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Big E understands how to manipulate people, but not how to raise sons. He's a lovely dad.
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Arquinsiel posted:One of the Shiria Calpurnia novels is exactly that. Whichever one revolves around the Rogue Trader contract signed by the Emperor himself. Basically everyone wants it for various reasons. That's a part of Nemesis, isn't it? That daemon-assassin thing wants the contract so it can consume E's blood and assassinate him or some poo poo as I recall.
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Jun 30, 2014 02:08
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AndyElusive posted:I've never read a Shiria Calpurnia novel and it's been a while since I've read Nemesis but why do I remember there being some kind of plot to get the Emperors blood from a Rogue Trader permission slip by some kind of demon assassin as well? Was that its back up plan or something? I'm sure there was, because I have never read a Shira Calpurnia novel either and yet I distinctly remember that godawful plot point. I concur, however, that Nemesis is inexcusably dumb.
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Jun 30, 2014 03:03
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Fried Chicken posted:Yep, ok, this is how they are in my mind now. That fits too well to be anything otherwise They are the Bearers of the Word. That word: 'MURRICA.
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Jul 16, 2014 19:27
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Ardent Communist posted:Yeah, I really liked that aspect. It shows how all the different forces of the Imperium deal with Titans. The Guard armour, has a plan, tanks, can technically do something, but if their titan doesn't show, they're totally screwed. The top grade PDF, from the start of the book, has a crappy scanner, can make it's way around undetected for awhile, but if a titan detects them, they're totally screwed. The low grade PDF? They're literally meat shields. The game itself does a good job of demonstrating just how ludicrously powerful the titans are. Even the smallest ones can melt large swathes of an army in a single turn of shooting, and as they get bigger the firepower gets even more extreme. There are ways to take them down without using another titan, but it's rare that large numbers of your troops/vehicles/buildings don't wind up incinerated in exchange. Of course, when they finally go down they have a tendency to explode violently and melt everything within a pretty large radius around them.
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Aug 20, 2014 06:06
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maev posted:The more interesting thing than being Manipulated By Aliens is what exactly the Alpha Legion are about Post Heresy, its almost begging for a book set around 40k with the Alpha Legion at the helm. Whatever convoluted background the Alpha Legion have its likely that no one story will ever encapsulate the Legion, especially since its been mentioned a few times that the Legion is massive and operates completely independently of even itself around the galaxy. That's how I see the 40k Alpha Legion. They went too deep, lost the plot, and more or less fell to Chaos as a result... though a good few of them aren't even aware of it.
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Aug 26, 2014 01:27
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One Legged Cat posted:Haha no, I like making money and intelligent decisions Eh, one out of two ain't bad.
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Sep 1, 2014 19:37
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pentyne posted:More like 1/3 out of 2. GW has fallen pretty far since their heyday. I was being immensely facetious.
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Sep 5, 2014 06:11
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Safety Factor posted:Stop after God Emperor. Do not continue. God Emperor is my favorite of the series, but things get really weird and bad after that. God Emperor was a good kind of weird. That book hosed with my head when I read it at 17.
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Sep 14, 2014 21:53
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Cythereal posted:It crops up in Unremembered Empire. The Space Wolves have taken it upon themselves to start policing the supposedly loyal Legions and Primarchs just in case they're not as loyal as they seem. Not so much taken upon themselves as filling the role they (and possibly the World Eaters) were designed to do in the first place.
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Sep 19, 2014 17:31
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Angron's character development stops because he is a wreck of a human being; the nails were implanted in his adolescence and more or less stopped any sort of emotional development in its tracks. To me, at least, it's what makes him sympathetic-- he knows that he has tremendous power, but also that there is something fundamentally wrong with him and that he can't really come to grips with it or fix it.
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Oct 2, 2014 03:07
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It's been a while since I read Legion, but I've been wondering for a while if anyone is ever witness to Alpharius/Omegon other than the "twins" themselves. In other words, is it possible that there's some weird Tyler Durden thing going on with him?
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Jan 6, 2015 06:27
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Waroduce posted:Blessed is the wallet too full for debt Fixed that for you!
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Jan 16, 2015 18:58
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The Dragon Never Sleeps by Glen Cook is military sci-fi too (and you might try his Black Company stories if you're willing to dip into fantasy). If you're looking for an interesting BL book a little off the beaten path, you might try Titanicus by Dan Abnett. While loads of 40k books mention titans, books written from the perspective of their crews are a little less common.
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Jan 23, 2015 03:14
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:I've just finished Flight of the Eisenstein, and found it thoroughly entertaining after the beginning portion, before actually boarding the Eisenstein. I've also gotten my hands on Ian Watson's "Space Marine", after hearing it is quite the thing. Fulgrim sounds like it might be a good read, but it comes to my attention that Descent of Angels has listed under, "Other Non-Astartes Imperials" the Emperor of Mankind. Don't tell me they bloody screwed it up, because the Emperor himself being around is a pretty crazy concept. The Emperor also appears in the First Heretic and Outcast Dead.
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Feb 2, 2015 21:12
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Baka-nin posted:Ya'll are forgetting his appearance in that much loved classic Nemesis. More like repressing.
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Feb 3, 2015 00:51
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:You should read Battle for the Abyss. It's a very unique book in the setting, nothing quite comes close to its level of quality. Nemesis is very close to it in terms of how well it is written and the contribution it makes to the canon.
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Dec 12, 2015 20:50
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Deptfordx posted:£1240, why not buy two? I've built the two smaller Imperial titans, the warhound and most recently the reaver. There is no way I will ever consider building a warlord.
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Feb 6, 2016 07:52
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:The issue with the HH books is the scale's a bit more extreme than that. Horus Rising is middling in that sense. You need to read a true classic of the HH series like Battle for the Abyss and then compare it to utter shite like Know No Fear. Honestly, you can just skip to Battle for the Abyss after the first three books, nothing in between them is of any value. How can you fail to mention Nemesis? It's every bit as good as Battle for the Abyss, perhaps more so.
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Sep 25, 2016 21:02
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Nemesis is actually kinda fun though. Battle for the Abyss is just trash. If Nemesis was fun to you, you should be scared.
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Sep 25, 2016 21:23
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Dog_Meat posted:I've got a friend who is just getting into 40k and he keeps calling me to say "am I reading this right?". He's also loving the absurdness and macabre insanity of it. This is one of the most cogent descriptions of why 40k is so awesome that I have ever read. Fearless fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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Nov 21, 2016 02:50
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One of the Gray Knights codices mentions the fact that there is a box on Titan in the GK fortress monastery that is marked with the same sigils as the Golden Throne itself. Precisely what it does, nobody knows, but the right to use it is granted to the Grand Master of the Gray Knights should it ever appear that humanity is about to fall.
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Jan 19, 2017 05:58
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Cythereal posted:Especially the chapters that already have geneseed problems, like the Imperial Fists and Raven Guard. Didn't the Alpha Legion steal those?
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Jun 6, 2017 08:24
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pentyne posted:Have the 2 missing primarchs ever materialized in the fluff? I recall the whole one legion was sanctioned by the wolves and one suffered a tragedy and when Horus was doing his chaos coma he walked by the 2 chambers and commented on how much potential was cut short. GW has said repeatedly that they will not flesh out the two lost primarchs as they want that avenue to be available for homebrew space marine chapters. Anything that has been said has been circumstantial at best.
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Aug 15, 2017 08:50
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D-Pad posted:See that just confuses me more. The specific use in the book I am talking about is in the 200th year of the campaign during the beginning Horus Heresy, so it was long after the Council of Nikea. That psyker also references his teacher who presumably had been using his powers for long before as well. Which would mean the Dark Angels never stopped using their Psykers after the council for the timeline to make sense. I think that the understanding was generally that the Warp itself is hazardous to material life, but the knowledge of the sentient beings that dwelled there (i.e. the gods of Chaos) was actively suppressed.
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Sep 17, 2017 05:01
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MariusLecter posted:I got the impression, specifically from Betrayer audiobook, that World Eaters were the slavs of 40k. The Terrans that formed the first recruit classes of the legion were drawn mainly from what is now eastern Europe. The Death Guard, interestingly enough, came from the British Isles (or whatever they are in 30k, since all of Terra's oceans have been evaporated).
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Sep 27, 2017 06:48
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Endman posted:Master of Mankind drops a lot of little hints that the Emperor's backstory might not be true. As I recall, one of those flashbacks featured the Emperor covering a skull of a deceased relative with clay, and using sea shells to replicate eyes. This practice was common (look up the Jericho skull, for an example) in the eastern Mediterranean several thousand years before the common era, which is supposedly when the Big E was born/created. My suspicion is that the allegation that the Emperor is a Dark Age weapon gone wild is simply a theory from observers to explain a being that really just doesn't make sense any other way. Katt posted:I thought Chaos Gods worked on the same logic as Discworld gods. In that their power is directly related to the number of worshipers or even just people who are aware of and dread them. It's more that they are empowered by specific emotions and activities reflecting them-- rage, lust, ambition and despair. Worshipful followers are great and all, but the gods themselves achieved sentience through psychically active species doing and feeling things that riled up the warp in particular ways so they don't necessarily need an organized religion. Fearless fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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Nov 18, 2017 10:00
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Are there any stereotypical American themed imperial guard regiments in the setting? I know there are some old over-the-top regiments, like the praetorian guard (see image), but for the life of me I can’t think of anything that is overly influenced by the USA except for the John Rambo’s in Catachan. Mordian Iron Guard are partially based off of the late 19th century USMC as I recall.
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Dec 5, 2017 03:06
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DirtyRobot posted:Aren't there also rumours of Ferrus Manus coming back in 40k (or he already is, and he's leading the Legion of the Damned or some weird thing)? Well, the whole gorgon/medusa thing that is associated with the Iron Hands would lead one to believe that their primarch's severed head would be of some sort of importance later on... assuming they were able to recover it from the traitors in the first place.
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Mar 9, 2018 09:03
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Immanentized posted:Doesn't fabulous Bill have it? I think so? I also seem to remember a line in the second of the 30k campaign books that mentioned that the Iron Hands were able to recover it.
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Mar 9, 2018 18:47
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Groetgaffel posted:That does sound the most likely. Yeah I don't see GW going all-in on a Bene Tleilax analogue these days.
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Mar 11, 2018 20:19
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Groetgaffel posted:Well, if you ask me, Nemesis is worse. That's because it truly is.
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Apr 20, 2018 10:44
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Orv posted:You know I've always thought of the explosive portion of a bolter round as delayed, even a little bit, but I guess if your bullet is actually a rocket then there's not a lot of time you need to delay to explode inside the average Astartes target. They're described as having a delayed explosive warhead in a lot of the canon.
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Aug 21, 2018 15:08
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MariusLecter posted:I never considered that description of being a very long delay at all. Like milliseconds after impact where the "Mass Reactive" part kicks in where I read it as the round reacting to hitting something, it's either gone through or not. Either way it's gonna make a boom. I don't think it's a long delay at all-- just long enough to let burrow into the target a little and blast a big chunk out of it. Naval armour piercing shells worked in a similar fashion: the initial impact armed a fuse, which detonated the charge a split second later.
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Aug 23, 2018 02:58
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There's a callback too in one of the 30k books that mentions the Emperor's childhood, and his tribe's practice of using clay and sea shells to sculpt the features of deceased loved ones over their defleshed skulls. That's something that has been observed in Neolithic Anatolia. And Ahriman owns the Voynich Manuscript and allegedly translated it.
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Sep 15, 2019 03:11
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Arquinsiel posted:Turns out it's just a bunch of well known Latin abbreviations, and it's two cobbled together gynaecological manuals from the 1500's with bits cribbed from various sources as far back as Galen. Are you basing this off of what the University of Bristol researcher was claiming? Because I think that has been largely refuted.
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Sep 15, 2019 06:31
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Arquinsiel posted:Nah, something older which has apparently also been refuted. It's all good. The bullshit flies fast and thick with the Voynich manuscript.
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Sep 16, 2019 13:31
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It squares with what the Emperor said about precognition-- that he knows specific details about the future, but the path to those points is obscured to him.
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Oct 6, 2019 22:28
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Relevant Tangent posted:To me letting someone come back from full Daemon Prince/Primarch would be dumb. It's not like you accidentally ascended to that status. Going to be harder to justify than some idiot who spent the last ten thousand years fighting off that particular apotheosis seizing the moment and high-fiving Guilliman in the Ultimate Bro Moment. Angron was slowly dying/degenerating and was more or less duped into it. It definitely wasn't something he intentionally set out to achieve. That said, I don't see him switching sides!
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Worth remembering too that by the time of the Heresy, Angron's markedly degenerated from what he was after being reunited with his Legion. Angron's later actions may not square with the wise Spartacus archetype he might have represented earlier on, but they fit quite well with the rage-monster more or less bleached of his humanity that he was by the time he became a daemon prince.
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