CroatianAlzheimers posted:

Your other option is a Techmarine, the Twin-Linked weapon quality, and a pile of thrones...

Hodgepodge posted:

If I remember right, Hostile Acquisitions has rules for an upgrade that lets you put a portion of your crew into cryogenic storage as need be.

Alectai posted:

How the hell are they even supposed to be playable? Don't they need to torture everything they can so their soul doesn't get slurped up?

YamiB. posted:

Fayk posted:

I would say that a reasonable basis for adding SB is that one them (the lifter/claw one) 'adds' to the strength of a user (or similar, no book in front of me) for tests, not a 'treat them as if strength is x' if I recall.

friendlyNeurotoxin posted:

(Won't derail the chat with warhammer 2e talk but said book is filled with stuff like this http://i.imgur.com/Kge1F.jpg nothing like giving a random npc birds for blood).

Liesmith posted:

Meanwhile the guy who is setting up shots, aiming for a full round, just to get the perfect called shot to the dome on some Techpriest? that guy's gonna get righteous fury once every couple of sessions.

Riso posted:

chapter status: understrength
chapter friends: adeptus mechanicus
chapter enemies: tyranids (nothing to steal)

S.J. posted:

Okay, that's what I figured. But just to clarify, are the basic combat rules and everything the same? I mean I know, like, DH handles full auto bonuses and stuff differently than the newer books.

Yoshimo posted:

How easy would it be to convert an existing DH game to BC, with respect to the Combat rules? Or would it totally gently caress things up?

Yoshimo posted:

Apparently Space Marines can survive in space without a helmet on.

Riso posted:

Guys guys there's a precedence for this:

Blood Raven chapter master/librarian dedicated to Khorne.

Asehujiko posted:

What is it that gives everybody but the Commissar more Movement then they have AB? In DH being large did that but there's nothing on either of the sheets about it.

Additionally, it looks like OW is going to be closer to RT in terms of power level then DH, based on the bolt/chain starting equipment and the stats on that Ripper being better then the Vanaheim in just about anything.

moths posted:

e: But it's ok because nobody showed anyway.

CommissarMega posted:

Not very different, insofar as I could see; however, instead of being Aligned to a Chaos God, you get Aptitudes, which line up to Skills and talents. Have one Aptitude for them, you pay Undivided prices. Have two Aptitudes, you pay Aligned prices. No Aptitudes, Opposed prices.

TheStampede posted:

Well they've already rolled up DW characters, so I was more concerned with the playing mechanics. I'll keep that stuff in mind though for after our first game if they feel like making new characters. Right now I think we just want to keep it simple and nail down the mechanics. We're mostly D&D 3.5 players, but I'm a huge warham, and 2 of them started playing DoW2 and got everyone interested enough to try this out with me. At least DW seems exponentially easier to handle then D&D 3.5.

Anyways, it seems like there weren't that many changes between DW and BC's combat systems. I didn't really notice what was different about the psychic powers though. Anyone mind filling me in on what I'm missing there, if anything?

Galaga Galaxian posted:

The new Swift/Lightning Attack + Hordes can be so fun. Especially when you're using two swords.

The reaction of my RT group's GM when my Lord Captain dove into a pack of orks and blendered a dozen almost in one Lightning attack round of my power swords was great. Then again if I hadn't murdered most of them, they would've killed me in return given you can't dodge/parry horde attacks. High powered Rogue Trader combat is so terrible/awesome, its pretty much Do or Die. Its like Epic level D&D with level 1 hitpoints almost.

Liesmith posted:

Losing arms and poo poo should be awesome for a techpriest though, they love turning into robots. Critical damage is not something for roboman to be sad about, it's an opportunity to become even closer to a perfect immortal machine

Kharol posted:

I'm running into the same issue in my Only War campaign right now. Between the Storm Trooper and Heavy with TB 6 and Storm Trooper Carapace, and the Psyker with TB 4, UnT 4, and a Good Quality Carapace Chestplate, most conventional weaponry is bouncing right off them. They're on a world that's been cut off from the Imperium for a thousand years, regressing to a nomads with autoguns situation. I could be using Accurate weapons to really lay on the hurt, but that ends up skirting dangerously close to a TPK (say, an opposing squad, prone, with cover and sniper rifles? That is seriously a Quality in need of rebalancing.). Of course, the situation is going to turn around when the nomads begin tapping into their lost-to-history Imperial weapon caches.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Generally I find that the smallest ship that can still give flexibility for the players while not being huge is a raider or frigate. Otherwise there isn't much room unless you use good/best components.

Orion Star Clippers are an option, although they have no armor to speak of. You could also look at the Litany of Avarice as another example; it's a frigate I put together in the pirate PbP game I am running.

How do you guys feel about the Mathhammer alternate rules for ship combat?

Jerkface posted:

Well are you super chaotic? The imperium isn't a very nice place, so you could simply come from the angle of wanting more modern freedoms. You'd be a heretic, but not the moustache twirling baby sacrficing kind.

Zereth posted:

Each degree of success adds a hit roll, and my Unrelenting Devastation adds 1 point of magnitude damage per hit.
Heavy Bolter does 2d10+10 and I rolled for each of the 6 hits :
2d10+10=28, 2d10+10=19, 2d10+10=24, 2d10+10=23, 2d10+10=27, 2d10+10=23
Total = 144 points of damage - 3 for Toughness Bonus - 0 for No Armour

For every 15 points of damage we remove 1 damage from magnitude.

That's 9 damage to magnitude, plus another 6 for each hit = 15 magnitude damage.
So the Horde's magnitude drops from 32 to 17.

Is that all correct?

Clanpot Shake posted:

Anyway, that still leaves them 'strategically withdrawing' from the depot. They'd just made it into the Chimera and to the gate, but they've got half a dozen guardsmen/genestealer cultists and a trio of tyranid things hitching a ride when we had to call it a night. Not sure where to pick up after this.

Bavius posted:

Well, Rogue Trader probably isn't far behind. It's not like they'd have to do much to change the rest of their systems. What I mean is that with V2.0 of Dark Heresy, we'll be seeing Rogue Trader 2.0 and the rest in due course. Just hoping for later rather than sooner because I've barely used the books I bought

Curious as to what is actually prompting the change, is Dark Heresy pretty stale in comparison to Only War?

Ashcans posted:

Note that there is Errata regarding combining Scatter and autofire. I have just copied this from the errata document:


So in your specific question, the shooter would get their first hit at 45, second hit at 25 (from semiauto). Then, separately, they would get an additional hit at 25 from Scatter, giving him three hits total.

You then determine hit locations; you rolled a 14, so you reverse the numbers and reference 41 on table 7-7, Hit Locations. 41 is Body. Now, because you have multiple hits from the attack, you reference table 7-6 to see where the additional two hits went: Body, and Arm. So your target has taken two hits to the Body, and one to the Arm.

Now you roll damage for each hit, subtract Toughness and Armor for the location from the respective shots, and apply any excess to wounds.

Night10194 posted:

RoF completely replaced Full Auto. There's no actual bonus/penalty for single/semi/full anymore and they aren't separate actions. The number of attacks in your burst is just equal to the RoF multiplied by how many AP you spent attacking, out of your 4 per turn.

kingcom posted:

Could you elaborate on this? I've always read as them having weird non-laser things like recoil and stuff.

SquadronROE posted:

So I'm actually having a little trouble trying to think of how a tech priest is going to be useful during combat. His skills aren't bad, but it doesn't seem like he has a lot of talents that lend themselves to being useful in combat.

Signal posted:

First: They can't look out at it, because it would cause them to go crazy from seeing the warp. How do they aim the guns, and how do they know what it is?

goatface posted:

Quick skim of books suggests that's how they work in every game. Crit 2 on a leg followed by 3 damage to an arm means crit 5 on the arm.

Most games have the option of/recommend that generic enemies follow the "sudden death" critical rules, where any critical outright kills them. Only significant enemies should actually have to work their way down the crit table. Just assume the party are walking around and executing the unconscious/massively wounded enemies before they leave.