When Footballers Go Feral: big Tom givin a horse a handbeezy

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euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Norwegian centre-back Claus Lundekvam played 357 league matches for Southampton from 1996 to 2008, and after he was forced to retire at 34 because of a serious ankle injury he fell into depression. He started drinking and using cocaine and other drugs until he was arrested for drunk driving and domestic disturbance before a UK court ordered him into rehabilitation.

Since last year he's moved back to norway to work as a pundit on tv, and he's brilliant and gets all sort of exclusive deals to visit old Southampton players (a lot of players have been at Southampton) and managers at their training grounds and it rules.

# ¿ Sep 28, 2011 14:18

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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 12:42

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Taff posted:

Ok I cant stop reading articles about Robin friday now, is the book about him - "The Greatest Footballer You Never Saw: The Robin Friday Story" any good?

It's apparently very good from what I've heard. Very funny and very tragic.

# ¿ Sep 28, 2011 17:20

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Stan Collymore is depressed and wrote a lot about it on twitter last night.

quote:

It's 4:48am in the morning(Sat 26th Nov 2011),and i'm wide awake.

I decided to tweet my own personal experience of my latest bout of Depression yesterday,and firstly wanted to thank the hundreds of messages from friends,journalists,mental health workers,doctors,and sufferers,as well as well wishers.It's very humbling to read the stories of fellow sufferers,links to blogs,and general experiences of this awful illness.

I want to elaborate on what Depression is for me,as the illness has so many facets,and varies from bout to bout ,that it can be hard to explain to a fellow sufferer,never mind someone fortunate enough to have never been afflicted!

I've spent so much time with Depression sufferers who have anxiety,irrational fear,too much sleep,not enough,that it's hard to pinpoint one "thing" that Depression is or isn't.All i know is that depending on the severity of the bout,it can be made of mainly one or all of these things,so i'll explain this latest bout,and what it's effect is.

I keep myself in really good nick,i run 10k every week day,and only not go to the gym or exercise at weekends,when i commentate on football for talkSPORT.The running i find really has helped massively,as i'm sure you guys that suffer who exercise find,the tangible release of calm,and "being on top of things" powers your internal dynamo,and keeps the black dog from the door.

Around 10 days ago however,i started to feel anxiety,which grew into irrational fear,which in turn turned into insomnia for 3 days(little sleep,and an incredibly active,negative mind),that in turn over last weekend(Swansea v Man United) into Hypersomnia,whereby my energy levels dipped to zero,and my sleep went from 8 to 18 hours overnight.

So i went from last Saturday at the gym,running 10k as i normally do,looking forward to working,to Tuesday morning being unable to lift my head from the pillow, feeling like my body had been drained of any life,my brain "full" and foggy,and a body that felt like it was carrying an anvil around.

So fit and healthy one day,mind,body and soul withering and dying the next.This to me is the most frightening of experiences,and one fellow suffers i'm sure will agree is the "thud" that sets the Depression rolling.

Once it hits,then cause and effect start to kick in.I sleep 18 hours a day,so i don't see sunlight over sometime a period of a week(my worst ever bout,i spent a month in bed),which i'm sure a doctor then would tell me makes the body shut down even further.My personal world grows smaller,i detach from friends and family,partly out of self preservation,partly not wanting them to see the man bounding around days ago,now looks visibly older,weaker and pathetic.

I eat less,my personal space gets smaller,none of the vain grooming of days before,as bathing,washing,and even going to the loo seem almost impossible.So its me,pyjamas,bed and increasingly despairing thoughts of how long this one will last,a tired,desperately tired but wildly active mind burns through its own blue touch paper until the paper ends,and there is simply nothing left.

That's the point when the practicality sets in,and not a nice one(and incredible to think when you finally get well).

Suicidal thoughts.

Thankfully i've not got to that part yet,and in my last 10 years only once or twice has this practical reality entered my head,and practicality its is,unpalatable the thought may be to many.

Why a practicality? Well,if your mind is empty,your brain ceases to function,your body is pinned to the bed,the future is a dark room,with no light,and this is your reality,it takes a massive leap of faith to know that this time next week,life could be running again,smiling,my world big and my brain back as it should be.So what do some do? They don't take the leap of faith,they address a practical problem with a practical solution to them,and that is taking their own life.And sadly,too many take that route out of this hell.

I'm typing and my brain is full,cloudy and detached but i know i need to elaborate on what i'm going through because there are so many going through this that need to know it's an illness,just an illness.Not bad,mad,crazy or weak,just ill,and that with this particular illness,for its sufferers,for family and friends who are there but feel they can't help,you can!

Patience,time,kindness and support.That's all we need.No "pull your socks up",no "get out of bed you lazy git",just acknowledge the feedback the sufferer gives,get them to go to the GP asap,and help them do the little things bit by bit.

That may seem simple but in my experience,and currently as we speak,having a bath,walking for 5 minutes in the fresh air,making a meal,all things that days before were the norm,seem alien,so friends and family can help ,just by being non judgemental,and helping in the background to get the sufferer literally back on their feet.

I hope that if you are suffering,or know someone that does,that a little insight into someone elses experiences might resonate with one or two and give them the comfort of knowing that there are millions out there like us that deal with this reality in our lives.

We contribute like everyone else,so treat us like everyone else.

You are not alone,there are millions of us.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ecoqm1

# ¿ Nov 26, 2011 11:28

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

He's a loving idiot that's what he is. It's remarkable that he even got a new chance for a team as good as Stoke, but it looks like he's well on his way ruining what he has there as well.

# ¿ Apr 30, 2012 15:02

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Saw a great french produced documentary about match fixing in football and the gambling industry. There's some people from Interpol, UEFA and economists explaining the process in great detail. It's incredibly interesting to see how the chinese mafia runs it all in cooperation with italian, balcan and turkish mafia to launder vast amounts of money. The interviews with the italian players who got busted for it is great as well, and just goes to show how corrupted the sport is at some levels. The amount of money in sports gambling is mind boggling. Also, I didn't know that match fixing was such a big problem in Belgium.

Anyway, it's called "It's a Bet! Sports and Gambling", and you can see the first 18 minutes for free at their website: http://sales.arte.tv/detailFiche.action?programId=2727&request_locale=en

# ¿ Feb 14, 2013 22:51

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Bacon of the Sea posted:

There was a stat from the match fixing blurb about how one of the questionable games had �1.6m of suspect bets, but the largest bet was �60k. That's a lot of people in the know.

The chinese and hong kong mafia has something like 10000 people making small bets for them, and its always live betting to it's almost impossible to detect. The documentary also showed some stats about the 2008 olympics had bets worth a total of 900 million euro and the 2011 CL final alone having over 1bn euros worth of bets.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2013 09:12

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

He's an idiot. Sad to see someone so talented piss away his career.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2013 10:40

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Total Meatlove posted:

I imagine he's bet on a Spurs game thinking that he was OK to do so.

Apparently he bet on Arsenal to finish above Spurs lol

# ¿ May 24, 2013 22:12

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Sad story, Kenny Samson is an alcoholic and homeless: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...d-homeless.html

# ¿ Aug 1, 2013 14:14

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

trem_two posted:

Raheem Sterling was arrested for assault last night, according to the Daily Mail.

Sky says he's been charged with "Common Assault".

# ¿ Aug 9, 2013 12:35

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Yeah I'm just gonna leave this here

Celtic striker Anthony Stokes was detained by police in Dublin over an alleged attack on an Elvis impersonator.

http://news.stv.tv/west-central/235812-celtics-anthony-stokes-detained-over-elvis-impersonator-attack/

# ¿ Aug 12, 2013 18:59

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

serious gaylord posted:

Match fixing at the highest level is a lot less prevalent than in the lower leagues. Mostly because to get a player in the Top divisions to risk their entire career will cost alot more than a 5 grand.

There's been cases in italy, spain and other big-ish leagues where top flight teams have had problems paying their players for months iirc.

It's mostly in the lower league, and most often in central/eastern europe where a lot of these things can go under the radar. I saw a documentary about it once that said Belgium has or just to have big problems with match fixing in their lower leagues.

# ¿ Nov 29, 2013 12:20

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

serious gaylord posted:

Yeah I can imagine its very prevalent in lower divisions due to the fact that its much harder for a player to turn down someone offering him 5 grand to throw a match when thats as much as he earns in a month.

I know players who play amateur football in the fourth and fifth tiers of the regional football leagues in norway that regularly receives messages from mystery profiles on facebook and twitter promising them money to lose matches, concede a lot of goals, get sent off etc. It's unbelievable that it's even possible to bet on matches from these leagues.

# ¿ Nov 29, 2013 12:52

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Yeah I don't get how that's possible. Surely the gambling companies are sensible enough to realise that if more then �100 gets placed on a match like that it's dodgy as gently caress and they should suspend betting.

In this case the most dodgy thing is that all players know each other and will always easily know all sorts of information and can bet on their own or other matches without being caught because no one cares.

# ¿ Nov 29, 2013 14:01

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

DJ Campbell has been charged as well.

# ¿ Dec 9, 2013 07:30

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Hegav posted:

It doesn't make any sense at all to assume that PL matches aren't fixed. It's pretty much the same reasoning as "there's no doping in football so there's no reason to take blood samples". All it takes is for someone to make an not too obvious own goal or maybe get a red card.

While I agree with your first sentence I wouldn't really compare it doping. Doping is much more organized on a club level while match fixing is more an individual thing. The risk is much higher in the premier league for both the players and the ones organizing it IMO. Premier League footballers in general are much better paid than players in the other top leagues, they get their wages on time as agreed and there's fewer financial issues in every aspect of the game. You can have a long and good career in the three highest tiers of english football with the chance of earning good money, I'd say that reduces the risk.

Match fixers specifically goes after players at clubs, leagues and/or countries with known financial and social problems. There's no coincidence that most of the match fixing cases that's been exposed the last few years have been in southern and eastern europe where the european financial crisis (and the corruption that follows with it) is a lot bigger than in northern european countries.

With all that said, it's still naive to believe match fixing is a problem in england but I don't think it's much of an issue in the Premier League, but more in the lower divisions.

JFairfax posted:

Matt Le Tissier already admitted to kicking the ball out for a throw in as soon as a game kicked off.

This is a widely repeated anecdote by him and is a clear example of someone trying to fix an event in a premier league game, but not the result itself.

I remember Claus Lundekvam speaking on tv saying it was usual in the PL to arrange with the other team before kick off for the first throw in or free kick and then earn a nice little chunk of cash on it.

# ¿ Dec 9, 2013 11:07

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Chinese/Hong Kong live betting, yes.

# ¿ Dec 9, 2013 12:01

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Michael Chopra is trying to get in touch with Ashley Williams, or else some texts and pics will come out or something. Sounds very dramatic.

Michael Chopra @MichaelChopra08 � May 23
@AshWills84 dm me ur number need to speak to u u no wat it's about

Michael Chopra @MichaelChopra08 � May 24
@AshWills84 listen if u don't get in touch it's all coming out iv got the texts and pics

Michael Chopra @MichaelChopra08 � May 24
@WayneRoutledge tell ur pal to get in touch with me ashley the loving mug

https://twitter.com/MichaelChopra08/with_replies

# ¿ May 28, 2014 09:31

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

TRP legend David Ngog has gone AWOL.

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Nik Postinger ‏@nikpostinger 1h
L'�quipe report that Reims striker David Ngog is AWOL, last seen six days ago on September 20 with no one able to explain his disappearance.

http://touch.metronews.fr/sport/mais-ou-est-david-ngog-le-stade-de-reims-ne-sait-pas/mniz!I8FL8JQ7mI9CM/

# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 09:24

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

The Big Taff Man posted:

They should have realised it wasnt him due to the shopping spree as Katuka is incredibly humble

# ¿ Oct 23, 2014 12:30

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

dex_sda posted:

who was that?

Kluivert?

# ¿ Oct 25, 2014 11:23

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

David James earned �20m in his career and has wasted everything. You can buy his chainsaw if you want.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/how-david-james-ended-up-with-his-memorablia-up-for-sale-9842322.html

# ¿ Nov 6, 2014 10:49

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

vyelkin posted:

Germany basically considers Scientology an illegal cult so this is unsurprising.

a bit off topic but Going Clear was a really great movie and the germans have picked the right religion to ban this time imo

# ¿ May 21, 2015 10:30

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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 12:42

euroboy: Mar 24, 2004

Julien Laurens ‏@LaurensJulien 34s35 seconds ago
Remember Mathieu Valbuena's sextape blackmail attempt? Well, Karim Benzema has been taken into police custody this morning in relation to it

What the hell

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 09:54

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