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Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


GIn talk:

I just started messing with gin about a month ago and I've tried maybe 10 brands? So far by far the best cheapo stuff I've had is Citadelle, best overall is 135 East.

I did just pick up a bottle of Barr Hill and holy crap. It's a bit pricey so I was rationing it on the rocks, but I just mixed up a g&t with it and holy poo poo. The botanicals pair up super well with the tonic and the honey aftertaste is just :discourse:

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Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


https://twitter.com/thatbilloakley/status/1553843508611403776?s=20&t=Ry26IQptXszwIRLJgIbQww

:d2a:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


tom collins with a few splashes of bitters rolled around the glass first, light on the simple syrup :discourse:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Human Tornada posted:

Does a cheap tall boy with half a lime squeezed into it count as a cocktail? If not then nothing says summer to me like the classic rum and coke in a plastic cup.

oh yeah I forgot we've been rocking Spaghetts for a couple weeks now and they own

crack a miller high life, take a swig, fill it back up with Campari, drop a lime wedge in :hai:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


that's a way better name for it tbh, but the internet calls them spaghetts and i always say it in the tim & eric voice

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


re: Campari and amari

so, I get that amari is a fairly broad class of drinks. My wife picked up a bottle of Amaro d'erbe which I haven't tried yet, but in general, are they fairly similar taste-wise or do they cover a radically different spectrum? Like I've been told that generally Campari and Aperol are fairly interchangeable in cocktails, but beyond that I have no idea.

My dad's from Argentina and he drinks Fernet-branca every night but I've actually never tried it yet, I should change that ASAP



The Polish Pirate posted:

Oh poo poo that sounds great. Might whip one up tonight

hope you enjoy lmk what you think!

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Fart Car '97 posted:

This is a Camparty. A spaghett is with Aperol

I'm seeing both versions called a spaghett, and the camparty is coming up as this but also some kind of bourbon campari punch?

I should try it with Aperol though!




thank you for the info! Got some taste tests to do this weekend :hellyeah:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


my kinda ape posted:

Argentines maintain that their Fernet tastes different than US/Italian Fernet. Supposedly theirs isn't minty. Whether or not this is true or not I don't know.

I personally think Fernet is the worst bottle I've ever bought.

lol i'm gonna ask my dad about this

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


It's more fun to say than camparty so I'm gonna keep saying it

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I actually did try it with Aperol yesterday too and I agree it's a better summer drink, though on neutral ground I much prefer it with Campari

Also I tried making a Vesper yesterday and it was pretty meh. Although my palate isn't super-well developed (I can barely ever actually taste the vermouth in a martini). I made 2 of them at once and ended up dumping the 2nd one in with some tonic and a little more Lillet, which much improved it.

Lillet blanc on the rocks, on the other hand, is freakin delicious and is definitely going into my "home from work relaxation drinks" rotation.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


yeah all the recipes I saw mentioned "well virtually every ingredient is different/unavailable now so uhhh" so my expectations weren't too high, and it's not like it's radically different from a regular martini anyway

It was mostly an excuse to pick up a bottle of Lillet :v:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Hey, is it a dick move to order multiple bitters & sodas if I'm still tipping for them? Was out with some friends who were drinking heavily and I needed to drive so I had 3 of them over an hour or so? And the bartender seemed kind of miffed. The place wasn't overly busy or anything so I dunno what the deal was.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Picked up a couple things today. Tried a bottle of Tanqueray Rangpur and...honestly, I prefer the original. The lime flavor doesn't really add anything that a fresh squeeze/wedge doesn't already do. It's also slightly weaker than the normal stuff. Tried it neat, in a G&T and a pink gin + soda.

This stuff, though:

It's very sweet, and I don't know what I would mix it with, but as a digestif on the rocks it's top-notch. They recommend drinking it alongside a coffee but I was too lazy for that, but yeah it'd be a fantastic combo.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Having no reference for Absinsthe and needing just a small quantity to try some new drinks, I made my choice entirely based on the logo

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Glad to hear I made a solid choice. Honestly it was the only one that had a 200ml bottle, not willing to drop $60 on a 750ml like that. It was I think $22, so not too bad.

I didn't even realize til I showed a pic of the label to a friend and he went "wait isn't it supposed to be green?" I guess it goes brown as it ages but it doesn't affect the flavor at all? (Actually 1 place I read said that going brown is actually a sign of better-quality stuff)

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Folx, I took a sip of the St. George's and, well, it's good as hell

What can I put that stuff into that's not too complicated? I've got Corpse Revive #2, the champagne/absinthe one, and just adding a bit to a martini. Any other suggestions?

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Death in the Afternoon more like Punch in the Face amirite

it's such a weird combination of flavors and mouthfeel; I'm a cocktail novice but it's easily the most complex and flat-out bizarre thing I've tried so far.

I think I love it?

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Decided to give cognacs a try! I've never messed with them at all. Closest I've come is using E&J VSOP in Between the Sheets, and those were delicious, so I figured I'd splurge a bit



Honestly, the Remy Martin is...OK, I guess? extremely oaky and the alcohol has a real bite. The ABK6, on the other hand, is phenomenal. Like a warm apple pie with vanilla ice cream. Will probably be excellent in some cocktails, but just fantastic and smooth as hell on its own.

The Symbole I got mostly for cooking (it was like $4 more than E&J VSOP), but it's not terrible and will probably sub in for the ABK6 when I'm too drunk to be discerning in my brandy/cognac cocktails :v:

Also picked up a bottle of this stuff:


It's really dang good! Sweeter than Campari but not as sweet as Aperol. So far I've had it straight and mixed with tonic per the bottle recommendation and both are delicious. I have a feeling it'll be super good replacing Campari in a negroni, too.


e: oh yeah, and I grabbed a bottle each of Dolin sweet and dry vermouths. Haven't opened the dry yet, but it's pretty incredible how much better the $12.99 Dolin sweet is than the $9.99 Martini & Rossi sweet!

Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Aug 21, 2022

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


That's next on my list tbh

also Dolin has a white, sweet one that I'm curious about but I dunno what I'd use it in

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


So I've been sticking to Fever Tree and dabbling with Q's regular and "spectacular" versions of tonic water but uhh



guess I'm going with Fentiman's for a while :eyepop:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Trip report: that Amaro is too sweet for a negroni. Between it and the sweet vermouth it's almost overpowering.

Maybe I'll try it wjth dry vermouth instead? It does have that earthy bitter Campari taste, and it mixed well with the gin but it needs something instead of the sweet vermouth to balance it out.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Are there any cocktails that use orange syrup? I couldn't really find anything. Wife made candied oranges and ended up with a big rear end Mason jar full of the stuff.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I was thinking "reduce triple sec and use orange syrup instead" but mixing it with vodka and skipping the triple sec entirely sounds like it could be interesting

also might try adding some to coffee, thanks for the advice!

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I just picked up a 750mL of Summum for $13.99 and it's actually really good! Very smooth and just a tiny bit of vanilla sweet.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Pander posted:

Stick with Tito's.

Tito's is solid but overhyped; if you want something in that style try Tower IMO

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


god bless fernet & coke

e: next time I re-up I'm trying the mint stuff too

e2: I do 2oz in with a regular can of Coke Zero but according to my dad back in The Home Country they do a 1:1 fernet/coke mix which is nuts lol

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Any recommendations for cocktails using St. Germain? Most of what I'm seeing from Google is "neat, or with soda or champagne"

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Toebone posted:

I like the Old fashioned riff from death & co - 2 oz gin (they call for Plymouth but I don’t have it), 1/2 oz St Germain, orange bitters and grapefruit twist.

ooh this sounds good thanks


creme de violette :argh: I dunno if I ate a fistful of flowers as a kid and got sick or something but anything violet scented/flavored is anathema to me

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Random question: does anybody have a preferred spot for looking up recipes? I've noticed major variations in terms of ingredient amounts specifically, even in well-known cocktails. Usually I check Difford's or the IBA list but even those have pretty big discrepancies.

Of course the real answer is "try all the different ratios" but just curious

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Awesome, thanks for both bits I'll try Mixel :)

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


yeah I just tried doing "only stuff I have" filter and I made a Casino, pretty solid but between the lemon juice and maraschino most of the gin botanicals were pretty drowned out

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


This is all really good info :)

I've actually been sticking with Liquor.com whenever applicable up until now!

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I made a Tuxedo #2 but used dry vermouth instead of blanc. Still really good though.

Absinthe washes are tasty as hell

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I made a Martinez with Barr Hill. It's decent, but I wish it had a little more pronounced flavor, the various sweetnesses kind of blend together I guess?

Maybe I should stick with drinking the Barr Hill neat or with soda/tonic. It's awesome on its own but hasn't really worked with any gin-based cocktail I've tried it with.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


This, on the other hand, was absolutely delicious. I went to 1oz of Lillet and left a teensy bit of absinthe in the glass after the rinse and :discourse:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


The Polish Pirate posted:

gently caress yeah what a rad bar

EDIT: I swear half the poo poo I make for myself is just some mixture of base spirit, amari, and vermouth. I guess it's why my Amari collection is now bigger than everything but whisky

I'd love to see a pic of the Amari collection tbh

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


So, I made a French 75 for the first time and it's solid, but then I made a French 125 and it was great. I used the 1oz gin (cognac for the 125),, 1/2oz lemon and syrup, and 2oz champagne (I used prosecco, whatever) recipe.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Phil Moscowitz posted:

Interesting, never heard 125. What’s it in reference to? I love a French 75. Around here it’s like a martini, if you just say French 75 it means gin, but some places make it with brandy/cognac on the menu and other places will ask which you mean. But either way it’s a French 75.

I would suggest you use good champagne if you can, as opposed to Prosecco or cava. It’s not like a mimosa. Using good champagne makes for a much better drink, I think.

I'll try it with the good stuff, thanks!

Not sure what the reference is, got it off that Mixel app someone upthread suggested.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Any recommendations on "starter" bourbons/whiskeys? I know there's a million resources out there but I've gotten great advice here.

I'm mostly going to be mixing with them; getting into enjoying them straight is a commitment I'm not quite ready to dive into :v:

e: sorry to clarify, by mixing I'm not making jack & cokes, I'm leaning into cocktails like Manhattans and the like.

Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Sep 10, 2022

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Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Thanks for the advice, all. Ended up grabbing a bottle of Wild Turkey 101 and Old Overholt Rye to start with.

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