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I had a Nikon D80 for many years, which I loved, and Nikons prior to that, but about three years ago I decided to get rid of it (and lenses) as it was both obsolete and I wanted something more compact. I ended up with the Fujifilm X-E3. In many respects it is a great camera (and the lenses are terrific) but I still find the user interface utterly bewildering, with the result being that I don't actually enjoy using it that much or have as much control over what I am shooting as I could. I love the Nikon interface, which ha apparently been continued into the new mirrorless range. I am not a serious photographer but I know enough to know what I want and need. I have narrowed the bodies down to the Z50 and the Z FC - my decision will be made when I get a chance to handle them. For general and travel use the 16-50 seems like a no-brainer. However, my main other use is portraiture, and here I am stuck. My options, as I see it: 1) 50mm 1.8 z. Apparently a terrific lens, but will it be long enough? 2) 85mm 1.8z. Also great, but maybe too long? I used to have an 85mm 1.8 on the D80; on a full frame it was amazing (I loved that lens), but on the APS size it'll be equivalent to about 128mm, which I think might be too long. (I want something ideally between 85-105mm equivalent). I considered the FTZ and something like a 58mm 1.4 but it's way too expensive and I am not sure what effect the FTZ will have on speed and quality. Alternatively, I could go for the Z5, 24-70/4, and the 85mm 1.8, but that does end up being a lot more expensive (about £400 more than Z50 kit with 85mm), and bigger and heavier (lighter weight simply means I will use the camera more). Any thoughts? Anything I haven't considered?
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LiterallyATomato posted:Thank you for the advice! I'll check out those other lenses. The 85 1.8 is a gorgeous lens. It’s a portrait classic. therattle fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Dec 28, 2022 |
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Dec 28, 2022 19:50
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Wibla posted:Z5, 24-50, 85mm maybe? I think on a full frame that’s too short a focal range. I looked at the 24-70/4 but it is quite pricy, and looks really heavy. The 16-50 with equivalent FR is much better value, albeit a bit slower, and MUCH lighter.
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Dec 28, 2022 20:02
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Clayton Bigsby posted:I have yet to find an F-mount lens that doesn't work at least as well on the Z bodies with the FTZ as on a native one. There should be zero impact on image quality since there are no optics in the adapter, and autofocus is great. I have the 58/1,4 as one of my few F mount lenses (since there's no real Z mount replacement for it) and love it but yes, it is kind of pricy. The 50/1,8 Z mount lens is a better overall option though it lacks the character of the 58. (Yes, I own both, and yes I might have a problem) That’s really interesting to hear. I am slightly concerned about the weight of the FTZ, but more than that there isn’t an obvious F lens that I’d want to use it with that solves my problem. Thinking on it further the 85mm probably isn’t too long at 1.5x; I’ll probably go with that and the 16-50. I can always swap it for a 50 if it’s too long.
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Dec 28, 2022 21:42
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big black turnout posted:After a decade of sporadically shooting film and now having three kids to document growing up, I picked up a D750 this year (don't need 4k video, wanted something I could share lenses with a film slr). I have an 85mm for portraiture, a 50mm for... 50mm things, and a 200-500mm telephoto. When I was taking pictures of the kids opening presents for Christmas this year, I found 50 to still be a bit long. Any suggestions for something a bit wider that isn't too distorted and is fast enough for indoors? 35 or 28 1.8?
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Dec 28, 2022 23:00
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Wibla posted:There's also this Sony - Nikon Z adapter that lets you use Sony lenses, might be worth looking at for compact Sony system lenses, too. That’s a great idea. I think there a Canon one too. Alas, nothing in the 60-75mm range apart from some macros at f2.8. I really want f2 or faster. (I love the DOF and shooting in natural light).
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Dec 29, 2022 00:13
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Brrrmph posted:I’ll second this if you want a solid 35 that won’t blow you away but is a great compact lens for the money. If you spend about twice as much (used for both) you could also get the Sigma 35 1.4 art which is a fantastic lens, though significantly heavier. The Sigma is the kind of lens that is so good for everyday use it may never leave your camera. This post made me reexamine my old prejudice against third-party lenses. So I did some searching for Z-mount third-party lenses and learned about this lens, which has just been announced and will be coming out for the Z mount later this year: Viltrox 75mm f1.2. Apparently really excellent. Some minor AF issues (which might be somewhat resolved by release) but optically outstanding, within the exact focal length range I was after, and cheaper and faster than the 85mm (and probably about the same price as the 50, but faster). In the interim I might pick up a used FTZ and used 50/1.8 G and then sell them on when the Viltrox comes out (or just keep them...). Park Cameras have a 50% off the FTZII when buying certain Z cameras.... As soon as my son is back at school I'll have to pay them a visit. Any recommendations for other better places in London (ideally central, north, or east?) therattle fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Dec 29, 2022 |
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Dec 29, 2022 19:02
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DanTheFryingPan posted:The 24-70/4 Z has been bundled so much it's now under 400€ used, and that's great value. It's not exactly small, not too light, and having to extend the lens before you start shooting can be annoying. I went to a camera shop yesterday to try out bodies and lenses. I really liked the Z5 but it’s bigger and heavier than the Z50, and, crucially, the full-frame lenses are too. They had a used 24-70/4 that I tried on the body and I may as well go DSLR at that size and weight. The CN handled like dogshit. I was hoping to like it (I like the way my Fuji xe3 feels) but it felt all wrong. I liked the Z50. They did not have the bundle with just the 16-50, but for an extra £120 they had the 16-50 and 50-250 bundle. It looks like I can sell the 50-250’for about £200, so I bought it. It feels like a cheaper, lower-spec camera than the Fuji - because it is - but the grip and positioning of the controls feels very good, and the interface feels like coming home. It’s so much more straightforward and intuitive. I loved my N80s (I had two: one for colour and one for b&w). I loved my D80. I don’t think I’ll love the Z50 in the same way but I am happy with it. Now just waiting for the Viltrox 75 1.2. The guy at the camera shop gave me the name of a specialist viltrox dealer who gets lenses quicker and cheaper than this chain does, which was nice of him. (He uses Viltrox and loves them).
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Jan 5, 2023 19:30
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I didn’t realise that Viltrox made a 56 1.4 until today. I love the 85mm focal length on full frame, so this would give the perfect equivalent on APS. And it’ll be faster than my old 85/1.8. Apparently it’s an excellent lens; I could not believe how cheap it was! I’ve bought one. Thanks thread, for opening my eyes to third-party lenses!
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Jan 28, 2023 23:04
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Philthy posted:People poo poo on those cheap lenses but I absolutely love my TTArtisan 25mm f2. I grabbed their 23mm f1.4 hoping for the same rendering but for more low light and I'm not sure where it stands yet. It hasn't made me raise my eyebrows when I've come home. I'll need to try it out at night alongside the f2 and compare. I used to also but I read the reviews of the Viltrox lenses and they are absolutely unanimously strongly positive (leaving aside the amazing price).
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Jan 29, 2023 19:21
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Viltrox 56/1.4 arrived today. Initial impressions are very positive. It feels great in the hand. These were at 1/100 and f1.8 on my Z50 
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Jan 31, 2023 17:16
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Brrrmph posted:Those are some impressive whiskers. The sharpness on them is pretty drat good too!
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Jan 31, 2023 21:30
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I also think that lens selection plays a big role. Does one system have a lens or lenses that you really want? What swung it for me with Nikon was the familiar and intuitive user interface.
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Apr 9, 2023 08:30
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Mega Comrade posted:If you really hate lightroom and post editing then consider a Fujifilm. They have pretty fantastic in camera styles and make great jpegs out of the camera. I had an x-e3. Gorgeous camera and great lenses but I found the interface absolutely baffling. It not only prevented me from using the camera how I wanted to but it stopped me from using it much at all. frumpykvetchbot posted:yeah, same here. I have been a Nikon shooter for 30 years but I was "Canon-curious" from time to time. The Sonys were fun I hated their nerdy menus and I felt the camera UI was getting in my way all the time. I never learned to like the ergonomics of the thumb wheel on the back on the Canon bodies. The topside dials and mode selector operation on the Nikon pro bodies have been unchanged since the mid early 90s and it just works better for me. 100% but I experimented with Fuji not Canon. I think that not only is the Nikon interface more familiar to me, but I think just on balance. It’s a very well designed and intuitive interface, even for someone who is unfamiliar with them.
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Apr 9, 2023 09:44
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big black turnout posted:Well gently caress it I pulled the trigger on the F5 because I'm having a bad day and making rash decisions Good luck. That’s a big loving camera.
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Apr 17, 2023 08:18
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Yeast posted:Yeah I have a z7ii as a backup body with me on every shoot, and yes if they eventually do a high res z10 (lol at thinking 46mp is no longer high res, what a world), I’ll grab one. What resolution is enough? Why wound you ever need 100mp? I case you want to zoom in on an image?
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Apr 29, 2023 23:16
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huhu posted:About a year ago I decided to sell my D7500 and lenses and go mirrorless to simplify my setup. I also had never had a full frame so I tried that out as well. I've currently got a Z 5 with the 24-120 lens. I want to get a few new lenses. I'm thinking I want something for low light portraits like a 50mm f/1.4, something for landscapes and star photography like a wide angle f/4, and something for birding like a 70-300. I've looked at the prices for Z lenses and they're all a lot more than I want to spend. I'm thinking of getting the FTZ ii and going with F lenses. Either that, or just get rid of my full frame setup and switch to a crop sensor mirrorless like the Nikon Zfc or the Sony a6400. Thoughts? Look at Viltrox lenses. I’ve got a 56 1.4 which is terrific. They do a pretty big range for Z Mount. The prices are I think quite astonishing for the quality
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May 19, 2023 09:02
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DanTheFryingPan posted:If you want to go crop sensor, and not sure why you would, go for Fuji. Good lens and body selection from enthusiast to pro level stuff. I went from Nikon DSLR to Fuji and then back to Nikon (Z) because I found the Fuji interface so complicated and unintuitive.
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May 19, 2023 13:22
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DanTheFryingPan posted:The old timey physical controls for shutter and aperture, or the menu system? Menu system and other controls. Physical controls were good.
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May 19, 2023 23:56
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Brrrmph posted:The strangest thing about this to me are all the Nikon fanboys online wondering why people would ever use a camera strap. Are we not supposed to be doing that? I assume that’s what it’s there for. I ALWAYS use a strap. That’s why the lugs etc are there!
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Jul 20, 2023 23:40
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I tried a Zfc expecting to like it but after my Fuji film ZE3 it felt like crap.
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Aug 13, 2023 22:54
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huhu posted:I've always felt like Tamron and Sigma were solid 3rd party lenses for Nikon DX. As I'm looking at new lenses for Nikon Z full frame, I only see 3 Tamron and 0 Sigma which is a bummer. Curious what other third party lenses yall would put on the same level as Sigma and Tamron? I’ve got a Viltrox that I am very impressed with. When I went back to Nikon after some years I’d never heard of them but they’re very good and incredible value.
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Mar 24, 2024 21:25
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Yeast posted:Don’t worry the lenses will work in other countries too. But the focus rings will work the other way.
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50mm 1.8 is also an amazing lens for the price and if the D200 is a 2/3 frame the it works really well as a short portrait telephoto.
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