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Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

I remember a really cool couple of scenes in Kessen II. Kessen II is even more removed from reality than the novel OR Dynasty Warriors, but that's okay because it makes up for it with awesome.

After you finish playing as Shu, you switch over to Wei to see Cao Cao's side of things and it puts him in a more complicated role than you'd imagine from the start. One of your officers is Zhang Liao and he has to perform a one-on-one duel with Guan Yu to delay his unit during one battle--you even get a cutscene where they're whirling their spears against each other like blenders. Guan Yu and Zhang Liao reminisce about how they once fought a duel to win the favor of a woman--and Guan Yu won. *clang!* Guan Yu knocks away Zhang Liao's weapon. "Just like I won this time!"

But then in a later battle, Zhang Liao and Guan Yu have a rematch with the same purpose--to delay Guan Yu's unit. While they're again whirling away at each other, Zhang Liao asks "Say, that girl…did you marry her?" "I sure did." Zhang Liao smacks Guan Yu's weapon away and says "Then go back to her." Badass.

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Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Needs More Jazz posted:

Everyone should be slaughtering enemies with surfing all the time everywhere.

Xingcai is so totally radical.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Oh, him using two swords isn't something Dynasty Warriors made up? I'm shocked.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

That just sounds like a Guan Yu facial hair growth simulator.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

THE MOON! posted:

HEY. Don't talk poo poo about the rocket-propelled lance. That poo poo is fun.

I'm fond of Guo Hai's machine gun crossbow too.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Bloodly posted:

35 per bodyguard, minimum. 5 on use, 30 on completion. Though in the end, you'll likely run Gather Supplies+Summon Enemy by default. Time is everything.

One thing I can't figure is whether the secondary skill earned via bond is fixed, or dependant on who you use to unlock it.

Summon Enemy counts as kills?

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008


"I am my own opponent? This will be difficult!"

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

The Doomhammer posted:

Liu Bei just isn't as cool now without his moustache.

He looks like a kid without his mustache!


Now THAT is a regal mustache. Why did this guy fall by the wayside when the Three Kingdoms got established?

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

There's a Wei-uniform Guan Yu in 8, is there a Shu-uniform Shangxiang?

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

I like Chen Gong's smugness a lot better than Sima Yi's or Zhuge Liang's. He's fun.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

First thing that crossed my mind when I saw Sauron knocking away an entire army on horseback in the first part of LOTR was "Man, Sauron is playing Dynasty Warriors!"

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

I always liked the one game where he used magic to freeze a river, letting his trips cross it effortlessly.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

It does make it kind of weird when you have a DW as an actionized heroic epic that devotes the final chapter to the supervillains after they won and killed everybody, though.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Policenaut posted:

Holy poo poo don't buy Ken's Rage 2 it's arguably the worst modern Warriors game ever.

It is not nearly as fun for me as the first Ken's Rage game. Which I liked quite a bit.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Cyborg General Sherman!

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

...giant Nobunaga and Hideoshi shooting laser beams out of their eyes at the crowds?

Well, gently caress guess I do need to find a copy of this.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

SW4 features no Pokemon. Sad.

Oh, hey, it does have a few transplants from Orochi 3 though! Shuten Doji!

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

"Strategy." Of course.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

You can still do musous and so on without the EX Weapon, it's just that that particular weapon gives that character extra moves. So they'll be able to use it better than anyone else. Sometimes this doesn't make a big difference, sometimes it does. It's best to have two different weapons with two different affinities just so you can mix it up situationally. You can't have three weapons for all three affinities, mostly because this would break the rock/paper/scissors thing they've got going on.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Helion posted:

Is DW 8 for the vita worth getting? I heard that it had serious slowdown issues, is that still true? How does the game match up against the other recent Musou games?

I had fun. Slowdown usually only happened to me when I entered a place with fire attack effects.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Always take it with a grain of salt when ImpAtom says something is easy. This man eats difficult video games for breakfast.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

I'm still fond of Modern Day costumes, myself. If only there was a way to switch them all on for everyone at once. The cutscenes would be hilarious.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Stelas posted:

You do get to ride a Roman chariot or an elephant around the Hundred Years War. That's a thing.

...when did the Punic Wars get mixed into the Hundred Years War?

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Sakurazuka posted:

Just off the top of my head:

Story mode has more cutscenes than gameplay and they added in the lovely Fist of the North Star 2 stuff that even the original creators disowned. Scrapped the cool alternate universe stuff for the extra mode and replaced it with a boring prequel where each character shared like 75% of the same levels.

Also: replaced the neat skill tree system with a system that gives you stat-ups for killing enemies with particular attacks--you don't have to think as much about upgrading, but that takes the fun out of upgrading and turns it into more of a grind.

They also don't have the "make seven stars appear during one mission" system, too, I think. That was basically Ken's Rage 1's self-imposed challenge system, you'd get bigger and better rewards, but the bosses got insanely tougher if you made all seven stars appear during story missions, and you'd need to hit a hundred buttons in sequence without screwing up during the finishing move. But if you could pull it off, you'd feel like a badass.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Ken's Rage 1 gave you the highlights of the FOTNS story while Ken's Rage 2 had all the superfluous side-stories crammed in there at once for volume's sake, but quantity did not equal quality either.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

I like how Joan of Arc is so pure of heart that she's immune to demonic mind control.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

This all makes me think that they ought to synthesize the "Benevolence!" crap with the reality of them being bandit lords into making Shu the Robin Hood faction. They already wear green in the games...

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Agean90 posted:

You should play Kessen 3 where they have Oda Nobunaga, brutal warlord for Peace and Justice.

....go into detail about how this was pulled off?

I still remember Kessen II's Himiko. Warriors Orochi 3's Himiko is basically just a less-gaudy version of her, and I think it's hilarious. Japan's ancient queen, back when she was a goofy teenager with super magic powers. (Her shaman vest is pretty awesome though)

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Agean90 posted:

He's sees how many people get screwed over by the constant fighting and vows to unite the land and put an end to it, even if it means ignoring the social order of things or burning down a few monasteries as those are preferable to more meaningless war.

he also has a castle that transforms into a giant robot and a musket that can pierce the heavens.

Huh, a lot closer to the real deal than I had imagined.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Ha ha ha, the level in Warriors Orochi 3 where you suddenly turn a corner and the whole area is a modern beach resort straight out of Dead or Alive Volleyball.

Also, it looks like Ultimate has significantly more levels than Vanilla 3 did.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

The GIG posted:

I think my favorite thing about the Orochi series is how Wu always seems to go out of its way to do nothing, to the point where in 3 by the end of chapter 1, Shu has a few Tiger generals running around, Wei has Jin representing it, and Japan has a decent amount of the Toyotomi Clan, but Wu only has the bodyguards, only one of which really does anything and just get SSX and she is pretty much entirely a delivery device for Kai.

Also everyone's coloring scheme makes no drat sense by this point as we have a billion different alliances and everyone's all mixed up.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Largepotato posted:

One of the highest evil titles in 8:E gives a tactic that massively increases attack, but turns on friendly fire. :black101:

Oh, wow. Hahah. I think I need to try out a DW Empires game for once.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

drat, gauntlet mode in Orochi 3 Ultimate is chewing me UP. I guess I need much more powerful soldiers and weapons to make a dent in it.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

What, Jim Sterling didn't like 8X:Empire? Huh. He usually can't get enough Dynasty Warriors.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Hideyoshi is just so drat cheerful in WO3. I confess I never actually got any Samurai Warriors game, is he that happy there too? (That flamboyant sunburst-helmet he's got...wow.)

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Happy Hedonist posted:

May I ask why in the gently caress this wooden ox is able to propel itself from place to place and why Chinese generals care enough to escort it?

I've never even been able to tell what the hell the original wooden ox actually did historically.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Policenaut posted:

Orochi 3 Ultimate is pound for pound the densest game in franchise history when it comes to content. There's over a hundred characters and hundreds of hours worth of content, granted that they don't explain who any of the characters are. Empires really can't stand against O3U in terms of content.

Plus its structure is so FUN. Every new major mission you complete, you get at least one new guy to play with. "Gotta catch 'em all!"

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

It's been a long time since I played a good Spider-Man game. One with swords and chopping the necks of naked giants off is a welcome change of pace!

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

U.T. Raptor posted:

Also the janky MH item system is replaced with something much more intuitive, and there's a lot of QoL stuff like not having to sheath your weapon to run (who thought that was a good idea?) and being able to lock on to enemies. Also, your teammates are cool and good and actually useful.

You might want to look into Freedom Wars, which also contains spider-manning and chopping limbs off of giant robots. A lot of the enemies are un-fun to fight (too much stomping and charging and shaking you off, and if there's more than one of the big enemies on a map it gets real ugly real fast. Also, endlessly respawning human enemies can go gently caress themselves), but the actual gameplay is pretty fun, there's a good variety of weapons, and the game does a good job of creating the proper atmosphere for the setting.

I have played Freedom Wars, but I never got too far into it. The premise was pretty hilariously grim; a prisoner who's essentially a slave working off an infinite amount of time and you get docked for every little violation. Attacking the giant robots was interesting but it got a bit samey. And none of the guns seemed half as useful as the swords!

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Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Leal posted:

Also I don't understand what they're saying so I cannot gauge if they're doing it good or not

For some reason in DW games the text quote is different for everyone's "I just killed an officer!" line but they all just say, exactly "Enemy Officer: Defeated!" in Japanese. That still weirds me out.

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