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Nephilm posted:Hate and fear them, don't forget. Most people won't talk poo poo at a navigator's face, because they're witches that can kill you with a single glance from their warp eye. One of the "Battles" books has the Ultramarines treating Tiberius or whatever as a complete outsider, despite him being buddies with the chapter master and the dude who figured out how to beat the hive fleet. Doesn't matter who or what you are, but if you are a psyker, you are on the absolute bottom of the heap. Also I would recommend picking up the BL novella Crimson Fist, it's a pretty good background on the Imperial Fists, Templars, and the Crimson Fists.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Whaaaaa? What book was this in? I've seen stuff about Ork Gargants being the size of Titans, but not actual Orks... Ghazghkull is about the biggest, baddest Ork out there and he tops out at around 12 feet or so in his armor. It was off-handedly mentioned as a possibility off in some unknown area of space during the HH if I recall correctly. Something about this Ork empire that'd been at war so long that xenologists surmised the head Orks would be the size of battle titans. Don't think they ever showed Orks that big but they did have one choke out the Emperor.
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I was excited for the new Sanguinius-centric book until I noticed James Swallows was the assigned author. Is he contracted to be the only Blood Angels writer for Black Library or is he the only guy who is willing to write their stuff? Also, was Priests of Mars any good? I don't recall there being much of a splash about it.
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TheLawinator posted:Corax had some psychic ability, couldn't he make people not see him? Something about if he wished to be invisible/undetectable he could just walk around in a crowded room without anyone noticing. I think the ability extended to mechanical detectors too but I'm not 100% on that one. I think Deliverance Lost goes into it in detail
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Baron Bifford posted:I wonder why Warhammer doesn't have a larger presence in TV or cinemas. All we got is the lovely Ultramarines movies. If it's so popular, it should have more than this. I think the established excuse is that Games Workshop refuses to share any merchandising income or profits from any spin off projects, hence the exclusive deal with THQ, the in-house development group, and the publishing company established JUST to put out their own stuff. To be honest, any media that would come out from the GW family of products would pretty much print money.
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Jun 13, 2013 01:17
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Baron Bifford posted:Is this true? Perhaps W40K isn't that popular and not worth the investment of a major film studio. To back up what Berzerkermonkey replied to this. The current shift in Hollywood, television and print media is skewing heavily to sci-fi, and in particular, grim, dystopian sci-fi across a lot of demographics traditionally unaffiliated with the genre. If there were an appropriate product released I think it would be a substantial commercial success in the film industry and an outright coup for GW. Compare the profits from selling miniatures, niche books, and supplements against the income that could be generated from a successful movie deal. A television series could also be good exposure and lead-up to a wider release. I'm basing my ideas around the fact that Game of Thrones, that HBO Vampire Show, and the Marvel movies have rather impenetrable backgrounds that have been successfully adapted to fit wider appeal. I would love a Rynn's World Mini-series and a Helsreach feature though. 
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mllaneza posted:Oh right. Rawne's a damned good shot too. Astartes are indeed gods on the battlefield, it's just that they were up against the best special ops team in the gaalxy. they also had the support of the moth-people who are totally not analogous to the desert dudes from Dune. Abnett, writes his astartes heavily dependent on the setting, for another example, the three marines in his most recent book are utterly unstoppable, whereas a dreadnaught in his first book was taken apart by spring-loaded cacti.
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Arquinsiel posted:I guess it's Brother-Captain Artemis from the Inquisitor rulebook? Think that's Fisk or whatever the Arbites guy was called.
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Sep 24, 2013 01:11
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Waroduce posted:Is there any literature on the Unification Wars and Thunder Warriors? Or is it all just from random pieces of fluff? Those two topics have always interested me, and I've heard the Thunder Warriors were even bigger and nastier than Space Marines. The narrator in Prospero burns provides some first-hand accounts of battles and social issues during and immediately after the Unification Wars. No Thunder Warriors, but you get pre-crusade Space Marines in it.
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Stolen from YOSPOS, not topical but Abnett fans will enjoy:
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Oct 6, 2013 03:06
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AcidRonin posted:I might have to actually read that there book. Alien-contracted civil rights leaders assassins aside, it is a pretty solid entry into the HH series, and follows up Know No Fear, Betrayer, and Mark of Calth pretty nicely. Oddly enough for an Ultramarines-centric book it gives a lot of insight as to how the Heresy-era legions worked together and operated under the commands of other legions.
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Lead Psychiatry posted:This is another thing that confuses the gently caress out of me. Psykers. He is one. And yet they're not supposed to come about until what? Year 20k?! Curse this drat universe's lack of consistency. drat. Edit: Cream_Filling handled the psyker thing. My confusion is whether or not the whole "natural perpetual" thing is a re-boot of the sensei thread from the 90s, would all these guys be the Emperor's biological kids?
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Oct 9, 2013 15:35
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VanSandman posted:The Orks are literally the same, the Daemons and chaos gods are too, and there's actually quite a bit of winks and nods in the fluff for Warhammer that put it in the same universe as 40k. I thought they rolled that insinuation back after the last big fantasy campaign? Wasn't there some big interview around that formally estalished different universes?
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Oct 23, 2013 19:24
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UberJumper posted:It was pretty interesting to see the changes of the world, as well as the general mystery that blood angels have from their perspective. Also gently caress Russ and his Wolves who enforce the edict of niketa yet at the same are blatantly using psykers. About the Wolves I thought that Russ's Runepriests didn't draw their power from the warp, but rather through the world-spirit of Fenris. There was a whole sub-plot in Battle of the Fang that focused on Magnus "putting it to sleep". I may be entirely wrong but it would be in line with all the special powers the wolves have and build up their being the executioner legion. My question in the current setting is how big the chapter is. From Battle of the Fang, it sounds like they are standard sized but other short stories and the like suggest that they are at or near ten-thousand. Is this written down anywhere or does it change on the author's bias like the Fists and Templars? Regarding story progression, I think the current Apocalypse line of products/stories/etc has potential to explore each race's "End Time" scenario a bit while having throwaway scenarios that aren't quite canon but follow the setting(s) set up by the main franchise plot. It seems that with the inital soft-launch back in 2008/9 and the doubling down in the past year speaks to GW pursuing a go big or go home strategy.
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UberJumper posted:I still do not understand what the dark forests of Caliban did to him that makes him not trust anyone. Honestly the one thing i still do not get really is his falling out with Luther. Aliens sneak bomb onto ship, Luther saves the day. His reward is he is more or less told to go back to Caliban. Caliban was pretty much soaking in some kind of chaos or warp influence when the Lion got there, it's implied that he had a pretty hard time surviving in the woods, fighting off chaos monsters for however many years it took for him to be found, so maybe it's an attempt to write in some kind of PTSD-type thing. Regarding Luther, I think his beef was that the Lion didn't explain the huge importance of the training duty enough, so he took it as an insult rather than the promotion it was. The guy was told to watch over the expansion of the HQ, and train the next generations of recruits, for a legion like the Dark Angels, that's a pretty important job. There also seems to be a running trend of the primarchs' earliest supporters souring on the whole great crusade deal once they get out there and the legionaires start getting involved. Immanentized fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Nov 26, 2013 |
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Blacktoll posted:The thing with Luther being sent back to Caliban makes sense to me. Maybe I'm outing myself as an aspie, but sending your most trusted friend to keep an eye in things doesn't seem like the worst move. No, it's probably the highest compliment you can give an old friend/comrade, but you should really take the time to explain WHY you are doing it. Also, probably not a good idea to do it immediately after that person is the center of a perceived slip-up in your personal security. edit: the focus of this post is on the fact that Luther was old , no way in hell he could've kept up with the new guys at that point. Immanentized fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Nov 26, 2013 |
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Nov 26, 2013 21:17
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Lead Psychiatry posted:I got about a quarter of the way through Unremembered Empire when it dawned on me I have no idea how the Mechanicum fit into The 500 Worlds. Did Guilliman just end up having to donate some planets to be forgeworlds for them or ordered to by the Emperor cause allies or what? Euten was basically RG's governess right? If you read Know No Fear, it specifically mentions a forge world/moon that orbits Calth when the Word Bearers attack. I think there is also mention in that book how the planets within Ultramar are balanced between production, administration, and whatever meaning that there isn't much need for Forge Worlds as they appear in other parts of the galaxy.
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VanSandman posted:Personal dumb theory with no text support: Malcador is what happened when the Emperor attempted to clone himself the first time. The books that cover the battle at Ullanor all say that he and Horus "fought back-to-back" in the thickest parts of the fight and that they tag-teamed the warboss in hand-to-hand combat, leading to the Emperor getting choked out by said warboss. There was also something in the Collected Visions book where he and a ridiculous amount of custodians teleported into the middle of an Ork horde to bail out Horus or Dorn, I forget which.
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UberJumper posted:Finished mark of calth, and it was one of the better collections of short stories. I'm halfway through Executioner now. I can probably post a full review tomorrow. Starts off promising but it is real heavy on Fremen references with the natives so far. Edit: some neat but weirdly flat battle sequences. Uneven character development and jumbled narrative. Overall for BL it was OK. The tank fights read more like forge world ads than anything else. Immanentized fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Dec 19, 2013 |
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Kegslayer posted:Speaking of which I didn't realise there was a sequel for Helsreach with the Celestial Lions and the Black Templars. Is it worth reading? I sat down and read it in one sitting last night. It's about 40ish pages on a kindle, but I thought it was a great follow up to Helsreach and offered some neat story points. The Celestial Lion story circle was also pretty great. I actually have a question for anyone else who read the Armageddon books: Is that stormtrooper captain Andrej a perpetual ? I mean he just keeps popping up and that little bit with him on the Eternal Crusader in the end was really out of place. Immanentized fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Jan 14, 2014 |
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Jan 14, 2014 14:54
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Anonymous Zebra posted:Nah, he is just some well-placed comedy in an otherwise really grim set of stories. The final joke is that the story ends really bitter with Grimaldus saying that even that funny comedic relief guy dies in the end, and then literally on the last page he pops up again complaining about how he isn't getting retirement pay because some dumbass Space Marine hammered his name onto a big monument and now he needs to run back down there and cross the name out. It's the weird dark comedy that makes ADB books so good. I figured he was being played for the comedy, but he seems to make it through the heaviest fighting without a scratch in both sets of stories. Maybe I'm being a giant goon, but I couldn't help but think ADB was doing something funky with him. Adventures of Grim and Andrej trilogy 2016?
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I would take it to resemble something like what was described in the last Night Lords book. If the Ultramarines are in need, they are able to relatively easily request/bribe/marshall their successor chapters and focus them into a coherent fighting force much more easily than other chapters. Also despite the 500 worlds getting trashed, it still is laid out to have less disfunction than the rest of the Imperium, allowing other forces to be brought up more quickly Basically if something big and scary enough were to threaten the Ultras, they could theoretically roll up with another full chapter's worth of marines at minimum and around ten times that if you really asked for it. Though I thought the Black Templars were something approaching legion size last time I read their background. Has this changed?
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Angry Lobster posted:About the size of the legions, they tend to vary widely in size, and, as far as I know, the only one we know the exact numbers are the Ultramarines with two hundred and fifty thousand dudes, which is a mind numbing number. Didn't A Thousand Sons / Prospero burns establish the TS and SW as having around 9k and 15k respectively due to their hosed up genetics? I always got the impression that they were among the smaller ones. I just finished reading the Armageddon Re-issue, does anyone recommend the Scars book for an entertaining read? I'm looking for some fun Spacemans fighting after polishing off Caesar's Conquest of Gaul.
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Aziraphale posted:Just started Descent of Angels. It reads like a rookie dungeon master's first D&D campaign. Knights this, supplicants that, ~~~honour~~~ of The Order. Ugh. There's so much oooh-rah in the first three chapters I almost choked and died. Does the rest of the book read like this? Yup, though they add heaping additions of more melodrama, betrayals, brethern-erns, and ~Mystery~ for the hell of it. Keep reading. Take a shot anytime there's a random encounter.
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Nephilm posted:No, it's a pretty sound reason. While it's possible the Imperium would destroy Cadia if they lost it (which they haven't), it's too valuable a strategic position for Abaddon (who's a pragmatist) to destroy it out of spite - without the Cadian Gate, he loses the ability to launch large-scale incursions into the Imperium. Isn't it set-up to be some kind of Space-Gibraltar? Like the Imperium holds it because it's not only a strategic point but because it's always been held against enemy attacks. If they lost it they'd dump a few trillion guardsmen on it just to have an Eagle somewhere on the planet. Am I over analyzing pulp sci fi again?
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berzerkmonkey posted:Yes, but it isn't just "held to be held," it's the first Imperial system right outside the Eye of Terror. It's the bulwark that stops the full force of the Chaos Black Crusades from getting into the Imperium - kind of like a wave slamming against a seawall. That's pretty much what I meant with the post. The reason I had the "Eagle somewhere on the planet" thing was to mean that it would be fought for until even the most token resistance was obliterated, and that it would never, ever be outright nuked.
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Demiurge4 posted:I expect Milo's "destiny" to be something akin to dying for some greater purpose, maybe he kills a demon as it swats the saint ensuring Imperial victory. The saint will die though, because she's a martyr or perhaps Milo is her martyr? Who the gently caress knows. Everything has alluded to Milo being important to the overall crusade, in fact I think Tanith burned for no other reason than to kill Milo and prevent his destiny. Was it General Kiodorus or something that was the Saint's top gun in Sabbat Martyr? That's who I believe Milo is being built up to be. Or maybe Gaunt, I honestly can't tell. From what I've gleaned from the whole series, and from a throwaway line in Pariah, is that Abnett seems to be trying to paint the Saints/Wars/Crusades as endlessly cyclical with similar events and individuals arising in each iteration. The line I was thinking of was Blackwards telling Beta that St. Orpheus comes around every couple of centuries and that there is always bodyguard X, etc. The idea that Imperial saints are "good" daemons is also pretty badass and I would love to see this explored in other BL books more often.
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Arquinsiel posted:Do the Kal Jericho and other Necromunda books go into much detail? I never bothered to read them but they seem like the kind of thing that'd be mostly civilian life. They seemed to focus on a very specific set of lifestyles in a hive. Like I'd say they give as good a portrayal of day to day civilian life as the bar and space port did in Star Wars. Though you should read them just for THE REDEEMER (or redemptionist) I forget.
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I might have asked up-thread, but is Litany of Hate any good? I got a couple of long flights coming up and want some bolter-porn so I don't have to talk to my coworker.
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von Metternich posted:I just read Dead Men Walking, and I liked it, but...I was supposed to be rooting for the Necrons, right? The author seemed to veer between portraying the Death Korps as horrible people and praising their virtues in an unconvincing way. It was the same way with the main character-the author seemed to want to portray him as a pretty worthless person in his former life, but a god damned hero once he joined the Guard. The last chapter especially, about him being a hero and marching to (almost certainly) his pointless death for all his friends, seemed too positive. Either the author is deliberately being more nuanced than I give him credit for, or else writing bolter-porn has seriously screwed up his values...anybody know which? It's been a couple of years since I read the book but I went with the nuanced way of looking at it. The training section went so far out of its way to hammer in the fact that they were stripping the humanity away and turning the recruits into machines. A kind of "we make monsters to fight monsters" thing, I guess.
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:Where is that image of the Custodes in the Big E text to speech thing from? Is it actually a custodes? Edit: beaten
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This might not be the best place to ask, but does anyone still havethat rant posted by CosmicMuffet (spelling?) about what Chaos is? I was talking with a friend who posts here and I just recall this insane rambling diatribe that was almost perfect to put into a Deathwatch/Dark Heresy game. I know it's a few years old but figured I'd try.
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Shroud posted:Found this little gem on ADB's blog: Is that supposed to be Talos? Edit: Thanks, I honestly thought Night Haunter would be a little more grizzly-looking or something. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Immanentized fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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VanSandman posted:I didn't remember if it was from that far back, but yes - the Warhound titans are definitely wolfish. If it's an actual brain at the center, I don't know, but if it isn't it's a Mechanicum-made copy of one. One way I read the whole Titans having personality things was that the machine spirit's learning ability stored copies of the personalities of previous princeps and that the personalities of each war machine was just a gestalt of common traits of former pilots/crew. I think it was in Mechanicum that a character observed that new vehicles were more easily controlled than those which had seen longer service and more masters. This would explain the pride of the Imperator/Warlords and the cunning and hunting instincts of the Warhounds and smaller items. I'm not saying that there's a literal brain in a jar somewhere, but that there is a piece of hardware that is uses brain tissue in its operation and observes and integrates the behavior and tactics of each operator over time. Wasn't this part of that Titan comic from back in the 90s?
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bunnyofdoom posted:So, after reading The Emperor's Gift I realized how Gaunt's Ghost will end. Yup, you can all guess exactly. Something like 1st and Only transport goes "missing" in transit?
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bunnyofdoom posted:So, I found recently the Sabbat War anthology. I have only read the ADB story in it, which was pretty decent in and of itself. How's the rest? I enjoyed it, I think the Sabbat Crusade setting is probably one of the more fleshed out "modern" 40k settings and the anthology benefited from a higher quality of work because of all the foundations laid by Abnett. Edit: Is it bad that I want an entire book from Eszrah's ap Niht's POV? Moth-man meets Imperial Guard seems like too good of a story point to pass up. Immanentized fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Shadeoses posted:Re: derivative video games, a shooter along the lines of Spec Ops: The Line could be awesome. Have your character be in charge of a bunch of Imperial Guardsmen, as you fight and die across some horrible hellscape. Everything turns even more to poo poo as you progress, you have to do horrible things and go crazy, and in the end you get executed by a commissar. Wasn't Fire Warrior basically this, but with Tau? edit: *and awful. Immanentized fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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So, Dan Abnett just linked to a game currently in development based on Eisenhorn- Xenos. No solid details yet, but it's going to be a mobile based 3D action game. Link: https://www.pixelherogames.com/xenos-announced
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Waroduce posted:Is this a book? Or a video series or what? It's a book, but made by the Forge World subsidiary. It has a ton of awesome art as well as rules for playing Heresy-era 40k.
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Mikojan posted:Totally offtopic here but a long time ago someone made a brilliant description of Chaos in the warhammer universe. I know it was user cosmicmuffet or something in the last 40k megathread. I've been looking for the quote myself but haven't had much luck. If you have archives you should be able to search for it. Immanentized fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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