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Mowglis Haircut posted:Fire Warrior I thought was actually surprisingly good. It's fairly close to the plot of the videogame, but the main Tau character goes gradually insane as the whole thing is on his first day on the job. I remember enjoying it. And Xenology is excellent but expensive to get hold of now. It's a background book, sort of, but it has a quite spooky story about isolation running through it. Xenology is awesome, too. Hell, I'll just say that if it was written by Simon Spurrier, it's worth reading. Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jul 8, 2012 |
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drkhrs2020 posted:I did not know CS Goto was that bad. In "Let the Galaxy Burn" short story collection his contribution was one of the few I actually remembered any detail about. Most of them were just some variation of poo poo falling apart for someone. His other Dawn of War books nosedive in quality pretty quick, though. He also writes about Eldar a lot and I'm not a huge Eldar fan, but that's not exactly his fault. I do have a few of his books in my completely ridiculous stack of Black Library books that I got for dirt-cheap and haven't read yet, so maybe my opinion of him will change.
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drkhrs2020 posted:How's the novel based on the Tau FPS Fire Warrior? The Amazon reviews are pretty evenly divided between "great" and "complete poo poo".
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I think I know the answer to this question but has Dan Abnett continued the Eisenhorn vs Ravenor trilogy past the first book? And speaking of Abnett, there was never a sequel to Double Eagle, was there?
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Fellblade posted:I read he is actually writing a sequel now, as opposed to the past 3 years where he wasn't writing poo poo due to Black Library management issues. I'm just curious, what sort of management issues?
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I've been out of the loop on 40k books for several years now (I think the last book I read when it was "new" was Fulgrim?), a couple questions: Have there been any more Ciaphas Cain books since Cain's Last Stand? Have there been any books with/about Necrons that are worth my time? I think Necrons are neat, and I'm even pretty okay with the backstory overhaul they got in their last codex. Have there been any more neat "reference" books like Xenology? That book was a hoot. I remember there being a Sabbat Worlds book from around the same time, too? I know it's WH Fantasy, but I've also got Liber Chaotica.
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Sep 6, 2017 18:51
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mllaneza posted:The World Engine isn't a great novel as a novel (no surprise), but it's fantastic, fully Well I'm sold. Looks like the cheapest copy on Amazon is about $12 shipped, that's a little more than I'd like to spend on a paperback, but that's okay. It looks like the prices are even higher on eBay.
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Sep 7, 2017 06:19
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bolter porn with Necrons as the bad guys. Grab it if you like Necrons..
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Uncle w Benefits posted:This looks spectacularly bad Are those Necrons I spy on the cover?
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I feel like I've been out of the loop for too long, who is ADB?
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I’ve been playing a lot of Freeblade on my iPhone lately, are there any worthwhile books about Imperial Knights?
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As a very long lapsed 40k reader (I think the last book I read when it was “new” was Mechanicum?), I just ordered the Night Lords omnibus and the Forges of Mars omnibus based on the recommendations in this thread. I’ve never read anything by Aaron Dembski-Bowden (I don’t think he was even in the BL stable of authors when I stopped reading?) but I keep seeing people say he’s amazing so I’m looking forward to his stuff. I also dig the Mechanicus and I thought Mechanicum was a good time, so I’m hoping to enjoy Forges of Mars, too. I don’t have any real feelings about the Night Lords other than thinking the book Lords of Night by Simon Spurrier was pretty great. I like Spurrier quite a bit as an author; Fire Warrior is one of my favorite 40k novels and is drastically better than the game it’s based on, Xenology is fantastic and I wish BL put out more books in that style, and I’ve also really liked Spurrier’s non-BL work.
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Cooked Auto posted:Ain't that the loving truth. Still waiting for a sequel to The Sabbat Worlds crusades to come out because that one stopped at His Last Command and there's been two(?) more omnibuses of stuff by now to cover and whole bunch more poo poo.
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Feb 13, 2018 00:23
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Has he done any other AdMech stuff than Mechanicum and Forges of Mars?
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berzerkmonkey posted:This. It excuses them from having to spend too much time editing books and writing themselves into a corner or not being able to easily replace a thing with something cooler in the future. And I love that method of “canon” (I call it “fuzzy continuity”) and I wish more franchises would adopt it. It almost instantly resolves any minor continuity flubs. Groetgaffel posted:A bit too on the nose perhaps, yeah. Didn't bother me overly much though, I always had the impression that the old important dudes used to be on the highest echelons of the old Legion reading Storm of Iron. poo poo, have it start in the 20th century, and advance at the same rate chronologically as the HH series until you catch up with the HH books. “The Holocaust happens, the Emperor does nothing.” “Humanity brings itself to the brink of nuclear annihilation during the Cold War, the Emperor does nothing.” Just think: literal tens of thousands of Black Library novels, advancing at a snail’s pace. It would be glorious.
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Feb 13, 2018 15:04
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Don’t forget Liber Chaotica.
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I own the collected Liber Chaotica but I haven’t gone page by page with it (yet), doesn’t it have some thinly veiled 40k shout-outs?
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Feb 14, 2018 22:21
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The Necrons were great in Dark Crusade, they were like a freight train. Slow to get moving, but once they were rolling they were unstoppable.
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Philthy posted:Oh hey, 2,000,000 of my necrons just got bulldozed after 30 minutes during that war of attrition.  I think I might have to do another Necron crusade. I’ve done it like 11 times, but it’s been several years since the last Cleansing.
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bunnyofdoom posted:I haven't played since I was a teen but I seem to have the disk still. And I just finished BFG (which made my laptop chug like a motherfucker). I guess it's reinstall time! It’s on Steam as well. I’m not sure if multiplayer is still a thing with that game, but I’d be down for some friendly Goon games. My Steam ID is xenomrph.
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Feb 16, 2018 18:38
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I’ve got a 30% off coupon for Barnes & Noble burning a hole in my pocket, what should I get. I’ve already got the Forges of Mars and Night Lords omnibii and a bunch of the other greatest hits like Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Ciaphas Cain, and the first four Gaunt’s Ghosts books.
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Feb 17, 2018 18:28
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Baneblade sounds tempting, I like tanks and the Baneblade in Dawn of War 1 was pretty goddamn righteous. I’m building an Imperial Knight model right now just because it looks cool, but a Baneblade is real high up on my list of “build it because it looks sweet” models.
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Feb 17, 2018 21:09
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I could only use the coupon on one item, grabbed Baneblade. Between that and the two omnibii I got last wwwk, that’s like 2000 pages of Black Library to keep me busy. Also bonus Imperial Knight WIP: 
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Feb 18, 2018 00:45
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I love the Cain books (enough so that I got the limited-run Ciaphas Cain miniature). I agree that they're repetitive, but I'm not bothered by it, either.
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Feb 18, 2018 06:28
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I just Necron-stomped Chaos out of existence in my new campaign. Fuckin’ retard infantry kept straying too close to the Khorne pulse beacons and getting instakilled. 
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Last night I took down the Imperial Guard, their “home base” level is one of my favorites, and a lot more fun than Chaos. It really feels like the IG have this overwhelming defensive line and they’re shelling the poo poo out of you as they throw waves of infantry at your base, and slowly dismantling them is really satisfying. Did Soulstorm have a “global campaign” mode similar to Dark Crusade? I might have to run a Necron campaign in that game too.
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After playing a bunch of Necrons again, I do kinda wish they had more unit variety. I pretty much run the same exact build order and units every map, and just steamroll the enemy base. I hardly have to give any consideration to unit specialization, their troops have no wargear, retinues, or real upgrades, and a few of their units are flat out useless (wraiths, immortals, destroyer lord), as are a lot of the Lord upgrades (I take Phylactry, Resurrection Orb, and Veil of Darkness every time). I mean yeah mowing down anything with a hail of green lightning while a Monolith lays down big green explosions is neat, but by the 25th time it feels a little stale.
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Arcsquad12 posted:As sad as it was to see Dawn of War go down in flames, seeing Battlefleet Gothic Armada take up the mantle for 40K games is nice. I just want a sequel to Space Marine, that game was fun as hell. On that note, if any of you guys are on Xbox Live and want to play Space Marine horde mode co-op, my gamertag is Xenomrph 01.
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There’s a sort of “dogfight” tabletop game now, right? I’ve seen one with Tau vs Necron, and Eldar vs Ork. Are they any fun? And is the Necron fighter different from the usual crescent-shaped whatever that Necrons have now?
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berzerkmonkey posted:That was the last edition of 40K, technically. Stormcloud Attack. I'm not 100% sure if it was a standalone game or based off 7ed rules. Whatever the case, they aren't selling it anymore. It’s at my local GW store right now, that’s why I asked.
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Feb 21, 2018 20:37
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Christ that’s a lot of books. Edit— at this stage are there more 40k books than Star Wars books? I think there might be.
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390 Star Wars novels sounds way, way high unless they’re counting, like, children’s books, YA stuff, etc. And this is me speaking as a former Star Wars turbonerd who read every EU novel I could get my hands on, up until the end of the New Jedi Order series.
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Arcsquad12 posted:But when they did get sex they went full on child molestation. Troy Denning is loving scum. Whoa, what?
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Arcsquad12 posted:A thirty year old woman molests Luke Skywalker's fourteen year old son while strapping him down to a torture chair. Yikes. That must have been after I jumped ship with the Star Wars EU, I don’t think Luke’s kid was much older than a newborn in the New Jedi Order.
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The first line says it’s a full length novel, and then it’s accompanied by a bunch of short stories that act as prelude material to said novel. I didn’t even know we were getting a new Eisenhorn novel until, like, last week. I was in my local GW store and the GM was talking about how this Saturday is Black Library’s 20th anniversary so they’ll have signed copies of the new book, a new Eisenhorn miniature (with gameplay stats), stuff they’ll be giving away, and it’ll generally be a party. I like supporting my local GW nerd store, and the GM is a genuinely cool dude, and he makes a bit of a frowny sad face when I buy Warhammer stuff from anywhere other than GW, but Magos is on sale for $6 under retail at Amazon versus the full retail I’d pay in the GW shop. An Eisenhorn mini sounds cool too but something tells me the full retail price will make me balk a little bit, too.
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I’ve got the old Ciaphas Cain mini, it’s funny how self-aware it is once you realize it’s depicting a propaganda moment. Cain is holding the wrong gun (just as he does on the cover of every Cain book) and behind the mound of alien heads he’s standing on is a step stool - it’s all faked and deliberately posed for propaganda purposes.
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Okay, I’m going to go ahead and ask it. Warhammer40k live action movie. Could it be done? Should it be done? I’d love to see it happen, and for it to be given the Lord of the Rings trilogy treatment - a lot of practical effects and physical props/costumes, forced-perspective trickery to show height differences, not a crazy over-reliance on questionable CGI like the Hobbit trilogy, etc. There’s no way to do it in one movie and have it be coherent and cover enough of the “world”. I’d say start off small-scale in the first movie and hint at something larger, and gradually build to bigger things. Don’t even focus on Space Marines in the movie, instead keep them as mythical god-warriors that the characters speak of in hushed tones, so that when the Space Marines do show up as a badass asskicking force, it’s truly memorable. Hard-R rating, especially once Chaos shows up. I’m not saying everything needs to be Buckets Of Blood, but I don’t think it’s possible to do Chaos justice and showcase how hosed up and warped they are without an R-rating. Be ready to piss the fans off, and don’t cater to their whims unless it actually serves the storytelling. Fans are idiots and it’s impossible to please everyone - I like Necrons a lot but I’d never dream of putting them in the first or even second Warhammer movie in anything bigger than a name-drop.
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Fellblade posted:Anybody who thinks they should do a 40k movie needs to go watch Ultramarines and then never have that thought again. I’ve seen that movie, and the biggest conceptual problem it has is that it’s about Space Marines - like others (and myself) said, the best way to initially treat Space Marines is as this barely-seen force of destruction that swoops in like a Deus Ex Machina, wrecks the enemy’s poo poo, and vanishes as the heroes say “holy loving poo poo, I’m glad those guys are on our side”. Showing Space Marines as (trans)human characters with personalities and opinions and flaws is all well and good, but I think that’s the sort of thing you save for later stories - at first it’s important to show just how physically superior they are to normal everyday people. I agree that the right way to do a 40k movie is to focus on normal people, but I don’t think something like Eisenhorn is the first thing I’d want to see as a movie. Eisenhorn owns, but for a story set in a galaxy where “there is only war”, doesn’t the Eisenhorn trilogy feature approximately 0 battles or battlefields? Leading with Eisenhorn is like if the first Star Wars movie was ‘Solo’, rather than A New Hope. I’d save Eisenhorn for later, when you want to tell a (freaking great) character-driven “side story”.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Aren't the smallest imperial starfighters the size of a 747 jumbo jet? The ones in Double Eagle came across to me as being WWII fighter sized. I mean unless you’re making a distinction between atmospheric fighters and stuff that operates in a vacuum I guess.
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Senjuro posted:Doesn't matter. They're by far the most prominent and popular part of 40k. Any movie where they don't get a lot of screen time is going to draw lots of complaints. Complaints from a vocal minority that doesn’t understand good storytelling, and should be rightly ignored. Fans are dumb, catering strictly to the fans rarely works well unless there’s inherent mass-market appeal in doing so (Deadpool, Dredd). Catering “to the fans” can sometimes result in a legit great movie (Blade Runner 2049) but that doesn’t guarantee box office returns. The fans make you some box office money, but the real dollars come from literally everyone else. I’d much rather see a well made movie with interesting characters and good writing, that respects the source material enough to recognize its storytelling limitations. Starting with Space Marines would get the fans onboard, sure, but they were already onboard to begin with and were going to buy tickets no matter what the movie ended up being, and will buy tickets for the sequel even if they vehemently hated the first one because that’s what fans do. They don’t need to be catered to. Zasze posted:Just give me a movie of the world eaters flagship captain being a huge badass. Her response to angron becoming a demon being just to jettison him out to space was great. What is this from?
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Zasze posted:Magos trip report, not abnetts best written book but i quite enjoyed the story however i think it gives away too much of the mystery surrounding pariah and should be read after it for sure.
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