morning's Dawn)

Yeah it's pretty good, I'm more preferential to Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame, but that's just me.
http://youtu.be/lgNLcy-LB98

Re:Kalmah

I don't think they sound much like Metallica. More like Storm of Light's Bane/Somberlain era Dissection, and Unleashed.

El Estrago Bonito fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Sep 4, 2014

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Alvarez IV posted:

I hate to ask about intangible subjective qualities like this, but what bands are best for evoking the feeling of magic rituals? Not like "sacrifice a virgin on a flaming pentagram drawn in blood" rituals, but closer to "stab the athame into the chalice and dance naked in the woods" rituals. I haven't been huge into metal since I was twelve, but I'm looking for stuff with the feeling of Sabbath, Rainbow, or prison-era Burzum (even though it's not really metal). Zeppelin also counts, although that's less metal than Burzum.

A lot of the suggestions made so far have been good, but you should give these a look as well:

Gun - Gun
http://youtu.be/q5hP0G-7zaM

Buffalo - Volcanic Rock
http://youtu.be/n31npocv18o

Pentagram - Day of Reckoning
http://youtu.be/Rgh51n6THso

Sigh - Imaginary Soniscape
http://youtu.be/IIJ56d-8yPs

Wo Fat - The Conjuring
http://youtu.be/0yCzN7pPQHE

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
They seem OK but that guitar tone is reaaaaaaaaaally boring and flat sounding. Say what you will about 3IoB, but they had great guitar sound.
http://youtu.be/XUd4Cbc49mg

Speaking of metal bands with great loving bass, Doomriders kick rear end, everyone should listen to them more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWFyNOLSXjA#t=2649

I also don't know if I've asked this here before but why do metal dudes love Volbeat so much? Don't get me wrong, I like Volbeat they are pretty cool dudes and stuff, but every metal person I know will not shut the gently caress up about them. I saw my buddy who got me into awesome harder metal stuff and even HE was super into them. I know Metal Sucks loves them tons but I didn't think they had the serious reach to make it a "thing" (it's also possible Oregon is just stupid in order to make up for how good our Black Metal is).

El Estrago Bonito fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Sep 19, 2014

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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As far as power metal goes Beneath These Waves is one of my favorite songs just because I'm a huge Moby Dick nerd.

And if we're going with songs about Vikings, we can't miss one of the best:
http://youtu.be/_iQIDj_IXLA

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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The camera work in this video is actually pretty good:
http://youtu.be/L397TWLwrUU

rxcowboy posted:

Do you like OSDM? Want to listen to an awesome older band that isn't talked about much here?

Listen to this:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Na9-41mg4

Unleashed was amazing, and it always bugs me how no one really talks about them. Sure their sound wasn't ground breaking but they made a few drat fine albums.

When I was like 17 this and Dissection's Storm of the Light's Bane rarely left rotation on my Winamp.

I'm pretty sure Storm of the Light's Bane and Where No Life Dwells are responsible for how much I love Kalmah.

http://youtu.be/6G9tEqqMqnw

Album is still some quality stuff IMHO, and I rarely say that about 99% of the metal I jocked in my teen years.

El Estrago Bonito fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Sep 26, 2014

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Hammer Floyd posted:

I always thought this was the worst video in the history of "Metal"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXaobvYqWsw

Just...wow.

We have to exclude hair metal from this because otherwise we'll be here all day with the entire WASP video collection.
I can forgive Poison and WASP because they directly lead to the video for High Speed GTO which is awesome
http://youtu.be/QDih39uY76o

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

Holy poo poo are they like 12? I guess the bassist was used to driving them all around.

Not saying this is bad. Actually I'm really impressed. Shame they split up.

I don't know if you've followed the drama involving that band, but it's safe to say they are permanently 13.
It's pretty much a spot on parody of WASP tho: http://youtu.be/TsoLb-E7oy8

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
I hadn't heard the newish Battle Beast album yet.

Not as awful as I thought it would be, but then again I really like Hybria and Katana.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Varg posted:

Gojira live last night holy gently caress :stare: so amazing. Sucks they only got a 45 min set. Kvelertak was fun, and Mastodon was better than expected. I need to get some legit live music specific earplugs though. I hate listening with normal ones and i don't think I should be standing in front of walls of speakers anymore without them

I dunno, maybe I hit an off night but I saw Mastodon on the Crack the Skye tour and was bored as gently caress. I seriously ended up at a Christian metal show headlined by Demonhunter and War of Ages like a week later and was way more entertained.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Vincent posted:

I don't know if I should ask this in the recomendation thread or this one, but can you guys/gals give me some good female-fronted metal bands to listen to? I'm looking for more modern bands, since this site covers a lot of older stuff (and is more slanted towards heavy metal). Black, Thrash, whatevs, I'm game.

Sigh is like half female fronted.

Also Battle Beast if you like Hammerfall/Sonata Arctica style power metal.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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DEAR RICHARD posted:

I worked security at that show and it was fun as gently caress. Municipal Waste sucks though.

They are the definition of a band that has had one good album and then coasted forever on people hoping they would put out another one. At least Cro Mags had like two and a half good albums.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
One of the dudes from Black Tusk died? That sucks, they were a good band.
http://youtu.be/u1AV9-K0Lj4

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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AgentJotun posted:

Celtic Frost only have 2 or 3.

Celtic Frost was really influential but I think you'd struggle to put together 2 solid albums if you used their entire catalog. Maybe I just really dislike CF but I find most of their songs to be really just average to OK.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
Good Folk Metal poo poo:

Guahaihoque - The Return of the Ancient Gods
http://youtu.be/mdv-kfdX1Qc
Old School Folk Metal band in the vein of Summoning's Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame via pre-columbian America as opposed to dark ages Scandinavia/Tolkien.


Furor Gallico - Furor Gallico
http://youtu.be/HFTjiV4J7T4
Like a better version of Eluveitie IMHO


Leshak - Chertovorot
http://youtu.be/uPmMbXp1cLw
Really solid album, their other stuff is also pretty decent but I like this one the best.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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MrBling posted:

I was refreshing the music library on my phone and remembered that Razor is cool and good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N2f1Tzdigo

Razor, Heavy Load and Oz are my favorite 80's metal acts no one cares about anymore.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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DeusExMachinima posted:

These guys remind me of Kamelot, I like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYHm-F2rV00

Morton is my go to "Totally not Kamelot" band:
http://youtu.be/ftLdUFcClbw
http://youtu.be/bXLckt23bt4

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
Good to see that Battle Beast continues to average two songs per album about Berserk.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Gamma Nerd posted:

Yeah, is that Nosferatu Zodd on the album cover?

I think its just a winged version of their lion character that's on their other album. I'm personally waiting for the reveal that all of their songs, including Touch In The Night, are secretly about Berserk and it's been a rock opera project all along.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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This new Orden Ogan album sounds both bad and also like it was mixed in a bathroom.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Do Slough Feg's Hardworlder and Traveller count as space metal?
http://youtu.be/NiHpfugCboI
http://youtu.be/gv6bw10es2c
http://youtu.be/C6Vnl2KM7XU

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
Speaking of Metal bands with bizarre political beliefs, whats the band with the biggest gulf between how good the band is and how lovely their opinions about stuff are?

I was thinking Dissection, since Storms of the Light's Bane and The Somberlain are great albums but then he murdered a dude in the name of a satanic cult/group of black magic sorcerers.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Stoat posted:

Light of day, day of darkness came on shuffle last night and I listened to the whole thing and now I'm bummed out Greed Carnation stopped. Anyone know of anything similar?

How do you feel about Insomnium?

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Was never a big BtBaM fan, but during their big heyday I was much more into stuff like Doomriders and other more hardcore leaning things.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Big Willy Style posted:

Can anyone recommend places to find shows in Japan in English? Lean towards death metal and grindcore or crust and power violence or d beat or whatever.

If you're going to be in Tokyo then just wander the club sections of Shibuya, k-cho, Shimokitazawa and Ike-bo and look for posters. Kabukicho is the best place IMHO for rock clubs/live houses but if you're going with you wife/family/whatever you might not want to go there since it's pretty Yakuza'd out and is wall to wall brothels, strip clubs, hand job parlors and maid cafes. Ikebukuro is my favorite part of Japan, it's sort of a more "real" part of Tokyo as hipster as that sounds. It's a shopping area but it's less plastic than Shibuya, it has a red light district but it's less touristy than Kabukicho. Shimokitazawa is the "music district" as designated by the tourist guides, there are a lot of good shows there and most importantly a lot of super niche clubs and performances. But really the important thing to remember about Tokyo is that it's super safe, like, way safer than any major American city past 1AM. You can get locked down by the trains but just remember that most McDonalds are 24/7 and you can basically grab coffee/tea in them and crash for a few hours until the train line starts again.

http://www.tokyogigguide.com/

Is the best place to look for stuff in English, most clubs that have websites are in partial English as well. Also remember if you're using google maps or something: almost all these clubs are below ground or on the second story. Usually they have a door man, but he also usually looks like an unshaven bum so YMMV.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Vintersorg posted:

Would Pollstar work?

The issue is that Tokyo has a loving huge local music scene since it's one of the largest cities on earth and Pollstar generally only lists big name acts headlining real venues. On any given night in Tokyo there will be between 25 and 200 shows spread across the districts I listed and sometimes more, most of them happen in Live Houses which are music themed bars that are usually located underground and can hold like a couple hundred people tops. They tend to be a bit pricey if you're used to US concert prices too, not hugely expensive but in the area of ~25 bucks and a lot of places are still strictly cash only. The bigger ones that are above ground are more theater sized but they generally have crowds that are more focused around popular music, so if you don't want to see pretty boy pop rock/metal or female fronted dance pop you probably won't find anything there since they are mainly targeted at the Shibuya party crowd of young rich women and the Japanese equivalent of a bro. And really you shouldn't see "real" bands in Japan because it's so loving expensive. Hawkwind are playing in Japan and tickets start at 90USD and that's pretty cheap. Especially when there are hundreds of awesome unknown unsigned bands who play the clubs every single weekend and so many of them are super cool. Basically Tokyo is rock n roll as gently caress right now and I really wan't to go back just to spend money every night bumming around Tokyo listening to awesome poo poo.

El Estrago Bonito fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Apr 7, 2015

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Pope Guilty posted:

Any recommendations for somebody who likes Powerwolf?

Battle Beast is pretty rad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKwRyzMQ13Q

Their only weakness is maybe writing too many songs about the Manga/anime Berserk.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Caladan Brood is OK. Maybe I'm just old and boring but whenever I listen to them about halfway through an album I usually quit and go listen to Summoning instead because while they are very similar bands I can't stand the really soft sound mastering on Caladan Broods stuff, I much prefer the crisp older black metal style that Summoning uses.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Vargatron posted:

Gentlemen, I'm looking for some guitar oriented power metal in the vein of Helloween and Hibria. In a change of pace, I'd like something non-symphonic if possible. Kind of like Iced Earth but in a major key.

If you need it to be clean, Battlebeast aren't very consistently good but they are super similar to Hibria and have some serious jams. Also Dream Evil, you'll probably like Dream Evil since you seem to have a high tolerance for corny metal and Dream Evil is the corniest of metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rdOTRBYPXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEpcS1r9-m4

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Henchman of Santa posted:

Honestly most of the worst metalcore bands are the ones leaning toward metal, like all of the lovely At the Gates clones. Stuff like Converge, Ringworm and Gaza is way better.

I like the bassist from Converge's other band much better than Converge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8upblorjUSQ

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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My AOTY is def Exercises in futility by Mgla. I realize that most people won't like that album, but I fall into a very slim margin of people for whom "Summoning with more hardcore influenced riffs" is extremely my poo poo. Second place is a tie between Black Fast -- Terms of Surrender and Tribulation - The Children of the Night, because I like dumb goofy things (my favorite metal bands right now are Dissection, Summoning and Warlord).

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El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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The Clit Avoider posted:

You have no idea what you're talking about.

My metal fan friends are also terrible people with bad taste, so my opinion on what is and isn't well received is generally pretty poor. Also basically no one I know listens to black metal and people look at me strangely if they walk into my house when it's playing. Also when I say hardcore I really mean like 90's victory records stuff. At least I get a sort of "50% speed earth crisis" vibe from a lot of the breakdown/bridge sections on the album, especially in VI. But yeah I have a lot of trouble articulating my opinions about music and I do not pretend to be any kind of expert at all.

A human heart posted:

I don't really hear much similarity between Mgla and Summoning.

I guess it's that they are both black metal but with a sort of focus on songs that sound like orcs could be marching to them, if that makes sense? I guess the best way I can put it is that it shares a lot of the same feel for me as Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame does, with a lot of songs that slowly build towards a really powerful sounding crescendo.

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