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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Jeoh posted:

Well, personally, I blame the Jews.

:argh: Bloodnose :argh:

The Taiwanese solidarity protests are all over the news here. I really hope everything doesn't go to poo poo tomorrow. Good luck to everyone in HK.

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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Fuschia tude posted:

Huh, wasn't he from the generation that fought the civil war? Or is he actually younger than that?

A vast majority of the population was already here before the split. Just that most people in positions of power come from families who came over during the civil war. I have met people that are vehemently pro-KMT, but I've never met anyone over here that is pro-China. And for the really old ones, alot of them grew up speaking Japanese and Taiwanese.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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My dad is a professor at a university where I think the number of EFL students is greater than native speakers. He deals with constant cheating on essays. As he told me, "Chinese students just copy and paste paragraphs then deny doing it. Russian students are better at it: they pay people to write essays for them."

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Grand Fromage posted:

Our school is designed to be like attending American high school to prep kids to go to western universities (usually the US) so I do actually fail them, yes. I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't.

Just because you fail them doesn't mean they are actually failing. Have you ever seen the actual paper that gets sent home? Are you manually uploading the grades into (I'm guessing) the online system?

I teach in the same kind of system. There are about 180 kids (in a special program inside a school of 8000,) with 30 in each grade (7-12.) In each class you got about 10 that are the real deal, 10 that have some english difficulties but are better than the average ESL student, and 10 that are dregs. Every quarter we give the kids a online reading test from Scholastic that is supposed to gauge their reading level. We've got some kids in grade 10, 11 that have a 1st grade reading level. With 3/4th of all their classes are totally English.

In January I was watching them upload my grades. In one of my classes I had one kid who got an F (55.something.) I watched the secretary go to submit the grades into the online system and...nothing. Not uploading. She tries again, same thing. She looks at the grades again and spots the F. She points it at me and says "so...60?" I sigh and put it in. The grades get submitted. I literally can't fail anyone. None of the foreigner teachers have been told this officially, and everyone hands in grade with the failures in them, but they all get bumped up before they get uploaded.

I believe in the larger part of the school grades aren't allowed to go below 10 (this has been a problem before in some regular English classes apparently.)

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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computer parts posted:

The 10-15 years after the fall of the Emperor is one of the more interesting periods in Chinese history. You had the collapse of the old regime, establishment of a Republic, collapse due to reactionary elements, large numbers of people embracing Communism because of Western ignorance and imperialism, and then the Nationalists and Communists team up to reunite China.

Also fun fact: the flag of the Nationalists is only prominent in one location on the mainland: the tomb of Sun Yat-Sen.



This is also why 90% of all chinese dramas are set during this time period.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Does Hong Kong always have signers on their political debates?

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Arglebargle III posted:

Actual real-live Chinese people will tell you the economy was better in the '90s but it's harder to get by now and people are upset.

I think most people in any country would tell you the same thing.

except Russia I guess

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Having the first day of school being in August is a travesty and the leader of the MOE should be fired.

E: hmm, took me a day to realize this post is in the wrong topic

GoutPatrol fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Sep 1, 2015

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Parkingtigers posted:


Things. Have. Changed.

Not to be Pro-PRC Laowai, but really?

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Fojar38 posted:

Oh boy with Serbia on board nothing can stop the Chinese

China is very good at forming a coalition of the willing.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Fojar38 posted:

Personally I think he should just own the fact that he called Taiwan and spoke with their President. I'm in the very awkward position of finding Trump too moderate.

Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Levon Wei is the best twitter account going.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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The Great Autismo! posted:

isn't it obvious?

wumaos!!! :argh:

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Vesi posted:

There's nothing bad about this, it's just westerners that project their own humanity on pets over production animals.

It's the same mechanism that makes you feel empathy for a fellow white christian but ignore the plight of the negro.

So much for the tolerant West

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Lots of old rich white men on stuff in Asia

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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McGavin posted:

Which Hong Kong bookstore do you own?

I already made that joke in GBS.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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A right wing "chinese-american john birch society" is a good quote.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Grand Fromage posted:

Hey now, they get a whole Sunday afternoon off to go sit on cardboard boxes on pedestrian bridges.

same, but Indonesian factory workers also hanging out with maids

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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I get urban dictionary and jackie chan adventures

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Reserved seating can be good but when you have a theater that is 80% empty and they still put me in a big group together I just don't wanna sit next to the people chowing on McDonald's you fuckers

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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I hear they are lynching negros now too

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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there is nothing wrong with the video but i do not like the fact he gets paid to make them

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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icantfindaname posted:

Japan is more prominent/well-known in English language media world than South Korea

Data’s probably old

You can trace SK and Taiwan's demographic plunge to the early 90s (and a real hit in 97) but Japan started a generation before.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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icantfindaname posted:

According to this SK’s birthrate went below 2 to ~1.5 in the mid 80s, and then collapsed to 1.1 or so after 2000. Japan fell in the 70s but that was basically in line with European countries. Germany was actually lower than Japan from the mid 70s to the mid 90s, Japan went down in two stages sort of, from 2+ to like 1.7 then from there to 1.4. Germany fell to 1.4 in like 1973 and hasn’t budged since.

Having a leech-like neocolonial relationship with Eastern Europe and sucking up all their young people helps Germany with that though. Maybe Japan should consider the same with its near abroad (that’s a joke, although the structural and historical parallels are very obvious)

No data for Renegade Province, of course

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=KR-JP-DE

http://sowf.moi.gov.tw/stat/year/list.htm
http://win.dgbas.gov.tw/fies/e11.asp?year=105

I know it says 105 data (which means 2016) but most of the files have data going back to the 70s/80s

If you'd ask me a couple months ago I could remember which ones yield the best info, my students were tracking data by county for their projects (and the obtuseness of these graphs were difficult for me, imagine trying to help 7th graders parse this data.) I also emailed the person in charge of this data for recent job stats (participation rates and primary/secondary/tertiary) by county. If you check section 2, sheet 1 you see raw pop. stats showing a big drop-off around 1986 and another one in 98. Besides 2000 and 2012 (dragon years) its a straight shot down.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

caberham posted:

The reason I stayed in this thread was because I really liked the OP breaking down how China works.



Kind of seems outdated after 5 years of Xi bulldozing the previous 20.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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sincx posted:

Holy poo poo.

Mao version 2.0 confirmed.

you need institutional experience to combat the western imperialist dogs

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: theres actually zero difference between taiwan and china. you imbecile. you loving moron

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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the pla will be greeted as liberaators

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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EdithUpwards posted:

Also there are enough people in the Generation of Traitors who still have the strength to become family annihilators if they catch their kids and grandkids speaking Japanese.

most taiwanese grannies I know speak japanese

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Boris Galerkin posted:

I’ve been reading a lot of news about China lately wrt the president for life thing, and as an outsider I’ve read a few phrases repeated over and over again and have no context for what it means.

The first phrase I keep seeing is how Xi Jinping has “enshrined himself into the communist party’s constitution” and “elevated to the level of Chairman Mao.” So what exactly does this mean, to be enshrined in the constitution? It’s never really explained in the (western) news articles and just stated as a matter of fact. Was the constitution amended (in the American sense) with a line that says “Xi Jingping is and will always be a/the leader of our party” or something else more subtle?

Second, the news usually makes a point to say something like “the communist party’s constitution” rather than “China’s constitution.” Again being an American this distinction doesn’t make sense to me because over here we have one constitution, the constitution, and each party has their own platform of issues what they want/plan to do. But in the end the ultimate rule of law is within the constitution and not the party’s platform. In China are these two things the same things?

Thanks in advance.

Q1: For the most important dudes in PRC history, they specifically get quotes into the constitution. There is a different between the party's opinion on socialism with chinese characteristics, and THIS GUY'S opinion on socialism with chinese characteristics.

Q2: De facto rule of the chinese government is done through the party. People in government positions are not loyal to the idea of a chinese government itself, but loyal to the communist party of China. Most of the time these two ideas are basically the same, but when push comes to shove whatever the party leaders say goes, not a non-party government official (however few in power they may be.) Whenever a chinese official says they need to obey the rule of law, it means following the CCP.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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R. Guyovich posted:

no one is directly quoted in the constitution

It is not like "this person said in this speech" but it is about having a leader's ideology "canonized" and part of further CCP ideals. Unless you want to get pedantic about the differences between a charter and a constitution.

quote:

this is also wrong but less obviously so. the party has primary responsibility for political decision-making and the government has primary responsibility for implementation. there's no doubt the cpc is the ruling party, and government positions often have a party position counterpart, but they are distinct in terms of accountability and administration.

When the true decision makers of the government are also party members I don't really see a difference.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Everyone in this thread is a nickle-and-dimer for the USofA.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:

Most of the former USSR has more women than men so there's always hope for the rich Chinese nerd.

Most of that women surplus comes in post-menopausal women.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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sincx posted:

This one's missing the dash.

9 of them

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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meat stone and cabbage were lame as gently caress.

The Southern museum in Chiayi is very nice too.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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tino posted:

Can I still walk down stair and order pork steamed rice roll across street every morning?

I too value gutter oil food over the health and safety of my children

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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My Taiwan#1 spamming has finally done something.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Silver2195 posted:

That’s an odd conclusion to draw after posting a poll showing that a plurality of Taiwanese support independence.

quote:

The data showed that the percentage of pro-unification respondents decreased from 45.3 percent in 1991 to a low of 14 percent in 1996, when China conducted a series of missile tests in the waters around Taiwan.

Tsai’s cross-strait policy of maintaining the “status quo” upset pro-independence supporters, but also displeased pro-unification supporters and advocates of maintaining the “status quo,” foundation chairman Michael You (游盈隆) said.

Dissatisfaction on the part of all three groups might have resulted in Tsai’s approval rating sinking to 31.2 percent, her second-lowest rating since taking office, You said.

People are frustrated with Tsai’s cross-strait policy, because it does not provide them with the vision of an independent Taiwan, nor does it provide a road map showing how the nation is going to achieve independence, former Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) legislator Chien Hsi-chieh (簡錫堦) said.

“Democracy is Taiwan’s greatest asset, but Tsai compromised democratic values by remaining silent over the plight of Chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo (劉曉波) for fear of provoking Beijing,” Chien said, adding that it is not surprising that the voice of pro-independence voters is getting softer.

This is pro-unification how?

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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Drinking hot water will affect it in a positive direction.

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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

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BrainDance posted:

I don't know if my reading was right, but when I read "liberals" here, in these conversations, I'm not reading it as "the center left people in America" but "pro-capitalists, not leftists." But maybe people aren't using it that way and I just hang out with too many way left people.

liberalsliberalsliberals.jpg has become very unironic in this day and age.

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