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http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page#.UBHT9WE19Zw Is a great wiki on the 40k universe, when I first discovered it, I lost hours just reading it.
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I'm pretty sure that quite a few of Alpha legionnaires have "lost sight" of what they're trying to do in 10 millennia and that explains why some of them are corrupted. Honestly like the 2 missing primarchs, alpha legion is left intentionally ambiguous so that people can play on both sides of the fence in the table top. We'll probably never get an answer unless they decide to go forward with the story. As far as humans and chaos go, I was under the impression that humanity has a disproportionate footprint in the warp. That's why chaos is/was so keen on turning humanity.
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Sep 4, 2012 20:12
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Man I should really finish off Ravenor soon. I loved Eisenhorn, but Ravenor has been somewhat of a slog.
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Oct 9, 2012 00:10
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Mikojan posted:I also felt like the 'purpose' Talos designed for themselves was really shoehorned in there. Same goes with the death of Curze and how it somehow translates into a message to the imperium; it felt really awkard. Because it was shoehorned in there, all the other Nightlords know exactly what they are (and have always been). Only Talos felt the need for some sort of purpose and the rest of the warband played along because they respected his strength. I also was under the impression that the message was always for the emperor and not the imperium as a whole.
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Dec 7, 2012 23:52
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Ardent Communist posted:And of course, there's the point that the initial legions were many times larger than any chapter now, so even taking enormous casualties during the Heresy could still mean there's 10,000 Night Lords or what-have you. In one of the Talos & Co. short stories, where they retrieve the recording of Curze's death they basically say that there are 12,000 Nightlords gathered and those were the ones that were able to respond to the summons immediately. Implying that there's a poo poo ton more Nightlords around. Lyer fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Dec 11, 2012 |
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Dec 11, 2012 18:45
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Alchenar posted:It's also that while other Chaos Legions are used to represent the epitome of worship of one Chaos God or another (as well as mirrors to certain specialist loyalists), the Black Legion is really represented as being more anti-Imperium than pro-Chaos in any substiantial way - the most substantial element being how a point is made that Abaddon has been offered daemonhood several times and keeps turning it down. I read that he refuses to ascend because that would mean he'd be susceptible to be banished to the warp. Being "mortal" lets' him come and go as he pleases, not to mention there aren't many things that could kill him anyway. But yeah, I get the impression that for Black Legion, chaos is just a means to an end.
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Dec 12, 2012 18:27
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It's probably something unexciting like writing the first book about the siege of terra (1st out of 20 books!).
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Dec 27, 2012 18:06
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berzerkmonkey posted:Wait. You put "the Siege of Terra" and "unexciting" in the same sentence? Whaaa? Don't get me wrong, it'll definitely be cool and good if he's handling it as opposed to some of the other mediocre writers. It's just that the super secret project isn't all that super secret and exciting when we know it's going to happen.
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Dec 27, 2012 20:15
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Maybe it'll be a spin-off of 40k where we actually see the timeline move on. 
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Mar 13, 2013 17:12
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berzerkmonkey posted:Haha, this is awesome. I so want a Blood Ravens Epic army now. You could have a mishmash of marines from random chapters and it'd still work as a Blood Ravens army.
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Jun 19, 2013 17:30
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Alchenar posted:It's a sometime-hinted at thing that the Emperor isn't a totally benign altruistic being with humanity's best interests at heart. It would be very 40k if Emperor wasn't; totally validating what Lorgar does and that Chaos really is the only way to salvation. 
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Jul 12, 2013 00:55
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I think the end of the HH is like the end of the 13th black crusade, neither side can claim true victory, but the result an acceptable state of affairs.
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Aug 22, 2013 19:36
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So why is it there are no stories about Mortarion or the Death Guard? Is it because the explanation for them siding with Horus is pretty simple and would be really hard to expand that into a book?
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Sep 3, 2013 19:07
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Khizan posted:The problem is that they were trying to jump right into the Heresy. What they needed to do was give us a handful of good Great Crusade books so that we actually got to see the players involved before everything went right to poo poo. I would not be surprised if the Great Crusade series launches immediately after the HH series ends. There's just too much good stuff (money and tabletop models) to leave out. Founding of the legions, finding the primarchs, famous battles of the GC. It'll also end off at the height, which is Ullanor.
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Sep 16, 2013 18:15
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William Bear posted:Having read this thread for a while, I think either I or some other people are not understanding The Last Church. I thought it made the priest to be more sympathetic than the Emperor, with the priest's arguements for the common human need for something more being eventually proven correct by the Emperor's eventual status of being worshipped. The Emperor is right in the short term (the rock isn't supernatural) but proven wrong in the long term (the Imperial Truth isn't spiritually fulfilling.) Isn't this the exact same reasoning why Lorgar turned to chaos?
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Sep 17, 2013 17:09
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VanSandman posted:It's mainly 12-16 year old boys with rich parents. Or rich parents of 12-16 year old boys.
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Sep 24, 2013 18:17
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I don't think the Sons of Horus were exterminated as much as they became a different legion. They lost a ton of guys from the wars in the eye, but have bolstered their ranks from other legions.
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Oct 15, 2013 17:22
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Is it out? I had heard that they were going to release a new version of it.
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Oct 17, 2013 01:03
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I thought the emperor was powering it during the great crusade because he was just that powerful. It was only after the HH that he needed the help of 10,000 psykers because he was a corpse.
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Oct 21, 2013 18:09
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pentyne posted:Yeah, what's the deal with Dawn of War 3? Is GW just pissy that the franchise was so popular in creating its own Space Marine chapter that it sandbagged further development? The series sold an insane amount of copies and is universally regarded as an amazing game. The publisher went bankrupt and the developer sold to another company that doesn't have the rights to make 40k games is what happened.
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Mar 19, 2014 00:18
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Well at that point in 30k, there's no Tyranids, Necrons or Chaos on a massive level to deal with. The eldar have basically disappeared and the only large force in the galaxy are Orks. What's left are probably random xenos civilizations that can't match the sheer number of soldiers the Imperium throws at them. You also have 20 or so Primarchs running around with a huge space marine fighting force that's not present in 40k, so I can believe the 200 year timeline of the great crusade. Plus it just adds to the grimdark nature of 40k, of what little gains they've seen in 10k years vs. the initial 200.
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Jul 26, 2014 07:18
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I don't know why they don't release the normal versions of the book a week later or something. poo poo is going to be all over the internet in a few days.
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Aug 23, 2014 03:16
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Going to buy it anyway, but how does it stack up with the 40k "greats", Eisenhorn, Nightlords, etc?
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Sep 2, 2014 06:17
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Uroboros posted:This would also occur later since the Emperor's Children still seem to be an organized fighting force that is winning the Legion Wars. It's explicitly stated that the book occurs after the battle. It's just a throw away line about some bad poo poo that goes down in the eye, nothing to focus on.
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Sep 23, 2014 06:50
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Khizan posted:Eh. You could just go read the summaries of Istvaan III or whatever on the Lexicanum and you'd get everything important from those two books. They're pretty awful. Yeah I think reading about the heresy on lexicanum is the way to go. You'd get an understanding of the entire thing and get to pick and choose which books you want to read. All of them basically just expands on the summaries without deviating from what happens anyway.
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Nov 19, 2014 22:44
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Sounds like Talon of Horus: that's one of the sticking points Khayron has with Telemachon, his company was supposed to reinforce the Thousand Sons, but ran off and they got slaughtered..
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Jan 7, 2015 03:13
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I have absolutely no idea where else to post this, as the thread in games is long dead, but since you guys seem to be the only ones that like 40k, I'll link it here. If any of you have DoW2, go download the free Necron Lord DLC for the last stand mode right now, it'll cost you some cash after the 15th. Totally unrelated to books, but hey, how often do you get free 40k poo poo that's good? https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/03/02/dawn-of-war-ii-necron-overlord-dlc/
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