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Paramemetic posted:Presuming you have not actually done this, so hopefully not breaking decorum, but may I ask why? In an early ritual of the OTO a question is posed to the aspirant. This question is "In times of difficulty and danger in whom do you place your trust?" There is only one acceptable answer to this question in the OTO: Myself. If that is the candidate's answer to that question I do not find them fit for Masonry. Sub Rosa fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Feb 7, 2014 |
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I mean, the reason that is the answer is that "There is no god but man."
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2014 04:06 |
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:That or a Dia del Muerte theme party
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2014 03:38 |
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QPZIL posted:That's basically the same view I have. Me, too, but really I think I just didn't want to bring in some weird occult grimoire or something and be a special snowflake.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2014 22:17 |
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patentmagus posted:Has anyone played goat simulator? Yes! It just became available on Steam today for those of us who pre-ordered. I must say it takes me back to when I was going through the degrees.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2014 20:07 |
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I, too, prefer red lightsabersSithsaber posted:I'm pretty sure you guys are still anti commie.
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# ¿ Apr 9, 2014 06:08 |
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Sithsaber posted:Are there creeds the masons outright ban? Shouldn't Thelema and Pentecostal practitioners be shot on sight? In practice you can certainly can find Thelemic or Pentacostal Masons. In terms of Thelema it is worth noting that Crowley himself had went through the degrees in Mexico and considered himself a Mason (he didn't discover the lodge was irregular until presenting himself at a regular lodge). Lon Milo DuQuette is a very well known regular Mason and one of the most authoritative Thelemites currently living. On the other hand (as I've earlier stated in this thread) I personally don't find membership particularly in the OTO compatible with Masonry, and I would personally would most likely black cube someone I knew to be a member.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2014 01:08 |
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Tias posted:I'm aware I suppose, I'm just rather ill and have a hard time keeping job, leisure and friends/family on the level. I'd rather not commit to it, and then opt out because I couldn't handle it. Freemasonry frankly should never interfere with your duty to your God, country, employer, family, or self. If anything it is a source of strength from which to better handle the other duties a man has in this life.
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# ¿ May 27, 2014 08:06 |
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Glorified Scrivener posted:I always figured that if work takes me to the south east I'd affiliate with a Prince Hall lodge instead of an A/F&M, if they'd have me.
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2014 04:54 |
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Sithsaber posted:I don't get why a debate about freemasonry shouldn't go in the freemasonry thread. Hmmm, quite.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2014 20:27 |
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Sithsaber posted:I have no further reason to "disrupt"...conversations about picnics and magazines. Hmmm, quite.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 03:26 |
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I'm actually getting ready to show up to lodge for the first time in over a year myself thanks to a change in my job schedule. I know I won't have that positive of an experience, but I'll just take a positive one. Thanks for the reminder that sometimes it really can be.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2014 03:12 |
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Do you know how that is phrased? Usually in the states when Prince Hall gets recognized the language is something to the effect that Prince Hall is recognized in all states wherein that state's Grand Lodge recognizes Prince Hall. That way that as soon as one of the hold out states mends the divide, nothing has to happen for that state's Prince Hall to be also be recognized.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2014 12:08 |
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1) This varies a lot by location. It is often the case that a lodge will not have proper right to initiate you until you have lived int he jurisdiction for X period of time. I had to wait until I had lived where I was initiated for six months before applying. In the UK I believe it's a slow process compared to the states, but that said, I'm personally in favor of getting in as soon as you can, and then you will have the opportunity to meet new brethren as a traveling man. Just go ahead and start visiting lodges and see if you find a good fit, and remember: to be one, ask one. 2) You don't join the Grand Lodge directly, but rather a subordinate lodge. I'd imagine there are a number of lodges that share the facilities. 3) Not at all.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2014 12:03 |
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legsarerequired posted:giant satanic conspiracy Obviously it's a grand luciferian conspiracy, geez, guys, will they ever get it right?
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2014 06:36 |
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lord1234 posted:I've never visited another lodge outside of a GL visitation where I already knew multiple people, so have never been "tested" before. Is it strange to be nervous?
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2014 08:37 |
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Wouldn't want to stain my pure and spotless snow white emblem of innocence with use! At least mine is actually made of lambskin, apparently not all are.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2014 11:43 |
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Langolas posted:Tell me Masons, whats a good Mason related gift I can get my bud that you would of liked to get yourself? One of my buddies asking for an application?
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2015 11:09 |
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There are so many different flavors of Protestant that it is impossible to say. There are certainly some that think we're the spawn of Satan and so on.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2015 14:19 |
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Keetron posted:The upside of a Christian school is that they educate broadly on all religions ... Really? Is that a regional thing, because usually they only tech their own religious outlook.
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# ¿ May 1, 2015 14:37 |
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Deism actually was considered incompatible with Masonry, at least by some, during that time period. Franklin had deist leanings, and according to something that I read that I wish I could find now to cite, stopped going to lodge after a deist was kicked out in Pennsylvania.
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# ¿ May 2, 2015 14:03 |
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Hope you all aren't taking it lying down.
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# ¿ May 8, 2015 06:02 |
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Solvent posted:I do not believe that openly gay men should be allowed into blue lodge masonry.
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# ¿ May 17, 2015 14:22 |
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Solvent posted:I was going to wait for some realistic responses, but instead all I saw was a suggestion to demit, and go gently caress myself. Solvent posted:For example, there are people who believe that it is still a choice, or mortal sin, or both and no amount of progressive thinking would make it otherwise.
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# ¿ May 18, 2015 05:00 |
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Seriously, the best version of the lovely without merit argument of no gays allowed is that it is immoral to be a sodomite so they are people of ill repute who are not therefore of good report. And this viewpoint is being brought to the thread by Solvent who [...] But yeah, it's the gays who are the ones who we need to keep out because they'll ruin our reputation. Sub Rosa fucked around with this message at 15:35 on May 21, 2015 |
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Are there still jurisdictions that bar Communists from joining?
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# ¿ May 30, 2015 08:57 |
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That should be enough to get you to the next Grand Lodge which will reverse the previous Grand Lodge, right? At least that is how I'm used to Grand Lodge politics happening. I mean it sounds like it has to be some personal petty bullshit that won't survive someone's term ending.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 16:23 |
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AllPraiseToAllah posted:I've been trying to talk my wife into letting me petition but she's convinced you guys worship the devil/would try to murder me If I ever wanted out.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2015 09:17 |
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Keetron posted:Quiet indeed but I have a question that could get some more information rolling. I'd jump at the chance to join SRIA. Disclaimer that I'm not actually part of any appendant bodies. Here are the classic Rosicrucian documents from the early 1600s that inspired all later groups. http://hermetic.com/norton/pdf/Rosicrucian.pdf
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2015 09:54 |
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Keetron posted:I checked out wikipedia and it is claimed one should be a Christian which I am definitely not. I'll discuss this at the next time I meet this brother how it is looked upon over here. I guess that makes sense as Rosicrucianism is very heavily Christian flavored mysticism, unsurprising being that its inspiration is from Europe circa 1600s, but still unfortunate.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2015 11:22 |
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Delivery McGee posted:Though I suppose you'd want to know about the applicant's past, but do you ask to see old school yearbooks? Basically it would take a young and progressive lodge in which the interview committee itself is cool with it, doesn't tell the main lodge before the vote, and possibly even colludes to help make sure bits of the preparation of the candidate for the ritual goes off smoothly.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 18:17 |
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The letter dude wrote is awesome: http://www.freemasonsfordummies.com/TennesseeGayMarriageCharges.pdf
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 23:03 |
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Gorgeous work.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 16:31 |
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COOL CORN posted:If anyone is ever in central North Carolina, you're welcome to come visit it Hmm, yeah, maybe I should show up again
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2016 09:13 |
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patentmagus posted:I think it is outright un-masonic to disassociate from brothers with whom we previously harmonized
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2016 08:15 |
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patentmagus posted:One side expels [good upstanding masons], the other side expels [grand lodges violating our ancient precepts]. Hey, seems pretty obvious that it's a false equivocation to call these both wrong or equal harms or whatever. That actions have consequences is a law of man and nature, the understanding of which is a cornerstone of living a moral life.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2016 18:16 |
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I had a coded book after every degree in Alaska, coded. Still took personal assistance because you need help learning it even well enough to read the thing.
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Sub Rosa fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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Sub Rosa fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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Sub Rosa fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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