Budzilla posted:

This should have been posted in the OP. PNAC redrawing of the ME.

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Adghanistan, Somalia, Columbia, Cambodia (basically)

But yeah I hate those super distorted maps.

Peanut President posted:

It took me a minute to figure out this map was upside down. South is up.

Phlegmish posted:

That's not too bad except for Southern Africa being a separate continent for some reason. When was it made?

twoday posted:

It seems like these Ibadi guys really have this geography thing figured out. How is being the only state in the middle east where borders and religious demographics match working out for them?

kalstrams posted:

It is very weird despite the fact that Qur'an does not condemn dogs on it's own.

sparatuvs posted:

I found this lovely map of ISIL's planned conquests.

Deltasquid posted:

But would it be possible for a radical backwards movement like ISIL to gently caress that up?

Disco Infiva posted:

Love Saudi Britannia and United Baltic Emirates.

Koesj posted:

IIRC the United Arab Emirates ended 140 as a limit on a *very* select number of roads, but maybe there's some left deep in the desert

The Netherlands is a patchwork of differentiated freeway speed limits these days: 130kmh, 120, "100 from 6 to 19h", 100 with section control, 80, variable based on overhead signs - all within the same medium distance trip.

Koesj posted:

Works that way in many countries I guess. Also, someone I know was snapped by two consecutive cameras in Sharjah and fined based on calculated average speed, but nowhere does it say you can get hit by it IIRC (this is what we call section control here in the Netherlands).

PittTheElder posted:

I've never understood why people feel upset if they aren't warned that speed limits will be enforced on a particular section of road.

Not trying to pick on you in particular btw, your post was just the most quote-worthy.

Hogge Wild posted:

Vorpal Cat posted:

So is this counting Ibadi as Sunni?

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

I wonder why the UAE is so much more expensive than the rest of the Arabian peninsula.

Pakled posted:

What year is this data for? I'm guessing it's not 2015 because who the gently caress would be moving to Yemen.

icantfindaname posted:

pre-latin iberia had some celts, but also basques and other weird non-indo-euros who no longer exist



so yeah i guess portugal was celtic, but celtiberians were different than french celts

Tree Goat posted:

it's also called "herring in a fur coat" and is covered in mayo and beets and whatnot.

it's bland and has too much mayo in it, but that's a general failing in the russian moral character, nothing to be done about it

icantfindaname posted:

Some sort of linguistic/dialect map probably

Grevling posted:

What a disappointing map.

The words for tank (apart from "tank") in Norwegian, Swedish and Greek mean chariot, and the Icelandic means crawl-dragon. They could have made it so much more interesting, why would anyone make such a bad map?

The Arabic dabbaba is also interesting, it was originally used for a kind of siege equipment which was used to shield sappers from enemy missiles.

Count Roland posted:

Because of the war I can recognize Syria now. Egypt I can do.

But gently caress look at this:

Golbez posted:

* I think some here thought Arabia and North Africa were the same country, but I don't think so - the flag is centered on North Africa. That's one country, and Arabia is a separate one, except for Yemen which is part of North Africa. I think that's how

Saladman posted:

To some extent, but Tunisian Arabic isn't really any closer to Egyptian than it is to Lebanese.



Plus can't you connect a chain of mutual intelligibility through basically any set of dialects? Minus a few that have solidified in more recent years due to borders and state pressure (maybe e.g. Scandinavian and Balkan languages?).

For the Arabic map, it's hard to say how much of that map is realistic and encountered daily, and how much is a dialect color spoken by 6 people on an oasis somewhere while 99% of the people on the ground have converged to some standard regional dialect. My wife is kind of an interesting case anecdote for that as she grew up speaking Magrebi Arabic but did not have any schooling in standard classical Arabic, nor much exposure to Egyptian or Lebanese media, so while she could get around more or less just fine in Morocco, in Jordan and Egypt she couldn't understand anything nor make herself understood, akin to an American with 4 years of high school Spanish trying to get around Mexico with the 6 words they remember but mostly having to use charades. She learned Egyptian Arabic super fast though after moving there but did require a lot of courses and active effort -- it wasn't passive like moving to Australia and "learning" the Australian.

Maltese Arabic is totally ncomprehensible to a speaker of other Arabic dialects**, but not sure about Yemeni/Chadian/Mauritanian/etc. I don't know how true those colors "really" are, but at least the North African blue and the Egyptian/Mediterranean Arabic correspond to personal experience except for "Badawi" spoken on the coast of Egypt; never ever heard anything other than standard Egyptian Arabic in Hurghada or wherever. Also the "Nubi" stretching into Egypt is weird, as that colored part of Egypt is literally 100% uninhabited except for Abu Simbel, where literally everyone speaks Egyptian Arabic. I guess that coloration maybe made sense before Lake Nasser filled up.


**Apparently '40%' from a 2017 research paper, but that seems... high. Maybe 40% of words are comprehensible on their own if said one by one slowly.

my dad posted:

IIRC, the first concept to resemble white supremacist racial theories was actually the result of Arabic scholars twisting themselves into pretzels to morally justify slavery, and it was less of a "these guys (Arabs) good" and more of a "those guys (Black Africans, Slavs, etc) bad". The concept was, like a shitton of other European scholarship, learned from them and combined with local ideas like the Spanish aristocracy's love of paleness to form what would eventually become the racial caste system.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

There was a slave trade that europeans exacerbated

There was not cannibal tribes

PawParole posted:

Islam does not descend from Nestorianism. The other connections and relationships are equally vacuous. Twelvers, Zaidis and Ismailis are kinds of Shia, not descendant theological groups from the Shia. Sufism is not a branch of Sunnism, it's a practice within Sunnism. The Ahmaddiya movement claims that the Mahdi returned in the 19th century and follow his teachings, I wouldn't put them as either descendants or subsets of mainstream Sunnism.